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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
February 05 2014 01:09 GMT
#1961
NoFe retires.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Enken
Profile Joined October 2013
France156 Posts
February 05 2014 01:15 GMT
#1962
Ty Based Chexx for the info :D





the roster change from najin sounds a bit curious from my perspective :s
kiTTz
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland39 Posts
February 05 2014 01:22 GMT
#1963
whats up with Expession?
Polish League of Legends Community worker
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 05 2014 01:39 GMT
#1964
MegaZero joins TSM as Top lane sub. I approve of TSM branching out I'm terms of subs.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 01:49:32
February 05 2014 01:48 GMT
#1965
it's weird that NoFe would retire for reasons other than Military service, he's a stronger jungler than any of the jungles left on Najin

then again maybe I overrate him based on his winter performance, his side of the bracket was quite weak
Carrilord has arrived.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 02:46:42
February 05 2014 02:22 GMT
#1966
I'm surprised they recruited Helios o:
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 05 2014 03:19 GMT
#1967

coL picks up the Skyline (aka Dadslammers) roster. SupportDad is Evaniskus.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
February 05 2014 07:17 GMT
#1968
On February 05 2014 06:53 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 02:59 bokchoi wrote:
There is also a rumor that KaKAO may have been moved back to KT A as the jungler, inSec back to jungler for KT B, and Leopard being starting top solo for KT B. These rumors are based on a picture posted by KT Rolster's head coach posting a picture on his FB with KaKAO in a KT A uniform (black jacket) vs KT B uniform (navy jacket). If true, poor KaKAO gets screwed over by management again...

Also ActScene appears to have joined NaJin (changed his id to NaJin ActScene) with Winged subbing for watch in Sword, its safe to assume ActScene is being brought into replace/sub NoFe.

Eh, KTA is better than being stuck in NLB would generally merit.


No doubt. KT A has talent and should've been in champs last season, but its not like KaKAO is the problem in Bullets, so why is KaKAO the one being "punished."

Totally didn't see that NaJin complete restructure coming, guess I was wrong about ActScene going to Shield. Kind of weird that watch is going to Shield.

On February 05 2014 10:22 kiTTz wrote:
whats up with Expession?


According to the official release he's on break for 1 season due to sickness. So I'm assuming he's still a NaJin player just resting.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 07:26:27
February 05 2014 07:25 GMT
#1969
On February 05 2014 16:17 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 06:53 Gahlo wrote:
On February 05 2014 02:59 bokchoi wrote:
There is also a rumor that KaKAO may have been moved back to KT A as the jungler, inSec back to jungler for KT B, and Leopard being starting top solo for KT B. These rumors are based on a picture posted by KT Rolster's head coach posting a picture on his FB with KaKAO in a KT A uniform (black jacket) vs KT B uniform (navy jacket). If true, poor KaKAO gets screwed over by management again...

Also ActScene appears to have joined NaJin (changed his id to NaJin ActScene) with Winged subbing for watch in Sword, its safe to assume ActScene is being brought into replace/sub NoFe.

Eh, KTA is better than being stuck in NLB would generally merit.


No doubt. KT A has talent and should've been in champs last season, but its not like KaKAO is the problem in Bullets, so why is KaKAO the one being "punished."

Because having Insec out of position is detrimental to both teams. It forces KTB to have top be nothing special and KTA to have a weaker jungle. Insec top was an experiment that just hasn't worked out.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
February 05 2014 07:40 GMT
#1970
On February 05 2014 16:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 16:17 bokchoi wrote:
On February 05 2014 06:53 Gahlo wrote:
On February 05 2014 02:59 bokchoi wrote:
There is also a rumor that KaKAO may have been moved back to KT A as the jungler, inSec back to jungler for KT B, and Leopard being starting top solo for KT B. These rumors are based on a picture posted by KT Rolster's head coach posting a picture on his FB with KaKAO in a KT A uniform (black jacket) vs KT B uniform (navy jacket). If true, poor KaKAO gets screwed over by management again...

Also ActScene appears to have joined NaJin (changed his id to NaJin ActScene) with Winged subbing for watch in Sword, its safe to assume ActScene is being brought into replace/sub NoFe.

Eh, KTA is better than being stuck in NLB would generally merit.


No doubt. KT A has talent and should've been in champs last season, but its not like KaKAO is the problem in Bullets, so why is KaKAO the one being "punished."

Because having Insec out of position is detrimental to both teams. It forces KTB to have top be nothing special and KTA to have a weaker jungle. Insec top was an experiment that just hasn't worked out.


Which is fine, but I would argue as a complete-package jungler KaKAO is superior to inSec. inSec got away with a lot of things based purely on his mechanics. It seems like his overall map sense is lacking and his decision making goes from poor to horrendous when he tilts. He was also caught out a lot, but used his mechanics to cover it until his mechanics alone could no longer save him (see MVP Ozone vs KT Bullets OGN Spring 2013).

KaKAO on the other hand seems to have great map sense and applies a great deal of pressure on the map. He is seemingly always in the right place at the right time to counter-gank, or setup a gank for a kill. KaKAO is also very unselfish and plays for the team. KaKAO might not have inSec's mechanics, but his mechanics aren't bad either. Also, KaKAO has always been credited as being a great mood-maker, because hes such a bubbly personality.

