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My signature is a bash at everyone jumping on the "Zelthcon must hack" band wagon.
Check through this thread & the other one you say multple users with different join dates and post counts all claiming to have had this bug happen to them aswell but you ignore that.
You also ignore the fact that the games where it says TIE on my profile are games that i didnt even get into and when it happend, it locks me out of ladder until i relog, meaning when it says TIE it actually messes up my SC2, you also ignore that and also look at evidence against me rather then the games in my match history such as the TIES which support me.
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nochtlez no-cht-lez aww dammit, thanks day9!!!
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On October 06 2011 10:21 Zelthcon wrote:
My signature is a bash at everyone jumping on the "Zelthcon must hack" band wagon.
Check through this thread & the other one you say multple users with different join dates and post counts all claiming to have had this bug happen to them aswell but you ignore that.
You also ignore the fact that the games where it says TIE on my profile are games that i didnt even get into and when it happend, it locks me out of ladder until i relog, meaning when it says TIE it actually messes up my SC2, you also ignore that and also look at evidence against me rather then the games in my match history such as the TIES which support me.
Why won't you stream your games against high masters to gm players, so that we all can see A. This bug demonstrated and B. to prove you do not maphack. It seems simple and effective, as you are just posting defending yourself when all the evidence stacks against you. Bugs can easily be turned to exploits, and are obviously re creatable, so there is nothing to say that you didn't do that. There is someone with your name on multiple hacking sites...
You streaming your games against good players would resolve most of the problems.
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Don't forget that your BM does not help your case whatsoever Zelthcon.
I would work on that temper personally, More GG more skill.
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On October 06 2011 06:58 kidcrash wrote:
Just google his name and you will see he is a member of various game-hacker and game-cheat forums.
Thisgamesux dotnet "#1 Free and VIP Cheat Site": no posts though. Joined this year.
Deathsoft dotcom " Game Hacks, Mods, G15 Applets, Tools & Resources": no posts either. Joined this year.
Simplexhacks dotcom, about CSS and TF2 aimbots: "The aimbot constantly crashes on me if I use certain servers and on top of that it crashes every now and then aswell.
Not sure if it is just an issue with my PC but others have expressed the same problem in this thread. "
The phrase "If you're on the EU servers then simply join channel Mixed Fruit and introduce yourself or add me Zelthcon "
The two TL threads about him.
Various replays.
Anyways, that's what I found. It's not conclusive, probably never was going to be. Not even certain it's the same Zelthcon eh? So give the guy a break.
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On October 06 2011 09:59 DeepBlu2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 08:42 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Deepblu2
Streaming would not confirm anything.
You can turn hacks on and off it's like a light switch. He'd just turn it off to stream and turn it back on after if he does hack. If he can beat high masters players, while streaming... Then that shows he most likely does not hack, as he would be high GM most likely with them.
Please refrain from posting before reading.
Hacks can be turned on and off. He could stream without using win or lose and what does that prove? Nothing.
Please be logical and think.
Aside from that, there is no guarantee he would be a high gm player considering alot of the players have stated all he does is proxy and all in. Doesn't prove anything either way hacks or not, a player who just all in every game has little to no skill solely because they need to be versatile.
So please keep thinking a stream will resolve it all when it won't.
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Is there no way that Blizzard can check this sort of thing themselves?
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On October 06 2011 10:25 BarbieHsu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 06:58 kidcrash wrote:
Just google his name and you will see he is a member of various game-hacker and game-cheat forums. Thisgamesux dotnet "#1 Free and VIP Cheat Site": no posts though. Joined this year. Deathsoft dotcom " Game Hacks, Mods, G15 Applets, Tools & Resources": no posts either. Joined this year. Simplexhacks dotcom, about CSS and TF2 aimbots: "The aimbot constantly crashes on me if I use certain servers and on top of that it crashes every now and then aswell. Not sure if it is just an issue with my PC but others have expressed the same problem in this thread. " The phrase "If you're on the EU servers then simply join channel Mixed Fruit and introduce yourself or add me Zelthcon " The two TL threads about him. Various replays. Anyways, that's what I found. It's not conclusive, probably never was going to be. Not even certain it's the same Zelthcon eh? So give the guy a break.
If it's not him, why didn't he just say so instead of completely ignoring the many posts that have asked him about those Zelthcon accounts?
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On October 06 2011 10:21 Zelthcon wrote:
My signature is a bash at everyone jumping on the "Zelthcon must hack" band wagon.
Check through this thread & the other one you say multple users with different join dates and post counts all claiming to have had this bug happen to them aswell but you ignore that.
You also ignore the fact that the games where it says TIE on my profile are games that i didnt even get into and when it happend, it locks me out of ladder until i relog, meaning when it says TIE it actually messes up my SC2, you also ignore that and also look at evidence against me rather then the games in my match history such as the TIES which support me.
So if it was games that you didn't even get into, why are the games ranging from 5 to 15 minutes played with economy and army values?
