EPTMurph your ripped, gw. If you steal my Mora from me though you and I will go toe to toe.
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Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
Murph your ripped, gw. If you steal my Mora from me though you and I will go toe to toe. | ||
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JoeUser
United States684 Posts
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Murph
Canada591 Posts
On July 11 2005 22:07 Manifesto7 wrote: That Mephisto7's a dink. Murph your ripped, gw. If you steal my Mora from me though you and I will go toe to toe. Not to insult you or anything, but more as just to teach you so that you'll know better in the future; the term ripped, shredded, ect. correctly used simply means low bodyfat. So you could have very little muscle and be consider ripped, just people wouldn't say you were. And professional bodybuilders for example are only ripped like 2 weeks max per year. BB'ers go through cutting and bulking phases. While bulking you take in more cals than you burn, you clean bulk so you get as little empty cals ect as possible and become a dietary nazi. Anyway, you attempt to pack on as much muscle as possible while putting on as little fat as possible. By the time it is summer or competition (bodybuilding competitions have no weightlifting involved, thats powerlifting, bb'ing competitions are poses to critique your physique). That being said, cutting phase is the oposite. You burn more calories than you take in per day, and attempt to lose as little muscle as possible while trying to burn as much fat as possible. Granted I am semi-ripped in that picture (it's oldish, the end of last summer just before I started my next bulking phase) so my bodyfat is only about 8% but I am (or at least wasn't) very built. Right now you can't see my abs for example because i'm no longer ripped, still got a bit of cutting to do yet (my bf is at like 17%). But I put on a good 9 lbs or so of lean muscle over the last year just gotta burn about 10 lbs of fat and gotta get rid of a couple lbs of water retention. I didn't mean to type up such a long post just for a small correction, but in bb'ing terms what I just said is as boarderline as you can get, I could've wrote a 300 page article on it np without having to look at a resource to make sure I was saying the correct stuff. Anyway, thanks for the complement and I look forward to seeing how I look at the end of my current cut, I should look about the same in terms of bf as that picture but I will have about 9 lbs added, and I flared my lats out quite a bit this year. You can't really see any specific muscles in that picture though.. I picked it because it's a casual relaxed (non flexing) picture and I didn't want to come off as arrogant and post say front lat spread, rear lat spread, abs and thighs, most muscular, side chest, ect. Hope this was a useless read that you won't forget, Murph  | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28784 Posts
On July 11 2005 20:41 Murph wrote: I see, didn't realize that was the reason he requested that I post the whole picture(assuming it is relevent), but it doesn't really bother me what his sexual orientation is. Nice to meet you Mora, I am glad that despite being homosexual people here for the most part (according to Smurg's post) don't have a problem with you/that or poke fun at you. Good to see that you can enjoy your time here as much as anyone else, Murph oh we poke fun at him he wants us to poke him in more ways than just the fun poking way though at least some of us  | ||
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
On July 11 2005 20:38 IcedEarth wrote: btw, chicken` you are the most metal looking person on tl.net :D yeah, mr.hetfield says thank you ~ | ||
Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
I'm about 80-82kg and 185 cm tall..that's about 6'1" and 180.4 pounds. I've been running and trying to eat less, I'll keep it up and see if I start losing much...I've noticed a marked difference in my fitness though, which is good. | ||
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
Looking at your profile...Metal album covers are gosu...I like how they are fantasyish... I've noticed a few like that too. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On July 12 2005 06:24 Smurg wrote: Hey Murph, what's the best way to lose body fat quickly? I'm not sure what I'm at but I have a BMI of 23. I want to get down to about 21...I don't know much I have to lose. I'm about 80-82kg and 185 cm tall..that's about 6'1" and 180.4 pounds. I've been running and trying to eat less, I'll keep it up and see if I start losing much...I've noticed a marked difference in my fitness though, which is good. http://www.warriorforce.com/warriorfitness.html That goes over tons of body-weight exercises, and stuff. It's good because you get to cut fat without spending loads of money for a gym. | ||
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[Random]Digen
United Kingdom195 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/1618/picture0012vy.jpg) my webcam is pretty bad..and yes i know my hair is aswell EDIT: i forgot info...im 17 and play random (very badly aswell!!) | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On July 12 2005 07:07 SickofLife wrote: http://www.warriorforce.com/warriorfitness.html That goes over tons of body-weight exercises, and stuff. It's good because you get to cut fat without spending loads of money for a gym. Bah, you are wasting your time. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
With the book, or with linking that? | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
If you buy any of ross's shit, you are in for a tough fucking workout. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28784 Posts
actually I think you look cool | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
