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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 21 2014 19:41 GMT
#5021
nintendude is the only one i'd see as a major weakness on that team.
liftlift > tsm
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:10:37
October 21 2014 20:09 GMT
#5022
I for one am excited to see the Dude rise again.

Only thing I would change on that roster is to swap out Gleeb for someone like Sheep or Daydreamin. No guarantee Gleeb won't crack under the pressure again.
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orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
October 21 2014 20:09 GMT
#5023
On October 22 2014 04:40 Fusilero wrote:

Update on said roster new alex penn on his Richard Lewis shit sources state maknoon/nintendude/nien/gleeb with bee sin subbing in. Afaik bee sin is a top laner so maknoon mid the dream?

Who the fuck is bee sin? I thought he was just some random guy on twitter.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
October 21 2014 20:10 GMT
#5024
Maknoon mid ? Huuuh, not sure 'bout that one...
Dig putting Kiwi back to top as well uhhhhhhh not sure again... This team is seriously changing. Scarra staying as a coach seem a bit unsure as well, he's still streaming from the gaming house though.

I guess we need to wait a bit more to see how this turns out.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 21 2014 20:11 GMT
#5025
On October 22 2014 05:10 -Zoda- wrote:
Maknoon mid ? Huuuh, not sure 'bout that one...
Dig putting Kiwi back to top as well uhhhhhhh not sure again... This team is seriously changing. Scarra staying as a coach seem a bit unsure as well, he's still streaming from the gaming house though.

I guess we need to wait a bit more to see how this turns out.


Scarra's already confirmed to be out.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:11:33
October 21 2014 20:11 GMT
#5026
On October 22 2014 05:09 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 04:40 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/alexpenn/status/524645347533275136
Update on said roster new alex penn on his Richard Lewis shit sources state maknoon/nintendude/nien/gleeb with bee sin subbing in. Afaik bee sin is a top laner so maknoon mid the dream?

Who the fuck is bee sin? I thought he was just some random guy on twitter.

Bee Sin is a challenger top laner, played on some random challenger teams. Most notably team gyrations with nintendude/yusui and keithmcbrief
Glorious SEA doto
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
October 21 2014 20:11 GMT
#5027
On October 22 2014 05:10 -Zoda- wrote:
Maknoon mid ? Huuuh, not sure 'bout that one...
Dig putting Kiwi back to top as well uhhhhhhh not sure again... This team is seriously changing. Scarra staying as a coach seem a bit unsure as well, he's still streaming from the gaming house though.

I guess we need to wait a bit more to see how this turns out.

Doesn't they need to keep 3 player from last split for 3/5 rule?
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
October 21 2014 20:12 GMT
#5028
On October 22 2014 05:09 BrownBear wrote:
I for one am excited to see the Dude rise again.

Only thing I would change on that roster is to swap out Gleeb for someone like Sheep or Daydreamin. No guarantee Gleeb won't crack under the pressure again.


It's not TSM and it's not CLG for Nien.
They won't crack under pressure, because Maknoon/Dude will draw ALL PRESSURE.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:16:29
October 21 2014 20:13 GMT
#5029
On October 22 2014 05:11 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 05:10 -Zoda- wrote:
Maknoon mid ? Huuuh, not sure 'bout that one...
Dig putting Kiwi back to top as well uhhhhhhh not sure again... This team is seriously changing. Scarra staying as a coach seem a bit unsure as well, he's still streaming from the gaming house though.

I guess we need to wait a bit more to see how this turns out.

Doesn't they need to keep 3 player from last split for 3/5 rule?


AFAIK 3/5 rule only exists for promoted teams, not for teams that retain their spot.

If it does apply though, gets interesting as it means Zion wanted out of Dig, rather than being cut. Shiphtur possibly confirmed to be team cancer?

On October 22 2014 05:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 05:09 BrownBear wrote:
I for one am excited to see the Dude rise again.

Only thing I would change on that roster is to swap out Gleeb for someone like Sheep or Daydreamin. No guarantee Gleeb won't crack under the pressure again.


It's not TSM and it's not CLG for Nien.
They won't crack under pressure, because Maknoon/Dude will draw ALL PRESSURE.


Perhaps, but I'd still think Nien/Gleeb possibly weaker than Maknoon/Dude. Nien hasn't played ADC competitively in a while, and we've seen Gleeb's struggles in LCS already.

OFC, entirely possible Maknoon goes full Maknoon and Dude breaks Kiwi's death record.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 21 2014 20:16 GMT
#5030
On October 22 2014 05:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 05:09 BrownBear wrote:
I for one am excited to see the Dude rise again.

Only thing I would change on that roster is to swap out Gleeb for someone like Sheep or Daydreamin. No guarantee Gleeb won't crack under the pressure again.


It's not TSM and it's not CLG for Nien.
They won't crack under pressure, because Maknoon/Dude will draw ALL PRESSURE.

Not to mention Gleeb, with hindsight, has learned how to deal with the situation.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:19:17
October 21 2014 20:17 GMT
#5031
On October 22 2014 05:13 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 05:11 orzeu wrote:
On October 22 2014 05:10 -Zoda- wrote:
Maknoon mid ? Huuuh, not sure 'bout that one...
Dig putting Kiwi back to top as well uhhhhhhh not sure again... This team is seriously changing. Scarra staying as a coach seem a bit unsure as well, he's still streaming from the gaming house though.

