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FlyingDJ
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany153 Posts
August 06 2011 18:06 GMT
#1
At Battle.net Invitational, readmore.talked to Johan 'Naniwa' Lucchesi about the tournament and his upcoming stay in Korea. Naniwa revealed that he is ready to give up everything for being the best at StarCraft 2.

Here's a snippet:

Do you think eventually anyone who wants to be top three in a tournament will have to live in Korea or is it possible living elsewhere?

It's already that way, you can't win tournaments that easily at least. I think I was the closest when I beat MC at Homestory Cup III, but that's just one series. As I've seen, I can't consistently beat Koreans, I've lost too many times now to MMA, Losira and so on. I am slowly learning that I need a lot higher level practice partners to compete at the same level and I think most of the top players know that as well. I know a lot more players will go to Korea, a lot of players are planning to go there just to practice. GSL Code A is just a bonus to me, I don't expect to win it or make Code S directly. As long as I can improve, I can do it in the next one.

You talk about players going there, let me name IdrA, ret and TLO - players who left Korea. A big factor was the environment and the lack of privacy. Is that something that concerns you as well?

I am willing to give up everything to become the best player so if I can't handle it, I will be very angry with myself. I don't think there will be any reason for me to still play the game if I can't enjoy Korea. Hopefully it won't be a problem, I will force myself through it if I have to. But IdrA was in Korea for three years for StarCraft Broodwar so it's obvious that he perhaps was tired of it. I have not been to Korea even once yet. Ret was also in Korea for Broodwar and had some very bad experiences. TLO as well...he had carpal tunnel, but I don't think he's as motivated as every other player. I think it's only recently that he really wanted to play, before he just rode on the fame and enjoyed whatever he got, because he was so happy about it. We can see with FXO that Korea is the place to be, because already at the previous MLG they improved a lot in the rankings. And qxc 4:0ing IM in the team league that should prove that it is the place to be.


Read the full interview at readmore international.
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
August 06 2011 18:08 GMT
#2
Naniwa's so inspirational and determined about his Korea trip.
Jaedong plz
Pengu
Profile Joined April 2011
England226 Posts
August 06 2011 18:09 GMT
#3
He is so hard on himself, but it will drive him to be and beat the best. GL
Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
August 06 2011 18:11 GMT
#4
he got da fire
NemesysTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1088 Posts
August 06 2011 18:12 GMT
#5
Hope korea goes well for him
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 06 2011 18:12 GMT
#6
I've always criticized his attitude but after reading that apparently I've just been dead wrong about the guy this whole time, hes not just a great player with a shitty attitude hes a great player who's dead serious on improvement. Gotta say I have some respect for the guy after seeing that, he's got a similar attitude that I have with most things I do in life, in all the way or out (although I'm not that way with gaming I just play super casual to relieve stress and have fun). Good luck to him when he goes to Korea, with that outlook I think he'll do extremely well while there and get some nice wins.
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
August 06 2011 18:15 GMT
#7
Im ready for Pro Gaming teams to start taking 1 month off every 6+ months to do KR practice.

As he says, and as teams know. Even if they dont want to compete in the GSL/GSTL, they really need to have practice in KR somewhat consistently to stay good.
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
August 06 2011 18:15 GMT
#8
Also. Naniwa Fighting!!!!
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 06 2011 18:15 GMT
#9
He's risin' up, back on the street.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 06 2011 18:16 GMT
#10
Wow that is intense. I hope he can get the results he wants in Korea!
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
August 06 2011 18:17 GMT
#11
Eye of the tiger right there! I hope he means what he says, he could end up being quite beastly (obviously more so than he already is)
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
DieterEilts
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany283 Posts
August 06 2011 18:17 GMT
#12
very balla statement that he wants to win a GSL. unfurtunately he hasnt heard of Nestea.
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
August 06 2011 18:18 GMT
#13
Good luck naniwa
Moderatorgold coin
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
August 06 2011 18:18 GMT
#14
Go naniwa!
England will fight to the last American
DataMiner
Profile Joined March 2011
United States104 Posts
August 06 2011 18:18 GMT
#15
Fuck yeah! Naniwa Fighting!!!!!!!
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 06 2011 18:18 GMT
#16
Sick determination, just as HuK, these boys are gonna do great, as HuK has started showing.

Without meaning to insult HuK, Naniwa strikes me as more intelligent and possibly even more determined, kid's a killer.
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
August 06 2011 18:19 GMT
#17
I shat my pants
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 06 2011 18:19 GMT
#18
Good luck Naniwa! I'll cheer for you~
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
August 06 2011 18:19 GMT
#19
Naniwas the man
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
darcevader88
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada648 Posts
August 06 2011 18:19 GMT
#20
how can you not love nani after reading this?

he is pure heart, pure dedication and talent.

Keep it up naniwa :D
"The ground is my ocean, I'm the shark and most people don't even know how to swim."
Fangxxer
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden70 Posts
August 06 2011 18:19 GMT
#21
Naniwa Figthing!
Soooooo many bannnnlingssssssss!!! - Artosis
alexhard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden317 Posts
August 06 2011 18:20 GMT
#22
Is it important for you that Thorzain is coming as well?