![[image loading]](http://static.apberget.se/images/g/4cf/4cf70f62d05b12e1f67b5e68a9bfaba7.jpg) Me at a nightclub from my visit to scottland;; I'm kooL ![[image loading]](http://static.apberget.se/images/g/f0b/f0b7d7a7339ee96eba931bead509d290.jpg) Same place, pose pic - gosu. Hope this works now... Edit: it did! Oh, and I'm 18 year old tossplayer, and kooL | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
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Murph
Canada591 Posts
On July 12 2005 06:24 Smurg wrote: Hey Murph, what's the best way to lose body fat quickly? I'm not sure what I'm at but I have a BMI of 23. I want to get down to about 21...I don't know much I have to lose. I'm about 80-82kg and 185 cm tall..that's about 6'1" and 180.4 pounds. I've been running and trying to eat less, I'll keep it up and see if I start losing much...I've noticed a marked difference in my fitness though, which is good. Thanks for the question, i'll see what I can do to help. From the sounds of it, if 6'1" 180 lbs is correct you don't really have much to worry about ratio wise, although if you have very little lean mass (no offense) than you could probably stand to lose a few pounds. Keep in mind I don't mean this post in a condescending way whatsover, so if I come across as offensive to you that is definitly not my intention. If it is possible if I were you I would try and get acess to a capiler, it measures your bodyfat. Bodyfat is more reliable than BMI, granted it works for your average person, BMI's can be very misleading if you are a muscular person. For examle, someone at 6' 240 lbs at 5% bodyfat would be considered obess by a BMI test. That being said, you're going to want to get somewhere in the 12-14 bf% range more than likely. Very healthy, and you'll have a little bit of meat on you. I don't know if its a goal or not, but if you wish to have defined abs you might want to cut down closer to about 10%, anything lower than that is unessisary unless you are a really serious bb'er which I am assuming you are not. Anyway to answer your question, the quickest way to lose fat, I try to avoid the term weight, is to burn more calories than you eat in a day. Sounds simple.. And it is. Basically what you're going to want to do is do a lot of cardio, running, biking, ect. low resistance training. If you wish to work with weights, that is entirely your choice and absolutely not nessisary for getting thin and healthy. Now this is the thing that is extremely important, it is acutally hard in most average households to eat healthy. A bodybuilders term for healthy is a total diet nazi though.. Example, rolled turkey breast with 1gram of carbs and 0 grams of fat, 17 grams of protein per 100 gram serving is acutally considered bad, why? Because it has a lot of sodium. An average guy such as yourself need'nt worry and be a total nazi, but you absolutely shouldn't treat yourself to soda, chips, ect. and if you must, try to seriously limit it to a tiny bit per week or so. Don't listen to any low-carbohydrate diet bullshit. Just look at the information on food when you get food, if it has high carbs that can be a good thing, but make sure the carbs are under starch (complex carbs) or dietary fibre (fibreous carbs) and not sugar (excluding milk, the sugar in milk is lactose, and is far from ordinary sugar). Don't totally steer away from fat, fat despite its name isn't a huge problem, the only thing with fat is for every gram of fat there is more calories than every gram of protein or carbohydrates. You need fat, so just try using common sense and not realize the fat in chips for example is bad. Also make habits, for example if you plan on eating toast, eat it unbuttered and eat it whole grain. White bread = no nutrients and empty calories. By bodybuilder terms (we eat.... a LOT, in fact 6-8 meals a day every 2 hours) 4,000 calories in one day is about max unless you weigh like 260+ lbs. 4,000 calories is about as much as you'll hit during a bulking phase as a bb'er, and trust me eating is literally hard when you are trying to eat that much... CLEAN bulking that is. Eating seems like a job and its so hard to stomach. Now dirty bulking or eating whatever you want, I could literally hit 20,000 calories in a day and feel the same way in terms of fullness. Example: one slice of pizza (less than 60 grams) could be as much as 300 calories, whereas 300 grams worth of skinless boneless chicken breast could be as little as 280 calories. The chicken of course would be much more healthy, would keep you full for much longer, ect. If you're really interested just tell me and I can post a long list, I compiled a list not long ago called "The Bodybuilders Grocery List" and pretty much EVERYTHING considered "allowed" by a bodybuilder is on it, in total there are about 100 items or so, so you could use it as a general checklist. But of course you aren't going for optimum protein/complex carbs, ect. either since you are just looking to lose weight and not add a lot of lean mass. So for the most part just be more contious of labels and try as much as you can to fill up on lower caloric food, and run ect. a little more. If after say 2 weeks nothing happens, just reduce your caloric intake even more and run a little more, give it 2 weeks, and repeat until you're losing weight. Trust me, it will happen. Sorry it's a little overly elaborate, I just trail off a little sometimes, plus I like to be very specific and as informative as possible even when asked a small question. Good luck on losing the weight bro, Murph | ||
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
 I'll need to be more conscious about how many calories I'm eating, run + tennis, squash should be decent. I'm pretty sure I'll want to develop my muscles at the same time, because if I'm burning a lot away I assume I'll also be burning away muscle. Sure, if you have any IM programs too I can talk to you. cyphmills@gmail.com = MSN Cyphermills = AIM Cyphermills = Yahoo 126481632 = ICQ But yeah, feel free to PM your list of 'acceptable' foods. It'd be much appreciated...again thanks for all the time you put into your answer. I read it carefully.And your last sentence...remember..it's losing fat not weight.  Hehe. | ||
