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On December 16 2011 02:24 LuckyMacro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:21 LRObot wrote:On December 16 2011 02:16 LuckyMacro wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/951_ByunJust saying dude. Not that I necessarily agree with X race being easier than race Y... You're misinformed. This thread isn't about the ability of Korean code s players, but everyone else below. He was "below" before switching  ... Idk people were mentioning dragon dde and whoever else.
Sigh...Byun was never "below" code s material. His achievements as a Terran player means nothing to the context of balance of players around the gold-master leagues.
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On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo
I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way.
If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results.
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On December 16 2011 02:28 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Problem for us terrans isnt that our race is too hard to play and we want it easier, we want other races to be harder to play.
Indeed, this sums it up pretty perfectly.
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On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results.
Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please.
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On December 16 2011 02:29 SKYFISH_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:20 aderum wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Wow your arguments are so sad. Minigun plays zerg on just about as high lvl as his protoss. The reason PRO terran can offrace and still do fine is because they are PROS, and vastly better and everybody else even in GM on everything. God, its pathetic to see Terran whining when their race have been dominating for a good 1,5 years. You can complain about balance, if you bring up good points, but simply stating "LOLOLOL Terran is SO much harder to play" is stupid. This is just what zerg did when they were slumping as worst. Its a stupid argument, each race requires a lot from the player. funny you should mention Minigun, because I clearly remember when he thought that T was OMG SO EZ AND OP and decided to stream as he laddered his smurf T account. for the first 50-ish or so games he and his chat were OLOLOLOLOL T SO EZ T+1A TO MASTERS LOOLLO (np GM back then) then Minigun started hitting up players whose macro was as good as his own and i gotta tell you, seeing 150 supply worth of MM being stimmed and 1a'd into banelings is not a pretty sight. I dont think he offraces as Terran anymore
Haha. I remember that. There's a reason he offraces as Zerg now. I don't think he wanna embarass himself anymore playing T.
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On December 16 2011 02:28 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
A lot of terrans are quitting because other 2 races are easier to play and require less practise which means less microing, less macroing, less multitasking = less stress, its same on lower leagues or on pro level.
So many pro players switched already to protoss or zerg and I know 2 more terrans from EU that will switch soon (if they didnt switch already), I checked Rainbow stream 2-3 days ago and he's protoss as well now lol, ForGG ladders half of his games as zerg so he might switch as well.
Problem for us terrans isnt that our race is too hard to play and we want it easier, we want other races to be harder to play.
I agree but on the flipside, I think you too can know that not all races can be created equal, it's simply impossible.
By example, you can look at BW - Protoss was generally considered a much easier race, but also quite a bit worse at the highest levels (with T being the best).
I think this is a design issue already ingrained in SC2, and frankly unfixable at this point. You know that too. If you make protoss and zerg balanced around the 'same level of skill' for whatever amount that is measurable, you basically destroy them because they simply have much less opportunity for such things.
If T as a race dominates, it'll become boring (I'm sure gomtvt felt the subscriber hit which is why they added Calm before the Storm). If T as a race is harder, the matchmaking system will hide it from most of the general masses and the pros will simply practice harder. I know what the better alternative is here.
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On December 16 2011 02:37 xUnSeEnx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results. Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please.
The only thing is that his opinion is not as worthless as yours is.
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On December 16 2011 02:28 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Problem for us terrans isnt that our race is too hard to play and we want it easier, we want other races to be harder to play.
nailed it
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On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results.
please dont direct this at me, open up the quotations and do note who started blabbing about 'facts' straight out of their ass.
I also dont see the funny part about my personal experience of reaching the same ladder rank as Protoss with a 1/3 of the effort I had to put in when I was playing Terran.
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On December 16 2011 02:37 xUnSeEnx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results. Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please.
well, if you ask idra how hard terran is, you'll get different answer, and the idea that pros are unbiased is ridiculous.
actually think before you ask people to leave, and maybe you wont look so stupid
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On December 16 2011 02:37 xUnSeEnx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results. Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please.
Exactly why I didn't want to get involved. You do know the definition of "anecdotal evidence," right?
It doesn't matter who it comes from, it's still "anecdotal."
An expert in the field of microbiology could say that microbes are smarter than humans, but that doesn't make it true.
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On December 16 2011 02:39 YipMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:37 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results. Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please. The only thing is that his opinion is not as worthless as yours is.
Are you going to point out that he is Terran next?
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On December 16 2011 02:39 YipMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:37 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results. Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please. The only thing is that his oppinion is not as worthless as yours is.
Except I said exactly what he said (through many more words). I just do not understand why you have to resort to discrediting me, when you know nothing about me, do not know how long I have been playing sc, (yea im not pro but still a high level player), and you obviously have "opinion" posts and not facts. Everything I stated is a fact no matter how you look at it and how much dick hurt all the protoss players are. QQ
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On December 16 2011 02:37 xUnSeEnx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results. Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please.
That is a very important point. Professional players understand the game very well, and the fact that a Terran progamer thinks that Terran is the most difficult race is something to remember.