Thorzain, as far as I know, is not staying for a long time. For the flight there it is really nice, but we won't live at the same place so it doesn't really affect anything.


Anyone know where they will be staying? Does dignitas have a deal with a Korean team perhaps?
Logarythm
Profile Joined November 2010
United States264 Posts
August 06 2011 18:21 GMT
#23
Naniwa is one of the most dedicated people I've found.
Making bad decisions.
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
August 06 2011 18:21 GMT
#24
What naniwa said about TLO is so true. TLO remind of fruitdealer. TLO is more passionate about casting then playing for short period of time.
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XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
August 06 2011 18:21 GMT
#25
Go crush the competition!

We're waiting on ya.
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KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
August 06 2011 18:22 GMT
#26
Wow, talk about determination. Goodluck to you nani!
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 18:25:21
August 06 2011 18:22 GMT
#27
Best of luck Naniwa, it's sometimes a difficult road being hard on yourself, I really hope that you will see good results from your practice and perseverance!
It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb.
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
August 06 2011 18:23 GMT
#28
Naniwa is a fucking boss man! I really hope he takes Protoss to a whole new level in Korea.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
August 06 2011 18:24 GMT
#29
Respect the guy for his attitude
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#30
Naniwa has the eye of the tiger.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 18:26:52
August 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#31
edit: wrong thread

anyways, Naniwa is one of the few legitimate foreigner heroes imo
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#32
Naniwa is truly amazing. With his dedication I expect he will get a lot out of his time spent in Korea, and hopefully pwn up code A while he's there
"See you space cowboy"
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
August 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#33
Mad respect to naniwa.
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
August 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#34
This is the right attitude that all foreigners should have. Props to Naniwa for being one of the first few foreigners with this much determination! Good luck naniwa!
Soowoo AD.
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#35
One day Naniwa is gonna get what he is owed and we will all bow at his feet.
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
Xaeldaren
Profile Joined June 2010
Ireland588 Posts
August 06 2011 18:28 GMT
#36
Is it important for you that Thorzain is coming as well?

Thorzain, as far as I know, is not staying for a long time. For the flight there it is really nice, but we won't live at the same place so it doesn't really affect anything.


That's kinda cute. It seems they really get on. After TSL3 and Naniwa's relentless trolling in TL Attack I was thinking there might be a little resentment there
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 06 2011 18:29 GMT
#37
Gogo Naniwa, I love his state of mind.
I'll cheer for you Nani, GOGO !
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 06 2011 18:29 GMT
#38
not many attitudes allow you to be #1.

but this one works.
We talkin about PRACTICE
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
August 06 2011 18:29 GMT
#39
He's a true champ. You gotta love him for his approach to this game.
What a player
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
August 06 2011 18:29 GMT
#40
Fuck yeah Naniwa. This is what we need.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
August 06 2011 18:29 GMT
#41
On August 07 2011 03:20 alexhard wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is it important for you that Thorzain is coming as well?

Thorzain, as far as I know, is not staying for a long time. For the flight there it is really nice, but we won't live at the same place so it doesn't really affect anything.


Anyone know where they will be staying? Does dignitas have a deal with a Korean team perhaps?


Was wondering the same thing.

Naniwa really seems to know what he wants and is willing to sacrifice to achieve it. Good for him. Hopefully it works out for him.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
OSM.OneManArmy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States509 Posts
August 06 2011 18:30 GMT
#42
Naniwa and Thorzain <333333333333333333333
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beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
August 06 2011 18:30 GMT
#43
he said thorzain is not staying for a long time =(

although im pumped that naniwa is pumped for korea.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 06 2011 18:31 GMT
#44
Naniwa won't live with Thorzain ? Where will he live ? (in a korean team house I hope... going there to practice on ladder would sucks so much ><) Too bad he'll not stay with Thorzain, because both could elevate their play faster if they'd be able to talk about the game.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
August 06 2011 18:32 GMT
#45
if youre going to korea, you gotta give it 150% he has the right attitude, and im sure it will pay off.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Norp
Profile Joined April 2010
United States55 Posts
August 06 2011 18:33 GMT
#46
I love Naniwa, hope he accomplishes his full potential.
fadestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States605 Posts
August 06 2011 18:33 GMT
#47
There are things to like and dislike about Naniwa, but you can't question his outrageous dedication and drive.
not a hero
cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
August 06 2011 18:33 GMT
#48
Good luck to Naniwa. Heart of a champion
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 06 2011 18:33 GMT
#49
Fuck yeah, Nani so awesome.

This is what a Starcraft player is. When you have that mindset, it doesn't matter where you're from.
hjkim1304
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)105 Posts
August 06 2011 18:34 GMT
#50
That is a bold dream. If he does ever win it, he would be like the next esports icon in korea and abroad. His attitude is really inspirational and respectable.
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
August 06 2011 18:34 GMT
#51
where will nani be practicing ? in a team house or the ladder? .. it would be awesome if he was staying with huk/jinro/mc, Then he'd improve a shitload !
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 06 2011 18:34 GMT
#52
Go Naniwa! Just more practice dude!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
August 06 2011 18:34 GMT
#53
Go Go naniwa
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ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
August 06 2011 18:34 GMT
#54
On August 07 2011 03:18 niteReloaded wrote:
Sick determination, just as HuK, these boys are gonna do great, as HuK has started showing.

