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On November 21 2011 02:44 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 02:41 Eppa! wrote:On November 21 2011 02:38 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:33 chickenhawk wrote:Coming from a guy with a history of insulting people, words that translate into "I think you are lacking in mental capability" are pretty clear cut.
But please, try to insinuate that saying someone is stupid totally wasn't insulting. He said that what he did was idiot! At least in portuguese we do differ actions between people. If I do an idiot thing it does not mean I am idiot. (besides idiot is a generic insult in portuguese that everyone accepts if you did a really stupid thing) The same interview where he said MVP and Nestea were easy, and he didn't expect Nestea to advance far? So he own against MVP and Nestea twice this week and he is not allowed to sate is opinion? General consensus seems to be that it's okay because CrunCher isn't zerg. Or Korean. He said the words "but he's just an idiot." He called Nestea as a person an idiot. In Swedish the word does not hold the same weight. Especially in that context. So in Swedish, someone saying you have below average intelligence isn't that insulting. I'll keep that in mind while I call you stupid.
lmao
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On November 21 2011 02:44 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 02:41 Eppa! wrote:On November 21 2011 02:38 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:33 chickenhawk wrote:Coming from a guy with a history of insulting people, words that translate into "I think you are lacking in mental capability" are pretty clear cut.
But please, try to insinuate that saying someone is stupid totally wasn't insulting. He said that what he did was idiot! At least in portuguese we do differ actions between people. If I do an idiot thing it does not mean I am idiot. (besides idiot is a generic insult in portuguese that everyone accepts if you did a really stupid thing) The same interview where he said MVP and Nestea were easy, and he didn't expect Nestea to advance far? So he own against MVP and Nestea twice this week and he is not allowed to sate is opinion? General consensus seems to be that it's okay because CrunCher isn't zerg. Or Korean. He said the words "but he's just an idiot." He called Nestea as a person an idiot. In Swedish the word does not hold the same weight. Especially in that context. So in Swedish, someone saying you have below average intelligence isn't that insulting. I'll keep that in mind while I call you stupid.
"Det där var jävligt dumt gjort"
"That was a really fucking idiotic thing to do"
(word by word translation)
Very common, no problem in sweden. Cursing is very common yes (not much religion here). Listen to Jinro talk if nothing else 
"I thought he was doing something genius with the drones out on the map but it turned out he's an idiot" <- Totally fine if translated to swedish. I'm 100% sure Nani didn't mean to insult him as badly as you think.
@TT1 What do you have against Naniwa btw? Reading all your replies in this thread you clearly don't like him AT ALL yet "have heard stories" is the best you got?
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This is kinda getting blown out of proportion. I think it was just alot of misunderstanding/miscommunication.
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On November 21 2011 02:44 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 02:41 Eppa! wrote:On November 21 2011 02:38 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:33 chickenhawk wrote:Coming from a guy with a history of insulting people, words that translate into "I think you are lacking in mental capability" are pretty clear cut.
But please, try to insinuate that saying someone is stupid totally wasn't insulting. He said that what he did was idiot! At least in portuguese we do differ actions between people. If I do an idiot thing it does not mean I am idiot. (besides idiot is a generic insult in portuguese that everyone accepts if you did a really stupid thing) The same interview where he said MVP and Nestea were easy, and he didn't expect Nestea to advance far? So he own against MVP and Nestea twice this week and he is not allowed to sate is opinion? General consensus seems to be that it's okay because CrunCher isn't zerg. Or Korean. He said the words "but he's just an idiot." He called Nestea as a person an idiot. In Swedish the word does not hold the same weight. Especially in that context. So in Swedish, someone saying you have below average intelligence isn't that insulting. I'll keep that in mind while I call you stupid.
In Swedish it implies that Nesteas decision was idiotic when said like that and it's basically like saying it was bad over here, stop being a drama queen.
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On November 21 2011 02:44 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 02:41 Eppa! wrote:On November 21 2011 02:38 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:33 chickenhawk wrote:Coming from a guy with a history of insulting people, words that translate into "I think you are lacking in mental capability" are pretty clear cut.
But please, try to insinuate that saying someone is stupid totally wasn't insulting. He said that what he did was idiot! At least in portuguese we do differ actions between people. If I do an idiot thing it does not mean I am idiot. (besides idiot is a generic insult in portuguese that everyone accepts if you did a really stupid thing) The same interview where he said MVP and Nestea were easy, and he didn't expect Nestea to advance far? So he own against MVP and Nestea twice this week and he is not allowed to sate is opinion? General consensus seems to be that it's okay because CrunCher isn't zerg. Or Korean. He said the words "but he's just an idiot." He called Nestea as a person an idiot. In Swedish the word does not hold the same weight. Especially in that context. So in Swedish, someone saying you have below average intelligence isn't that insulting. I'll keep that in mind while I call you stupid.
If you went up to some random in the street and said he's an idiot then yeah, he might punch you in the face, most likely he wouldn't even react though but some would. In the context here I don't think anyone swedish would give a shit about being called an idiot.
Language differs.
