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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 20 2014 17:51 GMT
#4961
On October 21 2014 02:30 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 01:48 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/snoopeh/posts/614704815295638
Snoopeh is now a free agent


surprised EG didn't keep him as a mascot/promoter/personality. Snoopeh's like the first player a free-agent announcement would be responded with : "so?"

Snoopeh to curse as health guru, liquid getting that infrastructure rolling :>
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 18:42:01
October 20 2014 18:28 GMT
#4962
On October 21 2014 02:30 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 01:48 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/snoopeh/posts/614704815295638
Snoopeh is now a free agent


surprised EG didn't keep him as a mascot/promoter/personality. Snoopeh's like the first player a free-agent announcement would be responded with : "so?"

Would not regard him as a free-agent player but manager, coach or whatever. Also I would be surprised if he doesnt have quite advanced plans already.

Btw the Impaler/Alex team is dead, not surprised tbh.

But if you like to watch team ranked 5s, there is already a replacement - Amazing, Kerp, Nigntsniper, Morsu, Jree:
http://www.twitch.tv/NightSniperlol

Cant really believe this is a serious team, but who knows.
Off-season = best season
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 20 2014 19:25 GMT
#4963
On October 21 2014 01:00 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 00:54 Shiznick wrote:
On October 20 2014 22:38 O-ops wrote:
On October 20 2014 20:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Inb4 Zion is mid for CLG and then i'm done.

CLG.
Spirit.
Is.
Fucking.
Open.

PLEASE.
POACH.
HIM.

On less serious note, qtpie doesn't have Dignitas background either in twitter now, so that's it.


Hotshot always says that importing Korean players doesn't work unless the coaching staff can also communicate in Korean. If he isn't fielding a Korean coach or at least having a translator for Scarra I think he would be against it just on principle.

IMO, CLG doesn't have the money to import a high or top tier Korean.


CLG doesn't have TSM's moneys, but they have enough to import.

Meanwhile, Oritura Sum dream is dead.


Probably means one of KaSing/Impaler/Alex got signed to an existing LCS team. Might see an announcement about that soon!
SUNSFANNED
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 20 2014 19:40 GMT
#4964
Whoa what about Kevin. Think he'd get signed before any of those.
ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 19:49:44
October 20 2014 19:46 GMT
#4965
On October 20 2014 21:09 skykh wrote:
China importing korean talents like kakao,rookie,deft,apdo etc.. Meanwhile NA want scarra,zionspartan,thinkcard??,nintendudex,maknoon and piglet.


Koreans found out that rich NA orgs are no match for Chinese billionaires who want esports playthings
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 20 2014 19:51 GMT
#4966
On October 21 2014 04:46 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 21:09 skykh wrote:
China importing korean talents like kakao,rookie,deft,apdo etc.. Meanwhile NA want scarra,zionspartan,thinkcard??,nintendudex,maknoon and piglet.


Koreans found out that rich NA orgs are no match for Chinese billionaires who want esports playthings

Ironic how a year ago we were talking about how little money there was in Chinese esports and how Chinese players like Tabe were quitting/leaving because of it.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 19:59:58
October 20 2014 19:58 GMT
#4967
On October 21 2014 04:51 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 04:46 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
On October 20 2014 21:09 skykh wrote:
China importing korean talents like kakao,rookie,deft,apdo etc.. Meanwhile NA want scarra,zionspartan,thinkcard??,nintendudex,maknoon and piglet.


Koreans found out that rich NA orgs are no match for Chinese billionaires who want esports playthings

Ironic how a year ago we were talking about how little money there was in Chinese esports and how Chinese players like Tabe were quitting/leaving because of it.


Someone probably got salty over Newbee's championship and wanna fight it :>

On October 21 2014 04:40 Numy wrote:
Whoa what about Kevin. Think he'd get signed before any of those.


With what team, lol.
Toplane is last lane to be swapped in whole region + considering that Roccat's position got Overpow'ed, i don't think Kev1n can easily find a team, unless Youngbuck finally steps down or Gambit changes Kubon.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 20 2014 19:58 GMT
#4968
On October 21 2014 04:51 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 04:46 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
On October 20 2014 21:09 skykh wrote:
China importing korean talents like kakao,rookie,deft,apdo etc.. Meanwhile NA want scarra,zionspartan,thinkcard??,nintendudex,maknoon and piglet.


Koreans found out that rich NA orgs are no match for Chinese billionaires who want esports playthings

Ironic how a year ago we were talking about how little money there was in Chinese esports and how Chinese players like Tabe were quitting/leaving because of it.