Without meaning to insult HuK, Naniwa strikes me as more intelligent and possibly even more determined, kid's a killer.



This. Some people hate his past BM, some people dislike his lack of social skills.

The the thing is. He knows what he wants. He doesn't play games. His stone cold, calculating, mind processing, intelligent behavior should show this. Just watching a player cam of him shows his brilliance. Like i wish i could read his mind.

3 months on KR ladder and Naniwa would compete with anybody he could get matched up against.

i also agree, HuK is very very skilled, more than likely more skilled than Naniwa. But HuK doesn't have the potential skill cap that Naniwa has.

Like they said, kid's a killer, he wants it that bad, more than any other player i have seen.
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
jhlee820
Profile Joined June 2011
149 Posts
August 06 2011 18:35 GMT
#55
Naniwa's already awesome, so I can't wait to see how amazing he's gonna be after training in Korea!
sOAvoid
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada206 Posts
August 06 2011 18:35 GMT
#56
hope naniwa does well in kr 8D
"We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like."
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 06 2011 18:35 GMT
#57
I think naniwa's got what it takes to bring his dedication to reality and hope him all the best.
btw what was the concern about environment and lack of privacy in SKorea?
Dexx
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
August 06 2011 18:36 GMT
#58
Nani is hardcore when it comes to competition. A bit suicidal for my taste, but you maybe need this attitude to really become the best.
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
August 06 2011 18:36 GMT
#59
Respect Nani, I will cheer you on in Korea .
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 18:37:33
August 06 2011 18:37 GMT
#60
Good for naniwa.. Seriously, could you consider perhaps a conversation piece so I feel like we can actually add input to this thread?

I have no doubt he will do better once he is mentally forced to play 10+ hours of starcraft [edit: per day] but I find myself worrying for his health. + Show Spoiler +
Koreans have padded wrists and bottoms, they are built for video games!
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Kimla
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden400 Posts
August 06 2011 18:37 GMT
#61
I think he will improve alot in korea hope he atleast manage to stay in coda A his first season. I think he one of few forigners thats gonna be able to compete with the koreans.
no gg no skill
Auross
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 18:37:52
August 06 2011 18:37 GMT
#62
Naniwa seems as one of the most determined player in the foreigner scene.
What we need to compete with koreans is a few more top players like him willing to go to KR, practice the shit out of themselves for a long period of time.
MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
August 06 2011 18:38 GMT
#63
Nani is my favourite player because of his attitude. To be the best, you need to train like the best
Chill: "Please let us know when you will be streaming yourself eating a hat so I can put it on the calendar. Thanks."
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
August 06 2011 18:38 GMT
#64
Much respect for someone who has so much dedication. Good luck in Korea Naniwa!
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 06 2011 18:41 GMT
#65
Man, he's really serious about this Korea-training-thing. He's gonna do great! I just know it.
DavidLindley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States84 Posts
August 06 2011 18:42 GMT
#66
I like the way this sounds, hope to see Naniwa tear it up
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 06 2011 18:42 GMT
#67
Best of luck to you nani, hope korea turns out great for you!
Axak
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark33 Posts
August 06 2011 18:42 GMT
#68
Eye of the Tiger!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 06 2011 18:42 GMT
#69
On August 07 2011 03:21 lazyfeet wrote:
What naniwa said about TLO is so true. TLO remind of fruitdealer. TLO is more passionate about casting then playing for short period of time.


TLO have said on numerous occasions, even when casting, that he'd rather play than cast. Naniwa might be right but not for the reason you seem to believe.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
August 06 2011 18:43 GMT
#70
Wow, Naniwa is a baller! Good luck koreans, Naniwa goes to kill!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
PigglyWinks
Profile Joined May 2011
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 18:45:05
August 06 2011 18:44 GMT
#71
Naniwa and SaSe to live with SlayerS? SaSe to join(or try out for?) Slayers? I believe dApollo mentioned on Shoutcraft Invitational 2 that "some of the guys going over to Korea were looking to stay in the SlayerS house." if I recall correctly, something along those lines. dApollo is a friend of SaSe and teammate of Naniwa.

SaSe leaving MYM, with no other foreign team seemingly lined up (you'd think it would have been announced by now as he's about to play Code A, lots of exposure etc). Naniwa has in the past mentioned that Slayers is his favourite team on State of the Game.
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
August 06 2011 18:44 GMT
#72
On August 07 2011 03:35 Roe wrote:
I think naniwa's got what it takes to bring his dedication to reality and hope him all the best.
btw what was the concern about environment and lack of privacy in SKorea?


Take a look at the bedrooms in the MVP house for example:
most pro houses are quite similar.

