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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 04:31:48
September 01 2011 04:04 GMT
#241
to be fair although i don't agree with the company perseverance keeps (or kept idk w/e) I honestly doubt he'd be stupid enough to look at fog of war so blatantly / make map hacking so obvious and I wouldn't put it past the company he keeps (or kept idk w/e) to do that to him if his story is the case

all of this said though

lone is definitely hack user

edit- beastyqt sums it up nicely
hihihi
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
September 01 2011 04:14 GMT
#242
On September 01 2011 12:42 Itallion wrote:
Also why would you PM hotbid of all people. I think Probe, Toren and Arb are the people that run the TL Hack Database...



Hot_Bid is the only TL Admin I've ever really talked to/ played with (Even though it was only in the early beta of SC2) and I suppose I kind of freaked out and didn't think things through. I mean, when you are working hard to become a part of the SC2 community like I've been trying for the last couple weeks and someone does something as low as this...how do you think you would react.

One of the worst parts about it is Protech, who was my friend before this...doesn't even want to hear me out or anything. Nevermind the fact that I just played versus him YESTERDAY in a very long macro game (Which I'm sure he watched the replay multiple times since he lost) and there couldn't possibly been anything to suggest cheating (We went void rays versus mass queens ffs).
Nevermind the fact that him and Power (His main 2v2 partner) know Lone fairly well and understand that he would definately do something low like this...

I mean...It's just sad.


When you look at it from a logical point of view there are only a few explanations to my recent match history (Where he was playing)

Lets dissect the possibilities for a moment.

First possibility

I log on to SC2 on Perseverance (apparently using a hack too) Search 2v2 Random Team, a gametype I haven't even played this season....go afk at start and dont even use my workers a lose (Why would I ever do this, on my account that was 126-10 this season?)

Then, I decide to play a 1v1...another gametype I haven't ever played this season (On my Perseverance account) and again, I afk my workers to auto lose.....(What would be the point of doing this again?)

Okay, so third game, another 1v1...do some allin and lose (I'm just getting my info from the match history, since I wasn't playing I can't say exactly what happened)

Fourth game, another 1v1 allin loss (Man, I SURE am losing a LOT with these HACKS I apparently have............)

Fifth game, now apparently I am a protoss player because I am playing protoss in 1v1....Oh hey, ANOTHER loss.

Sixth game, playing 2v2 Random Team in SILVER league, and what do you know another afk worker at the start of game loss.....

Seventh game, once again "I" am playing protoss in 1v1...looking at the build order for this match I am not sure what he (Or "I") did...but it was another loss...Keep in mind all these 1v1 losses are to diamond players. That means if it was actually me playing then I am taking games off of people like Protech/FxOptikzero/ONEKyhol/AiProClan in 2v2, but losing to Diamond players in 1v1? ESPECIALLY using a hack? Really? Does this sound like something that makes any sense at all?

eighth game, playing protoss again in 1v1...it was a long game that was yet ANOTHER loss for me

ninth game, another protoss loss in 1v1.....

tenth game, a long macro game (as toss..again) that was a WIN..my assumption is this is where he started to blatantly maphack to try to get "me" exposed.

eleventh game, another toss 1v1 game, this was the one where he got me reported...so now that his mission was accomplished he decided to log off...


So in total "I" went 2-11 in this hacking session...someone who before this had something like a 95%+ win ratio? 2-11, do you really believe this? WITH a maphack, no less?

The only other explanation other than the first one I gave (Which is what actually happened, and is also the only one which is logical) or this one that I just typed is this:

I logged into my main account with my new hack, eager to use it I purposely mass a bunch of losses and play races I dont ever play as an excuse for the TL hacker database, THEN I play some real games and hack BLATANTLY even though I know that ANYONE who is as blatant like he was in that replay of "me" would 100% get reported. Then after I get reported I spend over an hour trying to clear my name....


Again...why would anyone do this? Especially when I have multiple accounts.