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Murph
Canada591 Posts
On July 12 2005 10:53 Smurg wrote: Wow, thanks a shit load man. I'll need to be more conscious about how many calories I'm eating, run + tennis, squash should be decent. I'm pretty sure I'll want to develop my muscles at the same time, because if I'm burning a lot away I assume I'll also be burning away muscle. Sure, if you have any IM programs too I can talk to you. cyphmills@gmail.com = MSN Cyphermills = AIM Cyphermills = Yahoo 126481632 = ICQ But yeah, feel free to PM your list of 'acceptable' foods. It'd be much appreciated...again thanks for all the time you put into your answer. I read it carefully.And your last sentence...remember..it's losing fat not weight. Hehe.Don't mention it. Yeah, you will unforunatly lose some muscle mass while cutting, it is inevitable. Out of curiousity, have you been lifting weights for a while? Or did you use to do it consistantly for a while? If not I wouldn't worry about trying to build muscle while cutting because lifting is only really for maintaining as much as you can while cutting, and well no offense but if you don't really have much to retain in the first place it will be a little redundant. I will however say that if you wish you could cut down until you reach a bf that you're pleased with, then start a bulking phase and start lifting iron then. Although I will warn you straight up right now, bodybuilding is only healthy to an extent. After so long you will lose most of your endurance and stanima. Also, contrary to popular belief professional bodybuilders look like the epitome of health and fitness, however that couldn't be any more untrue. IFBB professional bodybuilders such as Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson, Markus Ruhl, ect, ect, ect. are all quite unhealthy. Also know that bodybuilding doesn't focus on strength entirely (see powerlifting) it focusus on getting a chisled muscular physique. If you are just interested in being healthy, agile, strong ect. you could do other types of training than absolute low rep high weight. Another warning, if you're interested in bodybuilding, no not buy a total gym, boflex, or anything else like that. Free weights first. There is little you can't do with dumbells and barbells, ie: leg presses which requires equipment. But anything that is body resistance such as boflex is terrible for a bodybuilder. If you are interested solely in strength, go the powerlifting route. You'll be eating an unbelievable amount on a daily basis and only 1rep maxing your lifts and you will focus on your bench/squat/dead numbers. That being said, you can see what route you're happier with. If you need me to I can elaborate on anything i've mentioned. Regarding IM software the only one of those I have even heard of is msn, and I don't have an account for it but if I do decide to register sometime I will notify you. I appreciate that you acutally take the time to read my posts regardless of length, I mean i'm obviously not pasting "hi"over and over. And finally you are right, you caught me, Murph | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
I would like to know if you think I am doing a good job with my body or if I should rethink my self-composed healthcare program - and alas, here are the infos: Last year I started going to a gym to build muscles. I went there constantly about 3-4 times a week for 6 months and mostly worked on my breast muscles, shoulder, triceps, biceps, back and abs. When finally my gym card had expired I was quite happy with what I had achieved as I had increased in strenght and volume - as was my goal. Just now, I have started to go back there again this summer and intend to retrive whatever strenght I have lost and further increase the volume. I had in mind to just keep going with the old excersises I did last year but I have ran into some warning words from friends of mine, also building their bodies. And even though they seem to have somewhat knowledge of things I'd rather trust some random dude over the internet from Canada ( =D! ) than them! At least for now. Is it honestly true that I could hurt my body by not excersising all areas? For example, I tend to skip most parts of the back only excersising the areas near the lower spine (don't know the muscles in english but it's basically the muscles you use when you are standing up straight ;p). Could this unequvialient treatment of the back lead to problems? And is it really that bad to skip the legs? I bicycle almost every day near 1 metric mile and even though this won't build any muscles I just want my legs to stay fit, and I already have some tissue from previous soccer training. Also, could you tell me how I can train all parts of the breast muscles instead of just the "ordinary" part I train when I do benchpress etc. I have seen other ppl do excersises that look like they are training their breasts but it's quite foreign to me and I've never really asked someone because I honestly don't know if it matters. And finally maybe you could give my whole program a quick review with any comments you feel are relevant (flaws, questions, tips): Day 1: 1. 3 excersises on breast muscles, 8-10 repetitions x 3 sets (sometimes: 2. 1 excersise for shoulders, 8-10 repetitions x3) 2. 2 excercises on triceps, 8-10 reps x 3 3. 2 excersises on biceps, 8-10 reps x 3 Day 2: 1. frontal and side abdominal regions, 8-10 x 3 on every area 2. lower spine back muscles, 8-10 reps x 3 I'm quite tall so maybe I should be more concerned about my back but I'm not sure =o Enlighten me if you think it is needed. I just strive to have an appealing apperance without looking like a monster buff and yet retaining some strenght!_! | ||
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