Not really. The people we were talking about in the past were players locked into low salaries by little to no bargaining power while the Korean imports are being sought after and, due to their clout, have bargaining power + have to contend with Kespa orgs.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 20:11:44
October 20 2014 19:59 GMT
#4969
On October 21 2014 04:51 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 04:46 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
On October 20 2014 21:09 skykh wrote:
China importing korean talents like kakao,rookie,deft,apdo etc.. Meanwhile NA want scarra,zionspartan,thinkcard??,nintendudex,maknoon and piglet.


Koreans found out that rich NA orgs are no match for Chinese billionaires who want esports playthings

Ironic how a year ago we were talking about how little money there was in Chinese esports and how Chinese players like Tabe were quitting/leaving because of it.

Bizarre how often the complaints of Chinese LoL end up back at royal club...

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=forg1ven247
Forgiven has been duo queueing with nrated
Glorious SEA doto
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
October 20 2014 22:05 GMT
#4970
Am I the only one here who thinks Toyz is probably garbage? He played Orianna when she was shit-broken and abused it to a championship. I'm not discounting their championship in anyways, but he was a good player like.... 2 years ago.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 22:28:13
October 20 2014 22:26 GMT
#4971
On October 21 2014 04:51 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 04:46 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
On October 20 2014 21:09 skykh wrote:
China importing korean talents like kakao,rookie,deft,apdo etc.. Meanwhile NA want scarra,zionspartan,thinkcard??,nintendudex,maknoon and piglet.


Koreans found out that rich NA orgs are no match for Chinese billionaires who want esports playthings

Ironic how a year ago we were talking about how little money there was in Chinese esports and how Chinese players like Tabe were quitting/leaving because of it.


Just because Chinese billionaires are willing to pay big $ for famous Korean players, does not equate to them being willing to pay big $ for not so famous domestic players. The logic is little different from vintage brand worship.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 22:42:42
October 20 2014 22:42 GMT
#4972
On October 21 2014 07:05 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Am I the only one here who thinks Toyz is probably garbage? He played Orianna when she was shit-broken and abused it to a championship. I'm not discounting their championship in anyways, but he was a good player like.... 2 years ago.


ToyZ and whole TPA triple success (1st at S2 Worlds, 3rd at IPL5 and then 27-1 in GPL) is miracle which never will happen at all in 5-6 years if ever (hello, Casy).
But rating ToyZ as one of the best ever, uh, that's more than questionable, there were a lot of players who played Karthus, Anivia and Orianna for competitve level in season 2, they're saying hello here again.

If anyone, it's Mistake who should be praised as a God but not ToyZ.



LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
October 20 2014 22:56 GMT
#4973
I know it's just duoing and there's a good chance they're all just friends, but I am reading a lot into Zion duoing with Bjergsen a ton and now Dyrus all of today. There's no question to me he's high on TSM's radar.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 20 2014 23:01 GMT
#4974
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 23:09:31
October 20 2014 23:08 GMT
#4975
On October 21 2014 08:01 krndandaman wrote:
What would zion play then lol. Surely not jungler

Well, it's their only open spot, Dyrus is a better top laner, and given Dyrus' poor communication and decision making(tp for example) I'm not sure I'd want Dyrus jungling.

So unless Dyrus is planning on retiring, I don't see Zion toping on TSM.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 20 2014 23:11 GMT
#4976
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 20 2014 23:13 GMT
#4977
On October 21 2014 08:11 krndandaman wrote:
Do you see zion as a jungler then? That seems like a move only clg would make.

No, but like I said, the only way I could see him on TSM not as a jungler is if Dyrus is retiring. Zion just doesn't fit.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 20 2014 23:15 GMT
#4978
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bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
October 20 2014 23:37 GMT
#4979
Zion has been playing a lot of jungle recently (hell he changed his name to LFTTOPMIDJUNG) and I wouldn't be surprised if TSM sees him as being a better option than the Nintendudes and Thinkcards of the world. He was the shotcaller on Coast (not that that means a ton but he has some experience there) and is obviously a pretty smart player. The one concern I have is that we haven't really seen players shifting to the jungle to really know how hard it is (Hotshot and those CLG players, Crumbzz going BACK to the jungle were the two that came to mind).
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 20 2014 23:43 GMT
#4980
I would say though that his penchant for split pushing fosters communication and game sense that is beneficial for jungling, if anything.
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