IF I were to ever use a maphack (Which I would never do) why would I be so retardedly blatant about it? I am a 23 year old Non Commissioned Officer in the United States Air Force (and I can prove it) It is clear that I am not an idiot, so again...why would I do this.


This whole problem is the product of me making two poor decisions.

First Poor decision; Befriending Lone (Who is a 24 year old adult and really should conduct himself in a more adult manner)

Second Poor decision; Sharing my account information.

Feel free to PM me or post here if you have any further questions.

<3 Moonbattles
Italianstallion
Profile Joined August 2011
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 19:51:52
September 01 2011 04:35 GMT
#243
praise the lord for every day given is a blessing we dont deserve
HSN_
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 04:39:31
September 01 2011 04:38 GMT
#244
WRT Lone/Deezer... there are some really odd moments (pylon block of the 6 pool) but some moments that seem to show they weren't hacking - at around 7 minutes Deezer destroys his own pylon (so he can get out of the base) but then lets lings in, if he was watching it would be obvious that he should have least left a zealot in the way.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
September 01 2011 06:19 GMT
#245
On September 01 2011 13:35 Italianstallion wrote:
hey im Lone, i would like to say that i did not log on to Perseverance's account..either it was someone ealse or he planned all of this... short story i removed him about 3 weeks ago over a dispuit about me not thinking he is a good player ( for sum reason he thinks hes amazing) not that i think im good myself neways this causeed him to get very upset and he began to shyt talk me... i honestly think hes just trying to come up with evidence that i hack or sumthing.. i have proof that he has used hacks in the past ..3 replays of him hacking on his akas to be exact... any moderator can msg me and i will email them a replay...also i dont see the logic in what hes saying we have been non mutual for almost a month he accuses me of hacks and implys that i have his login info.... sounds really suspect to me..didnt think id ever say this but i agree with protech hacker 100%


how are you 24 years old
hihihi
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 01 2011 06:51 GMT
#246
If you want to attack each other make a blog. Otherwise please stick to submitting replays or reviewing submitted replays.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 01 2011 07:35 GMT
#247
On September 01 2011 13:04 Probe1 wrote:
The explanation is satisfactory for me. Of course if the account Perseverance.721 comes up in the thread again it will be instantly added to the list.

oh dear you must be new.
that's the weakest bunch of excuses i've seen. If people were as lenient as you in BroodWar no hacker would ever be outed, because there people really could make up solid excuses.
The very least you couldve done is suggest he complains to blizzard that his account's security has been breached and it is his job to provides us with proof of them confirming that fact.
If Undercover came here and said it was deezer who hacked on his account would u also hold that true?
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CDMVR
Profile Joined August 2011
United States92 Posts
September 01 2011 07:42 GMT
#248
On September 01 2011 16:35 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 13:04 Probe1 wrote:
The explanation is satisfactory for me. Of course if the account Perseverance.721 comes up in the thread again it will be instantly added to the list.

oh dear you must be new.
that's the weakest bunch of excuses i've seen. If people were as lenient as you in BroodWar no hacker would ever be outed, because there people really could make up solid excuses.
The very least you couldve done is suggest he complains to blizzard that his account's security has been breached and it is his job to provides us with proof of them confirming that fact.
If Undercover came here and said it was deezer who hacked on his account would u also hold that true?


Kinda have to agree with this one, considering the person who is "suspected" of playing on Perseverance's account is calling bs on his story.
Warwick Only [Dia IV KR, Dia I NA]
kituatembo
Profile Joined September 2011
United States39 Posts
September 01 2011 09:54 GMT
#249
Server: NA
kituatembo
XxdroidxX http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2465285/1/XxDroidxX/
http://replayfu.com/r/fQt2kj
i watched replay and his camera never once moved.
what ever bot he used must have had map hacks.
11:35 vikings voidray
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JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 10:39:18
September 01 2011 10:34 GMT
#250
Caught moto hacking again.