However, and this is not a rhetorical question, would you feel the same about the issue if a Protoss progamer said that Protoss is the most difficult race to play. Now, as far I know, none have made that claim in this thread. But just as a hypothetical, if Huk comes into this thread and states: "Protoss it the most difficult race; because of the mobility of Z and T every time you move out on the map is a dive into shark infested waters" would you submit to his authority?
Beasty's comment is certainly insightful.
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On December 16 2011 02:29 SKYFISH_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:20 aderum wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Wow your arguments are so sad. Minigun plays zerg on just about as high lvl as his protoss. The reason PRO terran can offrace and still do fine is because they are PROS, and vastly better and everybody else even in GM on everything. God, its pathetic to see Terran whining when their race have been dominating for a good 1,5 years. You can complain about balance, if you bring up good points, but simply stating "LOLOLOL Terran is SO much harder to play" is stupid. This is just what zerg did when they were slumping as worst. Its a stupid argument, each race requires a lot from the player. funny you should mention Minigun, because I clearly remember when he thought that T was OMG SO EZ AND OP and decided to stream as he laddered his smurf T account. for the first 50-ish or so games he and his chat were OLOLOLOLOL T SO EZ T+1A TO MASTERS LOOLLO (np GM back then) then Minigun started hitting up players whose macro was as good as his own and i gotta tell you, seeing 150 supply worth of MM being stimmed and 1a'd into banelings is not a pretty sight. I dont think he offraces as Terran anymore
Funny how you disregard all my other points. And i wasnt even making a point about minigun being good with Terran.
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I personally still plat terran after the nerfs and am killing myself for doing it. It's really hard to keep up with Protoss production and Zerg has infestors where we have to build a Ghost Academy, and then the ghosts.
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On December 16 2011 02:42 Gelenn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:37 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results. Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please. Exactly why I didn't want to get involved. You do know the definition of "anecdotal evidence," right? It doesn't matter who it comes from, it's still "anecdotal." An expert in the field of microbiology could say that microbes are smarter than humans, but that doesn't make it true.
I find this whole "it's all anedoctal" thought rather interesting. So even if everyone (that's is not obviously biased) is saying the SAME THING it's still anedoctal? So when does it stop being anedoctal? When god comes down to earth and tell you?
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Idra has said the zerg is A LOT harder than the other races since the release too, so i dont see the point of "OMG a pro agreed that it is harder"
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On December 16 2011 02:43 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:37 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:34 Gelenn wrote:On December 16 2011 02:19 SKYFISH_ wrote:On December 16 2011 02:15 gosuMalicE wrote:On December 16 2011 02:09 xUnSeEnx wrote:On December 16 2011 02:07 gosuMalicE wrote:
Terran is in no way, shape or form harder to play then Protoss or Zerg, and the fact that every other post in this thread is a baddie who clams otherwise is quite hilarious.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. I am sorry I cannot contain the laughter and irony of this protoss posting on here. EDIT: My bad for the double post I just thought this statement was beyond hilarious and supremely mis-informed. Please explain to me how terran are switching to toss and receiving a vastly higher win rate/ etc. and toss main race and cannot win anything comparably when they race switch? Show me a toss player who off raced terran and does not lose. Take your balance whining and absurd (aka. made up on the spot) "facts" to the blizzard forums that kind of stuff isn't wanted on TL. how are those 'facts' made up when the majority of Terrans in this thread are reporting better results after switching to Toss/Zerg? i think its your ass that should be hauled to blizz's forums, kiddo I really didn't want to get involved in this shitstorm of a thread, but I just wanted to point out that anecdotal evidence does not count as "fact" and there is this little thing called "reporting bias"- you're obviously going to get way more terrans supporting the idea that their race is the hardest when asking about it on a thread that has the most interest to a player who already feels that way. If you want to actually want to establish this as a "fact," you would have to support it by taking a random sampling of zerg, terran, and protoss from the ladder, have them offrace a number of games each, and examine the results. Except a pro just posted here and agreed that Terran is alot harder than Zerg/Protoss, leave now please. That is a very important point. Professional players understand the game very well, and the fact that a Terran progamer thinks that Terran is the most difficult race is something to remember. However, and this is not a rhetorical question, would you feel the same about the issue if a Protoss progamer said that Protoss is the most difficult race to play. Now, as far I know, none have made that claim in this thread. But just as a hypothetical, if Huk comes into this thread and states: "Protoss it the most difficult race; because of the mobility of Z and T every time you move out on the map is a dive into shark infested waters" would you submit to his authority? Beasty's comment is certainly insightful.
And who are you exactly? A pro protoss? I did not think so, Huk is an amazing toss player who would not come in here complaining because he knows that terran has it the hardest (I can almost guarantee). Hero is an amazing toss player. Need I go on? But a good player would tell you that terran is the hardest to play AKA not Incontrol.
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On December 16 2011 02:45 aderum wrote:
Idra has said the zerg is A LOT harder than the other races since the release too, so i dont see the point of "OMG a pro agreed that it is harder"
Idra has said zerg is hard since roaches were 1 supply
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