I could not sleep there for a single night with so many beds in such a small room :/

Good luck in Korea nani
Ahrun
Profile Joined July 2011
United States100 Posts
August 06 2011 18:45 GMT
#73
I use to not like Naniwa just because of sometimes a little bit of bm. (Getting visibly angry after losing to HuK at MLG, and his ideas that WC3 players were better. Hurt me a little) Now I see that he really believes in himself. He wants something and will work for it. That's insipiring. GO NANIWA, hope you win EU invitational
Hit them, if they don't die hit em again and again and again. - Zerg Swarm training school
Prime`Rib
Profile Joined September 2010
United States613 Posts
August 06 2011 18:45 GMT
#74
I am so blind betting on Naniwa now. This man will be my LIQUIDBET DESTROYER.
... funerals are insane, the chicks are so horny, its not even fair, its like fishing with dynamite ...
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
August 06 2011 18:46 GMT
#75
Its amazing that someone can be so inspirational and still come off so impersonal at the same time. Maybe its just a Swede thing. But eithdr way gl to Naniwa ill definetly be rooting for you over there.
Jieun <3
Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
August 06 2011 18:47 GMT
#76
On August 07 2011 03:44 Neelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 03:35 Roe wrote:
I think naniwa's got what it takes to bring his dedication to reality and hope him all the best.
btw what was the concern about environment and lack of privacy in SKorea?


Take a look at the bedrooms in the MVP house for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKuSgL6NA8 most pro houses are quite similar.

I could not sleep there for a single night with so many beds in such a small room :/

Good luck in Korea nani


lands are not cheap in every single place in the world. You have to sacrifice to achieve things. Seriously, what is the big deal of owning your own room, don't speak like a spoilt brat.
VeryAverage
Profile Joined January 2011
United States424 Posts
August 06 2011 18:49 GMT
#77
This is why I like Naniwa, he really wants to succeed and he's willing to work hard to do it.
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
August 06 2011 18:49 GMT
#78
Cant wait to see what Naniwa can do after his Korean training .
:)
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
August 06 2011 18:49 GMT
#79
This is why I'm a Naniwa fan!
For Aiur???
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
August 06 2011 18:51 GMT
#80
A real warrior willing to do anything to win

Cant be a part timer and compete with top koreans anymore
★ Top Gun ★
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
August 06 2011 18:55 GMT
#81
Wow best of luck to Naniwa (and Thorzain too!). I became a Naniwa fan after listening to him on Thorzain's TL Attack episode. If you missed it check it out... Naniwa is hilarious.
TehPwntif
Profile Joined April 2010
United States25 Posts
August 06 2011 18:56 GMT
#82
Naniwa is a foreigner hero. Willing to give up everything for Starcraft 2 and for the fans.

<3
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
August 06 2011 18:57 GMT
#83
Think this is the only motivation you can have if you go to korea, anything less, and it will definitely fail. Good luck naniwa
no dude, the question
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 06 2011 18:59 GMT
#84
FIGHTING! I'll cheer you on :D
Dear Sixsmith...
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
August 06 2011 18:59 GMT
#85
I read the title and thought he was gonna give up on sc2 lol
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
August 06 2011 18:59 GMT
#86
Naniwa got 1 more fan
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
August 06 2011 19:00 GMT
#87
naniwa has the single best attitude of any foreigner i think. he and huk have such superb work ethic.
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dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
August 06 2011 19:01 GMT
#88
Nani will tear it apart. He is amazing now but imagine Nani after 6 moths of Korean training.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 19:06:31
August 06 2011 19:03 GMT
#89
On August 07 2011 03:47 Zaurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 03:44 Neelia wrote:
On August 07 2011 03:35 Roe wrote:
I think naniwa's got what it takes to bring his dedication to reality and hope him all the best.
btw what was the concern about environment and lack of privacy in SKorea?


Take a look at the bedrooms in the MVP house for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKuSgL6NA8 most pro houses are quite similar.

I could not sleep there for a single night with so many beds in such a small room :/

Good luck in Korea nani


lands are not cheap in every single place in the world. You have to sacrifice to achieve things. Seriously, what is the big deal of owning your own room, don't speak like a spoilt brat.


That's the whole reason for someone to admire people who sacrifice something to achieve their goal. The majority is this "spoiled brat" who respects the ones who aren't (I'd consider myself that, too, because I couldn't imagine to live like that).
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
August 06 2011 19:04 GMT
#90
<3 Naniwa, hoping to see him do well. Hwaiting!
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
August 06 2011 19:04 GMT
#91
I don't know why, but every time I hear Naniwa saying that he wants to be the very best, this song buzzes in my head.

Video

No disrespect to the guy, but it just goes off in my head. :I

Gogo Naniwa!
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
Premier
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States503 Posts
August 06 2011 19:04 GMT
#92
Nani fighting!!!!!!
Picture Me Rollin' - DJ Premier, Titan of the Tables
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8320 Posts
August 06 2011 19:04 GMT
#93
I've kinda thought that about Naniwa for a while, great to see that he has that mindset. I'm becoming more and more of a fan of him. Can't wait to see how he and his fellow countrymen (and Fenix) do in Code A
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
August 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#94
Very nice attitude toward hard work!

Best wishes to you in Korea.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
August 06 2011 19:06 GMT
#95
I like his attitude, I hope he does well. seems like he has long term plans for doing well in korea.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 06 2011 19:07 GMT
#96
Gonna call it right now:

Nani will be the best foreigner after he stays in Korea for a bit of time. I seriously think he will pass Huk, and hopefully will surpass MC as the best Protoss in the world.

