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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 15 2014 13:10 GMT
#4821
On October 15 2014 21:18 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 19:30 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On October 15 2014 09:02 Fionn wrote:
Piglet was playing with a trash can who didn't even play seriously anymore. There is no reason why he couldn't dominate NA with a much better support in Xpecial. At the end of his career PoohMandu was worse than Dada777.

Someone find me that MonteNo.gif

but lmao at how Forg1ven's answer. If you think you're the better and want to say it as such, just straight up say it (like Imp used to do, pre-PR-intervention) instead of beating around the bush. Honestly, this is more passive-aggressive than what I've ever seen come out of Xpecial.

On October 15 2014 15:19 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.gamesinasia.com/japan-korea-and-china-face-off-in-a-new-league-of-legends-asian-sub-league-this-december/
New hip and fresh league that's down with the kids. It's an LNL/LSPL/NLB cross over featuring detonation FM from Japan hosted in China played on the Korean server (Idk)

If this comes to fruition it shall be glorious *A*


It's the only way he can imply he is better than later on say "what?? I never said I was better!" if it ever comes back to bite him in the ass. Forgiven was arguably the best ADC EU but he shouldn't let that get to his head since his competition was pretty shit. EU isn't particularly known for their adc's. How much of an ego do you have to have to think you are better than the adc on the team that won OGN undefeated and dominated the scene for nearly a full year?

Aside from that rant, does this mean Piglet is possibly going to be on Curse? And I thought Piglet would be the last guy to move to NA.

At least it means Forg1ven thinks he didnt get the Curse job because Piglet got it. If he is right we cant say for sure, but it seems likely.
Off-season = best season
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
October 15 2014 13:12 GMT
#4822
well that´s exactly the shit why noone wants forgiven and he got kicked from CW even when beeing the best eu adc (this and the lack of showering apparently)-


NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 15 2014 13:26 GMT
#4823
On October 15 2014 20:51 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 19:30 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On October 15 2014 09:02 Fionn wrote:
Piglet was playing with a trash can who didn't even play seriously anymore. There is no reason why he couldn't dominate NA with a much better support in Xpecial. At the end of his career PoohMandu was worse than Dada777.

Someone find me that MonteNo.gif


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l0l, wtf is the context for this?
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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 13:54:44
October 15 2014 13:54 GMT
#4824
On October 15 2014 22:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 20:51 -Zoda- wrote:
On October 15 2014 19:30 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On October 15 2014 09:02 Fionn wrote:
Piglet was playing with a trash can who didn't even play seriously anymore. There is no reason why he couldn't dominate NA with a much better support in Xpecial. At the end of his career PoohMandu was worse than Dada777.

Someone find me that MonteNo.gif


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l0l, wtf is the context for this?



Quickshot intentionally misconstruing Monte's comments on Janna as a means to direct the panel discussion.

P.S. Thanks Zoda :D
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
October 15 2014 14:33 GMT
#4825
Lol Forgiven seems really delusional to me. Who the fuck does he think he is ? Yes he showed in 1(!) split that he is a decent laner in a region not exactly known for good bot lanes. If he is as good as he thinks, he should just form a team around him and hit the 5on5 ladder. The expansion tournament is a great, fast way to get in the lcs. Do it like Lebron and build a team around you, if you really think you are as good.

Some of the other rumours seem promising. SHC with Mithy and either Amazing or Amin sounds good. Same with Nuke and Woolite for Roccat.
Still hoping for some big changes in Fnatic and SK. Fnatic needs to replace Cyanide imo and get either Amazing, Amin or Dexter. Soaz is over his peak too, but top lane seems rather weak in general. I think Peke did fine at worlds, but this team needs some fresh blood to get the motivation going. They also need a real coach/analyst. EU was still playing Kog, Xerath, Elise and shit like that and that was there biggest downfall, not the individual perfomance.