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Switzerland2892 Posts
On November 21 2011 02:36 skyrunner wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 01:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
3. The second attempt at playing game 3
Naniwa misunderstood the admin (complete miscommunication that I personally attribute to the language barrier). The game was paused as Naniwa refused to play.
wow mlg trying to spin this. Im assuming you weren't there so you can't possibly know exactly who said what. It is clear that there was a misunderstanding but you don't know wether it was a misunderstanding from naniwas part or if it was the admin not being clear enough. MLG's version doesn't add up to what naniwa is saying.
Don't give a shit about that. Both parts don't get any shit with this, why is everybody looking for a scapegoat ?
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People need to stop overreacting. Tbh though, Nani beat him in TWO BO3s. He can do whatever the hell he wants imo :D
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On November 21 2011 02:44 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 02:41 Eppa! wrote:On November 21 2011 02:38 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:33 chickenhawk wrote:Coming from a guy with a history of insulting people, words that translate into "I think you are lacking in mental capability" are pretty clear cut.
But please, try to insinuate that saying someone is stupid totally wasn't insulting. He said that what he did was idiot! At least in portuguese we do differ actions between people. If I do an idiot thing it does not mean I am idiot. (besides idiot is a generic insult in portuguese that everyone accepts if you did a really stupid thing) The same interview where he said MVP and Nestea were easy, and he didn't expect Nestea to advance far? So he own against MVP and Nestea twice this week and he is not allowed to sate is opinion? General consensus seems to be that it's okay because CrunCher isn't zerg. Or Korean. He said the words "but he's just an idiot." He called Nestea as a person an idiot. In Swedish the word does not hold the same weight. Especially in that context. So in Swedish, someone saying you have below average intelligence isn't that insulting. I'll keep that in mind while I call you stupid.
Its funny how English-only speakers have such difficulty understanding that grammar and sentence structure is different in other languages. Listen to white-ra speak.Listen to MC. There is a reason Ukrainians talk a specific genre of english and Koreans have another.
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On November 21 2011 02:46 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 02:44 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:41 Eppa! wrote:On November 21 2011 02:38 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:33 chickenhawk wrote:Coming from a guy with a history of insulting people, words that translate into "I think you are lacking in mental capability" are pretty clear cut.
But please, try to insinuate that saying someone is stupid totally wasn't insulting. He said that what he did was idiot! At least in portuguese we do differ actions between people. If I do an idiot thing it does not mean I am idiot. (besides idiot is a generic insult in portuguese that everyone accepts if you did a really stupid thing) The same interview where he said MVP and Nestea were easy, and he didn't expect Nestea to advance far? So he own against MVP and Nestea twice this week and he is not allowed to sate is opinion? General consensus seems to be that it's okay because CrunCher isn't zerg. Or Korean. He said the words "but he's just an idiot." He called Nestea as a person an idiot. In Swedish the word does not hold the same weight. Especially in that context. So in Swedish, someone saying you have below average intelligence isn't that insulting. I'll keep that in mind while I call you stupid. In Swedish, what he said would've been interpreted as "NesTea's decision was idiotic." English is an annoying, tedious language to deal with if you didn't grow up speaking it.
Just to be clear on one point, it was his use of a phrase do descrbe the incident (the context people are talking about) that makes it very clear for swedes what he meant. The word idiot was not a good choice of wording, fool would have been better.
He sums up the whole situation with "I thought he was a genius, but...."
To say someone is an idot acually means that in swedish too  I don't know how common it is to try to use colourful laungage in everyday situations in the us/australia etc. but I have no problems finding it in books, so some english speaking people should be able to understand the concept to some degree.
Perhaps an attempt to be a bit poetic, if it ended up in poetic justice only history will show.
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On November 21 2011 02:55 Jiddra wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 02:46 Daralii wrote:On November 21 2011 02:44 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:41 Eppa! wrote:On November 21 2011 02:38 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:33 chickenhawk wrote:Coming from a guy with a history of insulting people, words that translate into "I think you are lacking in mental capability" are pretty clear cut.
But please, try to insinuate that saying someone is stupid totally wasn't insulting. He said that what he did was idiot! At least in portuguese we do differ actions between people. If I do an idiot thing it does not mean I am idiot. (besides idiot is a generic insult in portuguese that everyone accepts if you did a really stupid thing) The same interview where he said MVP and Nestea were easy, and he didn't expect Nestea to advance far? So he own against MVP and Nestea twice this week and he is not allowed to sate is opinion? General consensus seems to be that it's okay because CrunCher isn't zerg. Or Korean. He said the words "but he's just an idiot." He called Nestea as a person an idiot. In Swedish the word does not hold the same weight. Especially in that context. So in Swedish, someone saying you have below average intelligence isn't that insulting. I'll keep that in mind while I call you stupid. In Swedish, what he said would've been interpreted as "NesTea's decision was idiotic." English is an annoying, tedious language to deal with if you didn't grow up speaking it. Just to be clear on one point, it was his use of a phrase do descrbe the incident (the context people are talking about) that makes it very clear for swedes what he meant. The word idiot was not a good choice of wording, fool would have been better. He sums up the whole situation with "I thought he was a genius, but...." To say someone is an idot acually means that in swedish too I don't know how common it is to try to use colourful laungage in everyday situations in the us/australia etc. but I have no problems finding it in books, so some english speaking people should be able to understand the concept to some degree. Perhaps an attempt to be a bit poetic, if it ended up in poetic justice only history will show.