I guess we need to wait a bit more to see how this turns out.

Doesn't they need to keep 3 player from last split for 3/5 rule?


AFAIK 3/5 rule only exists for promoted teams, not for teams that retain their spot.

If it does apply though, gets interesting as it means Zion wanted out of Dig, rather than being cut. Shiphtur possibly confirmed to be team cancer?

People were spamming on twitter that 3/5 rule is for LCS also. Not sure tho.
Also Comely is no longer with Dig: http://ask.fm/ComelyCast

http://www.dailydot.com/esports/santorin-team-coast-team-solomid/
TSM Santorin?
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 21 2014 20:19 GMT
#5032
Dig cleaning house - wonder how Kiwi escaped the massacre.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 21:24:22
October 21 2014 20:21 GMT
#5033
On October 22 2014 05:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 05:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 22 2014 05:09 BrownBear wrote:
I for one am excited to see the Dude rise again.

Only thing I would change on that roster is to swap out Gleeb for someone like Sheep or Daydreamin. No guarantee Gleeb won't crack under the pressure again.


It's not TSM and it's not CLG for Nien.
They won't crack under pressure, because Maknoon/Dude will draw ALL PRESSURE.

Not to mention Gleeb, with hindsight, has learned how to deal with the situation.


People just tend to overflame Gleeb for everything which happened in TSM, it's not like Lustboy fixed every problem of that team, Dyrus suddenly stopped randomly being useless and Amazing expanded his champion pool, if anything it was Bjergsen stepping up huge in comparison to stint with Gleeb, which changed everything for TSM. It's not like Gleeb was projected to be top-3 on his position anyway.

Gleeb was completely okay playing with Altec in C9T, Nien and Altec have pretty same playstyles if nothing changed, so i'd assume that they're going to be okay.

On October 22 2014 05:19 BrownBear wrote:
Dig cleaning house - wonder how Kiwi escaped the massacre.


Kiwikid was best player on this team with Zion, it's just a crime that they're moving him back toplane instead of using him with random Freeze.

On October 22 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
Richard Lewis said it, TSM.Santorin is basically confirmed. Idk about this but TSM isn't exactly big on options


So, Santorin is denied to go 0-X in relegations, salt.
Only hope is H2K quadra now.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 21 2014 20:21 GMT
#5034
Richard Lewis said it, TSM.Santorin is basically confirmed. Idk about this but TSM isn't exactly big on options
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:32:00
October 21 2014 20:26 GMT
#5035
On October 22 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
Richard Lewis said it, TSM.Santorin is basically confirmed. Idk about this but TSM isn't exactly big on options

ewww, i rather have Oddone back.


right in the feels.
liftlift > tsm
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
October 21 2014 21:09 GMT
#5036
Damn just woke up and dignitas imploded
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
October 21 2014 21:15 GMT
#5037
On October 22 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
Richard Lewis said it, TSM.Santorin is basically confirmed. Idk about this but TSM isn't exactly big on options


Despite EG Helios seemingly being a fantastic fit for TSM, there has been absolutely no talk or rumors of even a tryout. I don't get it. He seems like a slam dunk pick for them, because he can do some shot calling as well.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 21 2014 21:19 GMT
#5038
On October 22 2014 05:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 05:16 Gahlo wrote:
On October 22 2014 05:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 22 2014 05:09 BrownBear wrote:
I for one am excited to see the Dude rise again.

Only thing I would change on that roster is to swap out Gleeb for someone like Sheep or Daydreamin. No guarantee Gleeb won't crack under the pressure again.


It's not TSM and it's not CLG for Nien.
They won't crack under pressure, because Maknoon/Dude will draw ALL PRESSURE.

Not to mention Gleeb, with hindsight, has learned how to deal with the situation.


People just tend to overflame Gleeb for everything which happened in TSM, it's not like Lustboy fixed every problem of that team, Dyrus suddenly stopped randomly being useless and Amazing expanded his champion pool, if anything it was Bjergsen stepping up huge in comparison to stint with Gleeb, which changed everything for TSM. It's not like Gleeb was projected to be top-3 on his position anyway.

Gleeb was completely okay playing with Altec in C9T, Nien and Altec has pretty same playstyles if nothing changed, so i'd assume that they're going to be okay.

From what I remember of Trash Talk, Gleeb was pretty outspoken about the things he didn't do correctly as part of the team out of game that made the situation worse for him and the rest of TSM. It's one thing to know you fucked up, it's another to know why and how to fix those issues.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 21 2014 21:53 GMT
#5039
On October 22 2014 06:15 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
Richard Lewis said it, TSM.Santorin is basically confirmed. Idk about this but TSM isn't exactly big on options


Despite EG Helios seemingly being a fantastic fit for TSM, there has been absolutely no talk or rumors of even a tryout. I don't get it. He seems like a slam dunk pick for them, because he can do some shot calling as well.


Possibly because EG is also an LCS team that is paying him a good salary? All the TSM Helios rumors seem mostly driven by TSM fans and their wet dreams.
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ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 22:17:09
October 21 2014 22:10 GMT
#5040
Not sure what I think about that Fusion Gaming roster. Maknoon will probably do well because Hauntzer is like the only decent NA challenger top, but the rest of the lineup I'm questioning. Nintendude is bleh, NA challenger mids are actually pretty strong right now, as are the botlanes. This thing has Quantic written all over it for me.
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