Still think that SK is hoping that Incarnation is getting unbanned and take him as mid. But their botlane also seems rather weak to me. Candy is overrated as fuck imo and Nrated is more of a strategic guy. Maybe take him as coach and get a new botlane all together. Freddy, Svenskeren, Incarnation, Forgiven and Migxa the dream or take the Fnatic botlane since Rekkles seems bff with Incarnation.

Thoughts ?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 15 2014 15:12 GMT
#4826
Migxa said in his AMA he's not particularly interested in returning even with forgiven
Glorious SEA doto
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 15:26:22
October 15 2014 15:24 GMT
#4827


I'm only midway through the VOD, but the discussion about EG-ALL-CLG-AlexGarfield-Goodgame-conglomerate was very good the caller came prepared and richard has a lot of insight. Starts around minute 50.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
October 15 2014 15:25 GMT
#4828
It's hard to imagine a botlane more prone to tilting than Forg1ven/Migxa.

I don't really think SK need drastic changes. They really seem to have a good grip on the game strategically and cutting up their botlane and mid would almost certainly destroy that. Their problem is they're too one dimensional. Bot, mid and top all like to farm safely early and hope Sven can carry them through the early game. I'd like to see them get Kerp for Jesiz to give them a carry threat and some variety in their champion pool, particularly given that (unlike most roster swaps bandied about) it doesn't require a player coming out of the competitive wilderness or being unbanned by Riot. It'd be more or less plug and play.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 15 2014 15:40 GMT
#4829
On October 15 2014 21:18 krndandaman wrote:
Aside from that rant, does this mean Piglet is possibly going to be on Curse? And I thought Piglet would be the last guy to move to NA.


Given the downsizing that's about to happen to the KR scene, it's possible Piglet couldn't find a spot on one of the KeSPA teams, and he'd rather go to NA for that job security and mad Curse dollaz than play for one of the smaller-market KR teams like Prime.

Or Liquid just offered him enough money to overcome his ego.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2014 16:27 GMT
#4830
Has there been any official statement regarding all the removal of sister teams? Is there a new rule in place or something? I can't imagine this being anything but bad for the Korean scene, I don't think there are any more big name sponsors that could/would pick up Korean teams and be willing to spend the money to make them as competitive as the big name teams.
liftlift > tsm
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 15 2014 16:46 GMT
#4831
Number of Korean pro teams will simply depend on the tournament format imo. If its a 12 team league, there will be 12 teams, simple as that. And I cant imagine a team in the premier Korean league wont find a sponsor.
Also smaller sponsors might be more willing to come forward now as they dont get choked out by 2 teams from the big guys. It will also be cheaper now as you dont have to finance 2 teams anymore to have any chance of competing.
Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
October 15 2014 16:50 GMT
#4832
On October 16 2014 00:24 ShootAnonymous wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgLXuCTD8F0

I'm only midway through the VOD, but the discussion about EG-ALL-CLG-AlexGarfield-Goodgame-conglomerate was very good the caller came prepared and richard has a lot of insight. Starts around minute 50.

He started another show recently called first blood with Nintendude as a guest. I thought it was pretty good.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2014 16:52 GMT
#4833
On October 16 2014 01:46 Redox wrote:
Number of Korean pro teams will simply depend on the tournament format imo. If its a 12 team league, there will be 12 teams, simple as that. And I cant imagine a team in the premier Korean league wont find a sponsor.
Also smaller sponsors might be more willing to come forward now as they dont get choked out by 2 teams from the big guys. It will also be cheaper now as you dont have to finance 2 teams anymore to have any chance of competing.

Difference is smaller sponsors won't have the infrastructure to set up a team to be nearly as successful. At least with the way teams are set up, the separation seems to be top 6-8 teams from the bottom 8. With the narrowing of big teams, there's going to be an even bigger separation between top 4 and the rest.
liftlift > tsm
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
October 15 2014 16:57 GMT
#4834
On October 16 2014 01:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:24 ShootAnonymous wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgLXuCTD8F0

I'm only midway through the VOD, but the discussion about EG-ALL-CLG-AlexGarfield-Goodgame-conglomerate was very good the caller came prepared and richard has a lot of insight. Starts around minute 50.