Server: NA
My name: Jedigamer
Hacker : EZmoto
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2732020/1/EZMoto/

http://replayfu.com/r/HzrHzc


He also has this account, tell it to blizzard, as it is the original account he was hacking on.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1062256/1/MMXMoto/

Keep in mind I didn't even have my stream on. He has done this to EVERYONE including avilo, desrow, etc. I think it should be pretty conclusive. Saddest part is I used to have faith he could stop cheating and play like a man.

Please report this guy as soon as possible.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
MMXMoto-X17
Profile Joined July 2011
Barbados23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 12:32:50
September 01 2011 11:13 GMT
#251
On September 01 2011 19:34 JediGamer wrote:
Caught moto hacking again.

Server: NA
My name: Jedigamer
Hacker : EZmoto
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2732020/1/EZMoto/

http://replayfu.com/r/HzrHzc


He also has this account, tell it to blizzard, as it is the original account he was hacking on.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1062256/1/MMXMoto/

Keep in mind I didn't even have my stream on. He has done this to EVERYONE including avilo, desrow, etc. I think it should be pretty conclusive. Saddest part is I used to have faith he could stop cheating and play like a man.

Please report this guy as soon as possible.


TL AntiHack:
Weak evidence for hacks (i.e. not enough evidence by themselves):
Proxying the correct location without scouting.


Boo Hoo, I sent a probe directly to your base on a 4 player map and made 2 proxy gateway. It was a lucky guess. If u weren't there I would of left game (EZMoto is my smurf account for fun). I did this because I knew if I actually guessed correctly you would rage and make me laugh (cuz of ur bm history and hacking paranoia). And I never hacked in Broodwar u idiot. U were the one hacking.

And you fkn accuse everyone of hacking. And you're bm. Why you think JediGamer got kicked out of coL academy? Because he's bm and cries when he loses and calls people hackers. He called EtsurLizzuma "hacker" like 50x in col academy.

And it doesn't even matter to me if you put my name as hacker, it'll just give me more attention that I want.
CDMVR
Profile Joined August 2011
United States92 Posts
September 01 2011 11:23 GMT
#252
Jedigamer hacked in bw?
Warwick Only [Dia IV KR, Dia I NA]
MMXMoto-X17
Profile Joined July 2011
Barbados23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 12:16:39
September 01 2011 11:23 GMT
#253
On September 01 2011 20:23 Itallion wrote:
Jedigamer hacked in bw?


YES he is Syndicate[xT] / AmBroSiaNatiOn

ask ANY moderator from broodwar about him.

btw what happened to this ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180224

???
JediGamer = Syndicate = AmBroSia

He should be banned.

Other people JediGamer / Syndicate accused of hacking:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226584&currentpage=12#239
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180224&currentpage=2#23
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244103&currentpage=7#125
Every other opponent he loses vs on ladder

Search results of JediGamer hacking in Broodwar:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/search.php?Skeyword=ambrosia&i=forum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184256#16

Does it matter that he hacked in Broodwar?
No, not really. He's clean in SC 2 (except for sc2 beta lol). He streams 90% of his games (and no, I don't stream cheat, not even vs this scum).

AmBroSia / JediGamer hacking in SC2 Beta:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread.php?id=544553

...........

Please ask my good friend Kennigit about this dumbass before believing anything he has to say.

lol.
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
September 01 2011 11:31 GMT
#254
On September 01 2011 16:35 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 13:04 Probe1 wrote:
The explanation is satisfactory for me. Of course if the account Perseverance.721 comes up in the thread again it will be instantly added to the list.

oh dear you must be new.
that's the weakest bunch of excuses i've seen. If people were as lenient as you in BroodWar no hacker would ever be outed, because there people really could make up solid excuses.
The very least you couldve done is suggest he complains to blizzard that his account's security has been breached and it is his job to provides us with proof of them confirming that fact.
If Undercover came here and said it was deezer who hacked on his account would u also hold that true?