Get em Nani. 100% support.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
August 06 2011 19:08 GMT
#97
It's obvious that Korea is the place to be if you want to become the best. It seems like Naniwa is one of the few foreigners who genuinely want to be the best.
No relation to Monsieur J.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
August 06 2011 19:09 GMT
#98
Love his dedication.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 06 2011 19:12 GMT
#99
If more foreigners will adopt this approach maybe foreign scene has a chance, go Nani.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 19:18:58
August 06 2011 19:18 GMT
#100
On August 07 2011 03:44 PigglyWinks wrote:
Naniwa and SaSe to live with SlayerS? SaSe to join(or try out for?) Slayers? I believe dApollo mentioned on Shoutcraft Invitational 2 that "some of the guys going over to Korea were looking to stay in the SlayerS house." if I recall correctly, something along those lines. dApollo is a friend of SaSe and teammate of Naniwa.

SaSe leaving MYM, with no other foreign team seemingly lined up (you'd think it would have been announced by now as he's about to play Code A, lots of exposure etc). Naniwa has in the past mentioned that Slayers is his favourite team on State of the Game.


I believe Huk also mentioned that some of the new foreigners wanted to train with the Slayers team in his Rakaka interview.
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
August 06 2011 19:19 GMT
#101
Naniwa's dedication seems genuine. Hopefully he improves a hell lot from Korea.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 06 2011 19:19 GMT
#102
naniwa is a baller and he seems to have the correct mentality to succeed in korea. i hope he does well and we see some foreigner ownage.
Magniris
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada41 Posts
August 06 2011 19:20 GMT
#103
I am now a Naniwa fan. Nani fighting!!!
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 19:27:43
August 06 2011 19:26 GMT
#104
i wish naniwa could join a team like liquid.

it he gets into the ogs house, then that would be amazing for him. plus he has jinro in ogs who could translate for him.

well hopefully he gets into a top korean house.
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 06 2011 19:27 GMT
#105
On August 07 2011 04:26 svi wrote:
i wish naniwa could join a team like liquid.

it he gets into the ogs house, then that would be amazing for him. hopefully he gets invited into a top tier house.

I agree. The F.United house will be pretty good, but the oGs house or one of the FXO houses would be amazing for his development.
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
August 06 2011 19:28 GMT
#106
IMNaniwa. They need some better protosses.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
August 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#107
Lucky :O We would all love to give up everything but for most of us that's not possible ;p
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Harmonious
Profile Joined December 2010
179 Posts
August 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#108
On August 07 2011 03:12 RaLakedaimon wrote:
I've always criticized his attitude but after reading that apparently I've just been dead wrong about the guy this whole time


Well, people change, sometime for the better. And it is better to know that we had to improve than to believe that we were never in need of change. I think Naniwa will agree with that.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#109
nani was short abotu giving up shit game after leave germany after kick from eps xD and now look where he is, he will be the best or no one
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
August 06 2011 19:30 GMT
#110
good luck NaNiwa! your dedication is unmatched!
Crazypyro1
Profile Joined May 2010
United States446 Posts
August 06 2011 19:30 GMT
#111
On August 07 2011 04:29 Galaxy_Zerg wrote:
Lucky :O We would all love to give up everything but for most of us that's not possible ;p


To be fair, he worked really hard and is among the top foreigners. Don't really know how you could attribute this to luck...
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
August 06 2011 19:34 GMT
#112
I'm a big Naniwa fan. Not so much because of his play (although it's awesome), but because of how he comports himself. He has the kind of attitude I really admire in a player.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 06 2011 19:37 GMT
#113
OP misled me at first to think Naniwa is giving up SC2 o.O, glad that it turned out completely the opposite. Best of luck to him in Korea, and hope he's patient about his growth, as I think it would take time to reach the levels he wants to reach. He will probably have to lose some more games first.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Skarmory
Profile Joined May 2011
112 Posts
August 06 2011 19:38 GMT
#114
I wish he wouldn't blame his losses on silly things like the map. Protoss shouldn't complain about close position shattered temple.
Xanatoss
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany539 Posts
August 06 2011 19:38 GMT
#115
Thats the spirit I expect from a "Professional Gamer". Go Nani!
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss. MC says, "Hi Greg, long time no see." You back slowly out of the booth. But you can't. It's already forcefielded.
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
August 06 2011 19:39 GMT
#116
I like his determination. Good luck NaNiwa.
Liquipedia
deadjawa
Profile Joined May 2011
United States179 Posts
August 06 2011 19:41 GMT
#117
On August 07 2011 04:38 Skarmory wrote:
I wish he wouldn't blame his losses on silly things like the map. Protoss shouldn't complain about close position shattered temple.

Isn't that kind of human nature though? Everyone complains about the things that were in their way when something bad happens. Just look at how much balance whining still goes on, even though the win rates of each race is basically even.