He started another show recently called first blood with Nintendude as a guest. I thought it was pretty good.


Yes and Brokenshard was also a guest. Lots of gossip and stuff but quite interesting.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 17:03:45
October 15 2014 17:01 GMT
#4835
On October 16 2014 01:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 01:46 Redox wrote:
Number of Korean pro teams will simply depend on the tournament format imo. If its a 12 team league, there will be 12 teams, simple as that. And I cant imagine a team in the premier Korean league wont find a sponsor.
Also smaller sponsors might be more willing to come forward now as they dont get choked out by 2 teams from the big guys. It will also be cheaper now as you dont have to finance 2 teams anymore to have any chance of competing.

Difference is smaller sponsors won't have the infrastructure to set up a team to be nearly as successful. At least with the way teams are set up, the separation seems to be top 6-8 teams from the bottom 8. With the narrowing of big teams, there's going to be an even bigger separation between top 4 and the rest.

Well what do you really need. A team house and 2 coaches maybe. Should be doable for almost every sponsor.

I also dont see why top teams should now be even farther away from bot teams, when both have no sister teams now. Also there should be more talent available for the small teams if the big guys have to drop players. I see only the big teams suffering from this.
It still depends very much on the format though. If it stays like before bottom teams will still get very little exposure. With some league system (which I suspect they will do) small guys will be better off.
Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 17:09:20
October 15 2014 17:02 GMT
#4836
http://www.paravine.com/2014/10/lira-moves-china-join-omgs-second-team/
Been speculated for a long time but now confirmed, lira to OMG's second squad

Apparently OMG 2's roster. Shinee/Lira/PLX/Cloud and guy's whose name is only in Chinese

Tabe is going to play for a new standpoint gaming squad featuring two Koreans

World elite academy's former bench ADC to the main squad

No buying out of promotions (Rip lomoQ)

Okay that should be the dump of insideChinaLoL for now. I don't speak Chinese so I struggle to verify these but the China Talk clique seems to vouch for this account
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2014 17:17 GMT
#4837
On October 16 2014 02:01 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 01:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 16 2014 01:46 Redox wrote:
Number of Korean pro teams will simply depend on the tournament format imo. If its a 12 team league, there will be 12 teams, simple as that. And I cant imagine a team in the premier Korean league wont find a sponsor.
Also smaller sponsors might be more willing to come forward now as they dont get choked out by 2 teams from the big guys. It will also be cheaper now as you dont have to finance 2 teams anymore to have any chance of competing.

Difference is smaller sponsors won't have the infrastructure to set up a team to be nearly as successful. At least with the way teams are set up, the separation seems to be top 6-8 teams from the bottom 8. With the narrowing of big teams, there's going to be an even bigger separation between top 4 and the rest.

Well what do you really need. A team house and 2 coaches maybe. Should be doable for almost every sponsor.

I also dont see why top teams should now be even farther away from bot teams, when both have no sister teams now. Also there should be more talent available for the small teams if the big guys have to drop players. I see only the big teams suffering from this.
It still depends very much on the format though. If it stays like before bottom teams will still get very little exposure. With some league system (which I suspect they will do) small guys will be better off.

It's not a matter of just having a team house, it's also infrastructure, the top teams all have had previous esports experience, unless the new team pickups are from previous bigsponsors in other esports, they simply won't keep up with the top teams.
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 15 2014 18:44 GMT
#4838
--- Nuked ---
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 15 2014 19:26 GMT
#4839
Meanwhile in China OMG and EDG pick up a sister team and world elite has a 3rd team that's going to try for LSPL
Glorious SEA doto
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 15 2014 19:34 GMT
#4840
OMG moved Cloud off again??! WTF ... he was the only consistent member trying to make plays in all his Worlds games.
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