This is actually a good idea, Do I just call customer service? I will take this to PM
<3 Moonbattles
nemo14
Profile Joined January 2011
United States425 Posts
September 01 2011 13:58 GMT
#255
On September 01 2011 12:37 ProTech wrote:
Sounds like a bunch of nonsense.

Jeez, give somebody the benefit of the doubt for once.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 01 2011 14:10 GMT
#256
Sad to see that instead of looking like a place to report hackers, this place has turned into some type of drama fest where people who submit replays automatically have the other guy come into the thread and write a long paragraph why they aren't hacking. Why can't people just shut up and wait for the smart people to review the data that they have?

If you have a problem or an excuse, send it via PM instead of shitting all over this thread.
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AysiktiriX
Profile Joined June 2011
358 Posts
September 01 2011 14:21 GMT
#257
On September 01 2011 23:10 Demonace34 wrote:
Sad to see that instead of looking like a place to report hackers, this place has turned into some type of drama fest where people who submit replays automatically have the other guy come into the thread and write a long paragraph why they aren't hacking. Why can't people just shut up and wait for the smart people to review the data that they have?

If you have a problem or an excuse, send it via PM instead of shitting all over this thread.


That's just what I was thinking, QFT. I am so disgusted from this drama, that I'll refrain from actually reviewing replays, until everything is put in order and this thread is hopefully cleaned.
DharmaTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 15:12:04
September 01 2011 14:58 GMT
#258
MMXMoto just implied on Destiny's stream that he was Combat-EX.

He said he sniped Destiny, and when Destiny asked who he was, he said "Let me give you a hint: eZ"

He says he didn't realize that Destiny was streaming. Which doesn't make sense, because how did (he says) he snipe Destiny? Of course, it could just be MMXMoto being a dick.
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JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
September 01 2011 15:26 GMT
#259
MMX.moto is a guy willing to do anything to stir shit up. I did hack in SC1, honestly not because I enjoyed it... but because it seemed like everyone I was playing on east/west/iccup was. Later we found out that tons of people were hacking on iccup. It was a bad decision by me, and I regretted it.

I haven't hacked once on SC2, that "Ambrosia" nickname has never been mine in SC2. In fact I'm pretty sure theres like 3 Ambrosia's on bnet. I stream EVERY day for like 5-6 hours of ladder. I study this game. Nobody has even come close to thinking I hacked besides some random TMC guy who dropped it after it was obvious I wasn't.

I think the thread is derailing when the mods are letting the alleged hackers defend themselves over and over. Just for the record this Moto guy has all the streamers on his friends list, and doesn't actually stream cheat, he maphacks. I can confirm this because in 3/4 of the games he proxied. , which btw I'm above posting a screenshot but I crushed him last 2 times- he did so blindly, my stream was blackenned or off.

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MMXMoto-X17
Profile Joined July 2011
Barbados23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 16:04:20
September 01 2011 16:01 GMT
#260
On September 02 2011 00:26 JediGamer wrote:
MMX.moto is a guy willing to do anything to stir shit up. I did hack in SC1, honestly not because I enjoyed it... but because it seemed like everyone I was playing on east/west/iccup was. Later we found out that tons of people were hacking on iccup. It was a bad decision by me, and I regretted it.

I haven't hacked once on SC2, that "Ambrosia" nickname has never been mine in SC2. In fact I'm pretty sure theres like 3 Ambrosia's on bnet. I stream EVERY day for like 5-6 hours of ladder. I study this game. Nobody has even come close to thinking I hacked besides some random TMC guy who dropped it after it was obvious I wasn't.

I think the thread is derailing when the mods are letting the alleged hackers defend themselves over and over. Just for the record this Moto guy has all the streamers on his friends list, and doesn't actually stream cheat, he maphacks. I can confirm this because in 3/4 of the games he proxied. , which btw I'm above posting a screenshot but I crushed him last 2 times- he did so blindly, my stream was blackenned or off.



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