I don't even listen to that stuff any more, its just the players blowing off steam.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 06 2011 19:42 GMT
#118
oh wow such passion. gl man!
sebsejr
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
213 Posts
August 06 2011 19:43 GMT
#119
Omg Naniwa, GL to you, love your determination. dont go to hard on yourself tho, could end up backfireing take care <333
/peace
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
August 06 2011 19:44 GMT
#120
Naniwa fighting!
I am the Town Medic.
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
August 06 2011 19:47 GMT
#121
On August 07 2011 04:38 Skarmory wrote:
I wish he wouldn't blame his losses on silly things like the map. Protoss shouldn't complain about close position shattered temple.


You obviously don't understand how bad the positions are. Both sides of the matchup close positions shouldn't be in tourneys.
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
getSome[703]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States753 Posts
August 06 2011 19:47 GMT
#122
Winning is the only thing that counts. I didn't even come top three.


Champion attitude right here. Nani you can be the best we believe in you <3
Running Log! http://www.runningahead.com/logs/5081b4d7a4a94c5e8fa20b01e668dfb6/calendar
Garth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States353 Posts
August 06 2011 19:52 GMT
#123
Do it naniwa =D.
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
August 06 2011 19:52 GMT
#124
Great interview. And good luck Naniwa! Spoken like a true champion.
God is dead.
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
August 06 2011 19:52 GMT
#125
good luck Naniwa!! I admire your dedication and heart so much!
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
Imerej
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada291 Posts
August 06 2011 19:53 GMT
#126
This is the determination and attitude that is so rare in the foreign scene. I really admire it and hope he improves and does well in korea! I know he has what it takes.
sadyque
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania251 Posts
August 06 2011 19:59 GMT
#127
Nani is one of the few players i think can make it and wtfpwn koreans.
Problem is that if Naniwa goes and wont post good results the foreign scene is fucked
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Maffe
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden133 Posts
August 06 2011 20:14 GMT
#128
He has the mindset of a true pro gamer. Hopefully he can just live up to that.

im this and what is 12
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
August 06 2011 20:17 GMT
#129
Aww man, he's pretty harsh on himself =0 Best of luck though. If any foreigner deserves to succeed it's Naniwa with his insane desire to win.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
August 06 2011 20:18 GMT
#130
gl Naniwa! Such a dedicated player. How can you not cheer for him?
#TeamBuLba
Nesquik
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom600 Posts
August 06 2011 20:19 GMT
#131
Good luck Naniwa !! I'll be rooting for you !!
Oh IMMvp won agian but EGHuK getting Ro8 is a way bigger deal - Gootecks
LawnMower
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden557 Posts
August 06 2011 20:19 GMT
#132
Admirable attitude and mindset. Go Naniwa!
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russel
Taug
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
August 06 2011 20:20 GMT
#133
talk is cheap!
The Golden Rule
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
August 06 2011 20:20 GMT
#134
On August 07 2011 05:20 Taug wrote:
talk is cheap!

So is stupid comments like this
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
August 06 2011 20:23 GMT
#135
On August 07 2011 05:20 Taug wrote:
talk is cheap!

uh what are you talking about?
manloveman
Profile Joined April 2011
424 Posts
August 06 2011 20:24 GMT
#136
On August 07 2011 05:20 Taug wrote:
talk is cheap!


He has already proved that he is a very good player. He has also proved that he was willing and able to change his demeanor.
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
August 06 2011 20:25 GMT
#137
wow. so much respect for Nani. I really hope you make it man

NANIWA FIGHTINGGGGG
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
landmarktiger
Profile Joined April 2011
226 Posts
August 06 2011 20:26 GMT
#138
This is the kind of attitude that is needed to win big tournaments. That is why i have a LOT of respect for Nani and Huk and the same reason i lost ALL my respect for sheth even though he is probably the nicest progamer out there.
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
August 06 2011 20:26 GMT
#139
That's so awesome... To think of what everyone thought of him before... Just a upstart kid who bms... Look how far you've come, NANI GOGOGO!
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 20:30:41
August 06 2011 20:27 GMT
#140
On August 07 2011 03:47 Zaurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 03:44 Neelia wrote:
On August 07 2011 03:35 Roe wrote:
I think naniwa's got what it takes to bring his dedication to reality and hope him all the best.
btw what was the concern about environment and lack of privacy in SKorea?


Take a look at the bedrooms in the MVP house for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKuSgL6NA8 most pro houses are quite similar.

I could not sleep there for a single night with so many beds in such a small room :/

Good luck in Korea nani


lands are not cheap in every single place in the world. You have to sacrifice to achieve things. Seriously, what is the big deal of owning your own room, don't speak like a spoilt brat.


Holy jesus... why all the hostility? He was voicing his opinion. I would never in my life live with someone other than my wife either. Especially not in such a small room with 5 other guys at the minimum. If you don't like your own living conditions that's too bad for you, live with it, move, or stop bitching about everyone who's got it better (Which is like, 90% of north america)
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
August 06 2011 20:27 GMT
#141
Hope he does well, I'd like to see that kind of determination pay off.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
niteblaze
Profile Joined August 2010
United States143 Posts
August 06 2011 20:31 GMT
#142
Naniwa! I'm going to Code A next week to see you play! Hope you get to Up and Downs! NANIWA FIGHTING!
NASAmoose
Profile Joined May 2011
United States231 Posts
August 06 2011 20:32 GMT
#143
NaNiWa fighting. You win that GSL bro, I'll be rooting for ya.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
August 06 2011 20:32 GMT
#144
Love his mindset.