KT could've just move inSec to KT A and allow him to be this superstar/face of the Arrows team, while keeping together their championship contender line-up of Bullets. As you alluded to, Leopard can easily fill in for inSec in the top-lane and have the same, if not more, impact on the game.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 05 2014 10:36 GMT
#1971
I completely understand why KT is doing these moves and if I try to be objective I'd say it's the right move if your goal is to build up two strong teams. But then again I'm soo sad that Kakao might get screwed here, I loved to see him play with the Bullets at the top of Korea where he belongs.
Enken
Profile Joined October 2013
France156 Posts
February 06 2014 02:53 GMT
#1972
Ty to chexx :D


I hope blaze gonna play with baeme sometimes i'm pretty curious on his level and the level of ambition is pretty meh :<
can't wait to see the the frost roster in action :o
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
February 06 2014 04:15 GMT
#1973
On February 06 2014 11:53 Enken wrote:
Ty to chexx :D
https://twitter.com/TL_Chexx/status/431256331354263552

I hope blaze gonna play with baeme sometimes i'm pretty curious on his level and the level of ambition is pretty meh :<
can't wait to see the the frost roster in action :o


it doesn't even list baeme as a sub? o:
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
February 06 2014 04:51 GMT
#1974
On February 06 2014 11:53 Enken wrote:
Ty to chexx :D
https://twitter.com/TL_Chexx/status/431256331354263552

I hope blaze gonna play with baeme sometimes i'm pretty curious on his level and the level of ambition is pretty meh :<
can't wait to see the the frost roster in action :o


everyone seems to say that, and seems to think that baeme is levels ahead of ambition because he was challenger, but if he was so good im sure he would've superseded ambition as starting mid, or at least played a game, even cpt jack played a game for blaze last season...
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 05:53:54
February 06 2014 05:49 GMT
#1975
even on soloq baeme wasn't significantly higher ranked than ambition, who had at one point like 4 challenger accounts including a top 2

ambition only looks bad against faker/ryu. he destroyed cool in wcg and is generally reliable. maybe that natural distribution of midlane talent has ambition as a once a year talent and faker etc as 1 in 10 years.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Enken
Profile Joined October 2013
France156 Posts
February 06 2014 11:43 GMT
#1976
On February 06 2014 13:51 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 11:53 Enken wrote:
Ty to chexx :D
https://twitter.com/TL_Chexx/status/431256331354263552

I hope blaze gonna play with baeme sometimes i'm pretty curious on his level and the level of ambition is pretty meh :<
can't wait to see the the frost roster in action :o


everyone seems to say that, and seems to think that baeme is levels ahead of ambition because he was challenger, but if he was so good im sure he would've superseded ambition as starting mid, or at least played a game, even cpt jack played a game for blaze last season...

I'm curious on his level because i heard some hype around him but these days the hype for all the soloQ stars i just get it yet .

Ppl tend to hype to much imo the soloQ " mecanics " ; the S3 was the season of the rookie with Faker, Bengi, Piglet in Korea and C9 in NA.
so the players from soloQ are too much hype imo, that's why i'm curious to see their " real " level before to agree or disagree.




Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 06 2014 12:17 GMT
#1977
You forgot LD in EU.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
February 06 2014 20:58 GMT
#1978
On February 06 2014 20:43 Enken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 13:51 bokchoi wrote:
On February 06 2014 11:53 Enken wrote:
Ty to chexx :D
https://twitter.com/TL_Chexx/status/431256331354263552

I hope blaze gonna play with baeme sometimes i'm pretty curious on his level and the level of ambition is pretty meh :<
can't wait to see the the frost roster in action :o


everyone seems to say that, and seems to think that baeme is levels ahead of ambition because he was challenger, but if he was so good im sure he would've superseded ambition as starting mid, or at least played a game, even cpt jack played a game for blaze last season...

I'm curious on his level because i heard some hype around him but these days the hype for all the soloQ stars i just get it yet .

Ppl tend to hype to much imo the soloQ " mecanics " ; the S3 was the season of the rookie with Faker, Bengi, Piglet in Korea and C9 in NA.
so the players from soloQ are too much hype imo, that's why i'm curious to see their " real " level before to agree or disagree.






funny thing about that is ambition even during his post-dade induced comatose self was doing well in korean soloQ. he ended last season with 3 accounts in challenger.
Enken
Profile Joined October 2013
France156 Posts
February 06 2014 21:25 GMT
#1979
Yup but the no hype for him because he's pretty well known already, for the hype it seems ppl need the " unknown " factor, it's like a secret power or a hidden card xD.
just look how MaRin have been hype ; from the ppl, monte etc.. he was pretty hype and now i don't think he really deserve this hype, he look ok but not incredible.
that's why i'm curious about the hype of the soloq mecanics xD
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 00:33:45
February 07 2014 00:31 GMT
#1980
some of the soloq guys have a lot of fans and/or are streamers, or famous from other games before playing lol. so they have some reputation before going into the pros. guys like apdo especially since his plays are so flashy at times.


anyway seems like the rumor is that icebear will be stepping in for mandu. if that happens then the new skt lineup would be 4 out of 5 guys from the amateur team that had faker/bengi/piglet/icebear and ssumday
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