Let alone previously you stated you played the games and this error happened not you not getting into the game.
Rofl at changing stories. Please try giving another illogical and invalid story.
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On October 06 2011 10:25 BarbieHsu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 06:58 kidcrash wrote:
Just google his name and you will see he is a member of various game-hacker and game-cheat forums. Thisgamesux dotnet "#1 Free and VIP Cheat Site": no posts though. Joined this year. Deathsoft dotcom " Game Hacks, Mods, G15 Applets, Tools & Resources": no posts either. Joined this year. Simplexhacks dotcom, about CSS and TF2 aimbots: "The aimbot constantly crashes on me if I use certain servers and on top of that it crashes every now and then aswell. Not sure if it is just an issue with my PC but others have expressed the same problem in this thread. " The phrase "If you're on the EU servers then simply join channel Mixed Fruit and introduce yourself or add me Zelthcon " The two TL threads about him. Various replays. Anyways, that's what I found. It's not conclusive, probably never was going to be. Not even certain it's the same Zelthcon eh? So give the guy a break.
Not saying it's conclusive because it's definitely not. Just something to bring to attention and put in perspective along side everything else.
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Who cares? If he does hack Blizzard will ban him, if he doesn't and it is a bug, blizzard already knows its a bug and they are going to fix it.
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On October 06 2011 10:21 Zelthcon wrote:
My signature is a bash at everyone jumping on the "Zelthcon must hack" band wagon.
Check through this thread & the other one you say multple users with different join dates and post counts all claiming to have had this bug happen to them aswell but you ignore that.
You also ignore the fact that the games where it says TIE on my profile are games that i didnt even get into and when it happend, it locks me out of ladder until i relog, meaning when it says TIE it actually messes up my SC2, you also ignore that and also look at evidence against me rather then the games in my match history such as the TIES which support me.
I have not seen any evidence of a straight up game you have played. Meanwhile, a large amount is being thrown in that you are likely up to some shady business. I really hope you don't use the same name on both B.net, TL and the hack forums people are finding these posts on. It would be amazingly stupid.
I have over 1500 games of SC2 since release and I am not as active a player as I would like to be. I have one tie in my 1v1 match ups. Just one. I have never seen one an anyone's match history. You have more ties in one day than I have seen in one year.
So get those replays, but I don't think you are going to show them. I think this is going to turn out exactly how I expect, that you're a talentless scub.
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why are we giving this one random hacker so much attention?
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On October 06 2011 10:31 danson wrote:
why are we giving this one random hacker so much attention?
Because it's a boring Wednesday night at work for me.
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On October 06 2011 10:27 jellyfish wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:25 BarbieHsu wrote:On October 06 2011 06:58 kidcrash wrote:
Just google his name and you will see he is a member of various game-hacker and game-cheat forums. Thisgamesux dotnet "#1 Free and VIP Cheat Site": no posts though. Joined this year. Deathsoft dotcom " Game Hacks, Mods, G15 Applets, Tools & Resources": no posts either. Joined this year. Simplexhacks dotcom, about CSS and TF2 aimbots: "The aimbot constantly crashes on me if I use certain servers and on top of that it crashes every now and then aswell. Not sure if it is just an issue with my PC but others have expressed the same problem in this thread. " The phrase "If you're on the EU servers then simply join channel Mixed Fruit and introduce yourself or add me Zelthcon " The two TL threads about him. Various replays. Anyways, that's what I found. It's not conclusive, probably never was going to be. Not even certain it's the same Zelthcon eh? So give the guy a break. If it's not him, why didn't he just say so instead of completely ignoring the many posts that have asked him about those Zelthcon accounts?
Well, it's not conclusive in the same way like the creepy old man across the street was never convicted of molestation, but I'm not letting my nieces walk by there ever.
And why isn't he responsive? I do not know. Maybe he did join a hacking community once, but still did not hack in this case? That's kind of a lame excuse, but it's possible.
EDIT: Zelthcon, page 9:
TO clear more things up.
1) The post was made about the TL hacker database being bad ON THE BASIS that you only review ONE replay. Then a guy explained to me the situation and how replies are evaluated and I thought, Ok fair enough.
2) HackForums is NOT about game hacking, it's about many many different types of hacking, mostly crypters and booters, please feel free to read through all my posts on that forum and find any mention of me using hacks in games.
The aimbot one though, implies that he did use one. Still doesn't mean he did this one though.
EDIT again: LOL beaten to it. And http://i.imgur.com/gaS3f.png is pretty funny.