Go smash those koreans around!
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
August 06 2011 20:34 GMT
#145
Thats the kind of mentality that you NEED to be a sc2 great, and I think it is lacking in many players.

I know when i have a serious project or revision to do, I sit down and every hour I am not working on it I feel guilty and have to be able to justify the free time on the basis of having worked hard enough that day. I would really hope that sc2 pros feel the same, practicing under 3-4 hours a day just isn't enough in my book.
Socke Fighting!!!!
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
August 06 2011 20:45 GMT
#146
On August 07 2011 05:27 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 03:47 Zaurus wrote:
On August 07 2011 03:44 Neelia wrote:
On August 07 2011 03:35 Roe wrote:
I think naniwa's got what it takes to bring his dedication to reality and hope him all the best.
btw what was the concern about environment and lack of privacy in SKorea?


Take a look at the bedrooms in the MVP house for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKuSgL6NA8 most pro houses are quite similar.

I could not sleep there for a single night with so many beds in such a small room :/

Good luck in Korea nani


lands are not cheap in every single place in the world. You have to sacrifice to achieve things. Seriously, what is the big deal of owning your own room, don't speak like a spoilt brat.


Holy jesus... why all the hostility? He was voicing his opinion. I would never in my life live with someone other than my wife either. Especially not in such a small room with 5 other guys at the minimum. If you don't like your own living conditions that's too bad for you, live with it, move, or stop bitching about everyone who's got it better (Which is like, 90% of north america)


MVP house seems to be an extreme example, as in other Korean houses, about 4-5 players appear to share a room. Do note that the guys only use those beds to sleep at night and pretty much nothing else.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
August 06 2011 20:48 GMT
#147
Nice to see him so determined. Best of luck!
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leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 20:50:57
August 06 2011 20:50 GMT
#148
i remeber the big thread when naniwa was kicked out of the EPS and everyone was hating on him. im so happy to see him rise and i hope i see him rise even higher. i always felt like this guy takes it way more serious than others.

i look forward to him playing in GSL and try to catch the matches he plays. i really wish naniwa the best and to be honest i think he can win GSL if he plays in korea for a longer period of time. i just hope his mental state allows him to overcome bad times

good luck!!
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
August 06 2011 20:52 GMT
#149
Do your best, Nani.. And don't be too hard on yourself! Good luck!
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 06 2011 20:52 GMT
#150
"I would give up everything, even start a world war, for these ghetto boys and girls I'm 'Crafting 'round the world for." - Naniwa (no thats not true)

<3 Naniwa, I know he can do it!
VonBlucher
Profile Joined January 2011
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 20:56:02
August 06 2011 20:55 GMT
#151
Naniwa is so dedicated, I hope he gets into a good partnership with a top Korea pro-team so he can really grow as a player in Korea. I know he'll be practicing with WeMadeFox, but they're a small team in comparison to others, if he got picked up by Prime, Startale, or even IM (Who's coach has expressed interest in dedicated Foreign players with lots of potential) as a honorary member like something TL-OGS has, I think he'd quickly become a ridiculously good player.

Really, for a lot of players, you can tell that going to Korea and training is just too much of an investment for them, and for good reason. But Naniwa is willing to do it, and he could become one of the best as a result, I'm really looking forward to him in August!
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
August 06 2011 20:56 GMT
#152
God I love Naniwa. His attitude is just inspirational not just for sc2 but for life. I think he could do whatever he wanted to do and be the best at it because he has that drive that not a lot of people have. It's amazing and it's what makes him great.

Also the people that think that Naniwa has a bad attitude, it's not a bad attitude to the other players, he is just mad at himself that he didn't win. It's quite admirable
Evil Geniuses<3
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
August 06 2011 20:56 GMT
#153
Hmm where is naniwa staying? with a team? it says him and thorzain are not staying at the same place, so im assuming at least one of them will not be staying at the gom house.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 06 2011 20:56 GMT
#154
all these nerds migrating and wcg in korea getting me all excited!
why so 진지해?
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
August 06 2011 20:57 GMT
#155
On August 07 2011 05:52 Bibbit wrote:
"I would give up everything, even start a world war, for these ghetto boys and girls I'm 'Crafting 'round the world for." - Naniwa (no thats not true)

<3 Naniwa, I know he can do it!


Love the Lupe Fiasco quote even though you changed rapping to crafting lol
Evil Geniuses<3
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
August 06 2011 20:58 GMT
#156
That's what I call inspiring.

Read that and get ready to move mountains with this new strength that just entered your body!
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
August 06 2011 20:59 GMT
#157
On August 07 2011 05:52 Bibbit wrote:
"I would give up everything, even start a world war, for these ghetto boys and girls I'm 'Crafting 'round the world for." - Naniwa (no thats not true)

<3 Naniwa, I know he can do it!


LUPEEEE
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
August 06 2011 20:59 GMT
#158
Yes he's damn good now but imagine how good he will be after practicing hard in Korea.

