[D] Pro Scene Evolution - Page 204

On September 17 2014 02:23 Fusilero wrote:

On a less tense note IEM San Jose announced to have LoL with 2 NA, 2 EU and 2 South American teams. Sadly Brazil will not be graced with the glory of their Korean overlords

On September 17 2014 08:30 LaNague wrote:
regarding wether or not that Sk guy knew how offensive and racist he was being, this is him with a local kid fan:

http://i.imgur.com/aEpCBLW.jpg





I was always very annoyed when stupid american comedies like HIMYM made fun of germans with those fake german speakers who just yell stuff very loudly, so i can see how people from an actual minority, that was abused up until like 2 decades ago, feel offended.
Not to mention that this word is specifically marked for use by racists.

On September 17 2014 09:27 Yttrasil wrote:


Just imagine this, you grow up in an extremely segregated country with very few Asians. If you know any at all they are your friends just like anyone else, you treat them well joke around, have watched some show where people speak Chinese or a random TV program in your own language where some 50 year old people are making random jokes about how Chinese people might sound when they speak, just like mmm hmmm etc might be associated with black culture or god knows something even more horrible like, sounding like a person from a part of your own country where they have a somewhat different dialect like lets say Texas. The people making the jokes grew up with no Asians at all, no movies no cultural influence, just hearing the way they speak. They make a sound "Ching Chong" on TV. The little kid hears it on TV and say it in a manner that he thinks is a bit funny to his Asian friend from time to time, they have a laugh, they joke around and life goes on.

12 something years later the same person has not studied asian american culture and its racial association, nor watched any similar instance that might have taught him that, he goes to Taiwan and tries the joke that worked when he was younger to try to be nice and friendly with a random fan, NOT treat him like a subspecies as EVERYONE seems to think. People go apeshit, and here we are now... Heck I'm 28 and I didn't know, and I think I know a lot about the world and cultures overall, more than probably 99% of the other people in Sweden! Guess I did not, I'm apparently a tad bit ignorant, but we don't really have the 2 decade+ history where it was horribad and nor did Svenskeren. So how the FUCK am I or he racist? It is extremely extremely unlikely!

On September 17 2014 08:58 Yttrasil wrote:


I'm honestly more pissed at all the extremely butthurt asian americans. I understand that it could be linked racism in some cultures, especially in the US. What I actually did not understand before this incident is that it was so closely linked. I'm 28 yo and very well traveled, have a GF with Chinese origin since 5 years, grew up in Sweden with 0 Chinese around me until the last few years and maybe 1-2 viet/thai people. The usage for Chong Ching in Sweden is from my knowledge only in the way that Chinese speak, that it sounds similar. We don't have 100 years of immigration of Asians, we don't have or have had huge racism against Asians in the last 20 something years from when they started living in Sweden.

What I seriously want to say is that, yes we might seem somewhat ignorant to the Asian Americans and similar. But then, we cannot know everything about everyone and every minority around the world and how some words might be regarded by some people. People always get offended no matter how you behave in general if you are in the wrong situation. The most ignorant people that I see on reddit is actually the people that get majorly upset because they don't know/don't understand how life is in the Nordic countries and what is regarded as racist or not here, that is to me the most upsetting part because even if Svenskeren has a bad history overall, he is not deserving of this hate train at this moment for something which from a Swedish point of view was not only not racist, it was said in a jokingly manner and not condescending as me and 99% of the other Nordic citizens would feel.

Rage all you want at me, we just don't understand any better and nor do you apparently of us, ignorance should not lead to massive hate, it should lead to everyone learning and this is not the way.