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On October 06 2011 10:34 BarbieHsu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:27 jellyfish wrote:On October 06 2011 10:25 BarbieHsu wrote:On October 06 2011 06:58 kidcrash wrote:
Just google his name and you will see he is a member of various game-hacker and game-cheat forums. Thisgamesux dotnet "#1 Free and VIP Cheat Site": no posts though. Joined this year. Deathsoft dotcom " Game Hacks, Mods, G15 Applets, Tools & Resources": no posts either. Joined this year. Simplexhacks dotcom, about CSS and TF2 aimbots: "The aimbot constantly crashes on me if I use certain servers and on top of that it crashes every now and then aswell. Not sure if it is just an issue with my PC but others have expressed the same problem in this thread. " The phrase "If you're on the EU servers then simply join channel Mixed Fruit and introduce yourself or add me Zelthcon " The two TL threads about him. Various replays. Anyways, that's what I found. It's not conclusive, probably never was going to be. Not even certain it's the same Zelthcon eh? So give the guy a break. If it's not him, why didn't he just say so instead of completely ignoring the many posts that have asked him about those Zelthcon accounts? Well, it's not conclusive in the same way like the creepy old man across the street was never convicted of molestation, but I'm not letting my nieces walk by there ever. And why isn't he responsive? I do not know. Maybe he did join a hacking community once, but still did not hack in this case? That's kind of a lame excuse, but it's possible.
Well, here is one response to that.
On October 06 2011 08:58 Zelthcon wrote:
TO clear more things up.
1) The post was made about the TL hacker database being bad ON THE BASIS that you only review ONE replay. Then a guy explained to me the situation and how replies are evaluated and I thought, Ok fair enough.
2) HackForums is NOT about game hacking, it's about many many different types of hacking, mostly crypters and booters, please feel free to read through all my posts on that forum and find any mention of me using hacks in games.
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On October 06 2011 10:26 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 09:59 DeepBlu2 wrote:On October 06 2011 08:42 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Deepblu2
Streaming would not confirm anything.
You can turn hacks on and off it's like a light switch. He'd just turn it off to stream and turn it back on after if he does hack. If he can beat high masters players, while streaming... Then that shows he most likely does not hack, as he would be high GM most likely with them. Please refrain from posting before reading. Hacks can be turned on and off. He could stream without using win or lose and what does that prove? Nothing. Please be logical and think. Aside from that, there is no guarantee he would be a high gm player considering alot of the players have stated all he does is proxy and all in. Doesn't prove anything either way hacks or not, a player who just all in every game has little to no skill solely because they need to be versatile. So please keep thinking a stream will resolve it all when it won't.
What are you talking about? If someone is CLEARLY showing you their gameplay, against an experienced player, and you can CLEARLY see there is no foul play, then how is that not proof to show that they can play without hacks and beat the same players??? I have no idea what you mean by "It can be turned off and on like a light switch"... The players who are saying all he does is proxy and allin also are stating that he hacked by knowing what position they were in, which drastically affects the outcome of the game. And I highly doubt you would see that if he streamed for several hours, that every game would be a proxy play. As opposed to showing a replay where you can't see them playing, you have no idea what they are doing besides their camera which can easily be avoided by things like the "production tab hack"... I never stated he was a high gm player. I stated that if he played without hacks and beat high masters players, then surely he would be grandmasters with the hack.
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On October 06 2011 10:48 DeepBlu2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:26 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:On October 06 2011 09:59 DeepBlu2 wrote:On October 06 2011 08:42 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Deepblu2
Streaming would not confirm anything.
You can turn hacks on and off it's like a light switch. He'd just turn it off to stream and turn it back on after if he does hack. If he can beat high masters players, while streaming... Then that shows he most likely does not hack, as he would be high GM most likely with them. Please refrain from posting before reading. Hacks can be turned on and off. He could stream without using win or lose and what does that prove? Nothing. Please be logical and think. Aside from that, there is no guarantee he would be a high gm player considering alot of the players have stated all he does is proxy and all in. Doesn't prove anything either way hacks or not, a player who just all in every game has little to no skill solely because they need to be versatile. So please keep thinking a stream will resolve it all when it won't. What are you talking about? If someone is CLEARLY showing you their gameplay, against an experienced player, and you can CLEARLY see there is no foul play, then how is that not proof to show that they can play without hacks and beat the same players??? I have no idea what you mean by "It can be turned off and on like a light switch"... The players who are saying all he does is proxy and allin also are stating that he hacked by knowing what position they were in, which drastically affects the outcome of the game. And I highly doubt you would see that if he streamed for several hours, that every game would be a proxy play. As opposed to showing a replay where you can't see them playing, you have no idea what they are doing besides their camera which can easily be avoided by things like the "production tab hack"... I never stated he was a high gm player. I stated that if he played without hacks and beat high masters players, then surely he would be grandmasters with the hack.
The "hack" is just something called a tie hack if it actually does exist. It has nothing to do with beating other players, it is about not losing points when you lose. How does that show through in his gameplay whatsoever?
If you are talking about how he allegedly proxies without scouting, that is a different story. Either way, this thread isn't about maphacking or production tab hacking it is about the other thread which accused him of tie hacking so he doesn't lose points.
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Every terran I face goes cloaked banshees into 1-1-1 allin, also you scout close air before close ground first, maybe you maphack and know where I spawned? Maybe you use a maphack of some sort? Or maybe it's part of your playstyle...
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