I see the same thing in English sometimes, except we use "retarded" which is probably even worse, because it actually is insulting to an entire subset of people.
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On November 21 2011 02:59 scintilliaSD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 02:55 Jiddra wrote:On November 21 2011 02:46 Daralii wrote:On November 21 2011 02:44 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:41 Eppa! wrote:On November 21 2011 02:38 RockIronrod wrote:On November 21 2011 02:33 chickenhawk wrote:Coming from a guy with a history of insulting people, words that translate into "I think you are lacking in mental capability" are pretty clear cut.
But please, try to insinuate that saying someone is stupid totally wasn't insulting. He said that what he did was idiot! At least in portuguese we do differ actions between people. If I do an idiot thing it does not mean I am idiot. (besides idiot is a generic insult in portuguese that everyone accepts if you did a really stupid thing) The same interview where he said MVP and Nestea were easy, and he didn't expect Nestea to advance far? So he own against MVP and Nestea twice this week and he is not allowed to sate is opinion? General consensus seems to be that it's okay because CrunCher isn't zerg. Or Korean. He said the words "but he's just an idiot." He called Nestea as a person an idiot. In Swedish the word does not hold the same weight. Especially in that context. So in Swedish, someone saying you have below average intelligence isn't that insulting. I'll keep that in mind while I call you stupid. In Swedish, what he said would've been interpreted as "NesTea's decision was idiotic." English is an annoying, tedious language to deal with if you didn't grow up speaking it. Just to be clear on one point, it was his use of a phrase do descrbe the incident (the context people are talking about) that makes it very clear for swedes what he meant. The word idiot was not a good choice of wording, fool would have been better. He sums up the whole situation with "I thought he was a genius, but...." To say someone is an idot acually means that in swedish too I don't know how common it is to try to use colourful laungage in everyday situations in the us/australia etc. but I have no problems finding it in books, so some english speaking people should be able to understand the concept to some degree. Perhaps an attempt to be a bit poetic, if it ended up in poetic justice only history will show. I see the same thing in English sometimes, except we use "retarded" which is probably even worse, because it actually is insulting to an entire subset of people.
It and "gay," though I think that's really just an American thing.
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On November 21 2011 00:04 rblstr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 00:03 aebriol wrote:On November 20 2011 23:56 tomatriedes wrote:On November 20 2011 23:54 empty.bottle wrote:
did he watched the replay from game 2?
if that's the case, i dont think u could consider that cheating, nestea early pool was lame anyway. It's nothing that you can't learn from the score screen anyway. That's the thing all these hysterical people are not getting. Is it allowed? If not it's cheating. And you can see building positions and scouting pattern on overlords which is important for cannon rushing. You aren't getting it. AFAIK its not cheating to watch the rep of a previous game, disqualified or not.
Does MLG allow replays to be viewed? I thought they didn't? Maybe I'm confusing with NASL or something...
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Idra calling everyone "stupid, idiot, retard, noob" and messaging straight up "FUCK YOUs" during tournament games:
--> GOTTA love the GRACKEN!!
Naniwa stating that beating Nestea & MVP wasn't as hard as he would have thought and calling an idiotic move from Nestea "idiotic":
--> KILL IT WITH FIRE!!
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Please not more of this cheating bullshit... I don't understand why people are so keen on creating a shitstorm of drama out of nothing. No harm was done, and it made the games more interesting.
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On November 21 2011 03:01 GreyMasta wrote:
Idra calling everyone "stupid, idiot, retard, noob" and messaging straight up "FUCK YOUs" during tournament games:
--> GOTTA love the GRACKEN!!
You forget him telling CrunCher to kill himself, and everyone jumping on the suicide bandwagon.
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After watching the most recent naniwa interview - they forced a restart for a silly reason after naniwa early scouted nestea's 10 pool on shakuras. That is absolutely huge. I would be furious if I was naniwa. Especially if afterwards it turns out the map isn't cross position only despite what an admin told him. They totally fucked naniwa's chances of winning the game - after not letting him go to the bathroom.
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I fucking new people would twist that shit, people are boo-ing naniwa, get a fucking grip.
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On November 21 2011 03:02 SiguR wrote:
After watching the most recent naniwa interview - they forced a restart for a silly reason after naniwa early scouted nestea's 10 pool on shakuras. That is absolutely huge. I would be furious if I was naniwa. Especially if afterwards it turns out the map isn't cross position only despite what an admin told him. They totally fucked naniwa's chances of winning the game - after not letting him go to the bathroom.
You don't understand the incident do you?
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It doesn't matter if Naniwa apologizes. He's still not going to change his attitude. Until he actually becomes a nice, fun guy, apologies mean nothing.
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So Naniwa did something almost all koreans do and gets a huge shitstorm started. Its almost like you guys feed off this shit.
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