Naniwa fighting!
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
August 06 2011 21:00 GMT
#159
go go Naniwa, you can do it.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
August 06 2011 21:00 GMT
#160
Baller interview for sure.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
ticktack
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
August 06 2011 21:06 GMT
#161
naniwa seems to be so determined to be the best. Gotta love that mentality. Cant wait till he wins GSL. hehehehe..
A winner is just a loser who got pissed off and tried harder
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
August 06 2011 21:07 GMT
#162
On August 07 2011 05:26 landmarktiger wrote:
This is the kind of attitude that is needed to win big tournaments. That is why i have a LOT of respect for Nani and Huk and the same reason i lost ALL my respect for sheth even though he is probably the nicest progamer out there.

Agreed, when you look at the difference between say someone like naniwa and someone like Sheth its like night and day.

Sheth is not willing to make the sacrifices necessary to become the best , i was really excited for him when he first went to korea and won his first match. And then not only does he move back early he is given a second chance to get into the up and down matches through the wildcard tourney to take Rains spot, and he doesnt even try, he just concedes. He couldnt even handle going back there for another week and a half. In my mind he just comes off as weak willed, and he doesnt have what it takes to truley succeed.

I wish him the best of luck in liquid, but compared to huk and naniwa , sheth has been a dissapointment too me, there is no room for the lazy (mentally) in e-sports you gotta be dedicated and make sacrifices (it was only 2 weeks anyways no one was saying he had to live there forrever) but to accept a code a spot with no intention of going into code s or no intention of even trying it out seems crazy, he should have given his spot to someone who deserved it like QXC who would have been fully commited for the time he is in korea (until the end of the summer)
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11106 Posts
August 06 2011 21:11 GMT
#163
Nani is a winner.

I don't want to go too far offtopic but... if sheth is lazy and still posts good results and is happy with his life... meh? I'm not a "fan" but there's no need suddenly call him lazy and a slacker and such when he and ret already put in countless hours.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
constantqt
Profile Joined July 2011
176 Posts
August 06 2011 21:13 GMT
#164
hope he doesnt burn out fast
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 06 2011 21:14 GMT
#165
Naniwa really gained a fan with that interview. Didn't know too much about him before this. It's a shame that Thorzain isn't staying long though... I would have loved to see how good he'd get doing what Naniwa is planning to do.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 21:22:20
August 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#166
Love Nani's approach and attitude - he is one of the few foreigners that has a chance of being top-tier.
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
August 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#167
Naniwa...is the fucking man.
TVUmK
Profile Joined April 2011
United States91 Posts
August 06 2011 21:17 GMT
#168
If any foreigner can do it, its Naniwa. GL in Korea!
"Just go (freaking) kill him!"-Day9
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
August 06 2011 21:19 GMT
#169
OFC Korea is the place to we unless you want many (easy?) tournaments =)!
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
August 06 2011 21:20 GMT
#170
On August 07 2011 06:11 Sabu113 wrote:
Nani is a winner.

I don't want to go too far offtopic but... if sheth is lazy and still posts good results and is happy with his life... meh? I'm not a "fan" but there's no need suddenly call him lazy and a slacker and such when he and ret already put in countless hours.

I wasnt saying anything about ret, i mean ret spent months in korea and decided it wasnt for him in the end, spending a week and a half doesnt really give you a great assesment + im pretty sure ret would have hung in there for an extra 2 weeks for his team if the situations were reversed (i have no doubt in my mind actually)

I would be perfecty happy for sheth as well if he can be lazy and still post results, im just not a fan anymore. Like even comparing him to some of his former teammates like qxc or tgun who have gone above and beyond and are choosing to continue to stay in korea they are making sacrifices for the sake of improving themselves in their chose proffesion and i respect that.

It just pisses me off that sheth couldnt even go back for 2 weeks to support his team. That pretty much lead to him being on liquid though so best of luck to him on his new team i guess!.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
xlava
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States676 Posts
August 06 2011 21:20 GMT
#171
Naniwa is a total fucking baller and I wish him the best. He definitely has the potential to be the best, but its a long road ahead that takes him through the likes of MC, MVP, and of course, the final boss of the world: Nestea. Thats not even including the soon to be SC2 pros from Broodwar who will likely begin dominating sooner than we think.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
August 06 2011 21:24 GMT
#172
If anyone will be able to best the koreans it's certainly Naniwa. Such an amazing attitude.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 06 2011 21:25 GMT
#173
Wow with that attitude, he could take on the entire fcking world. I expect great things from you Naniwa.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
August 06 2011 21:29 GMT
#174
And it wasn't that long ago that everyone was shitting on him. This is one of the most remarkable 180s I've ever seen from anyone in pro-gaming. His attitude, passion, and pure skill made him one of my favorite players a while back, and this doesn't look to ever change for me. I'll be up late for every single match he's in.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 06 2011 21:29 GMT
#175
Calling it now... Naniwa to be one of the best players in the world
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Xenogears
Profile Joined July 2011
France87 Posts
August 06 2011 21:33 GMT
#176
NaNiwa is just the best!

I love the attitude.. When you get back from Korea you're gonna destroy em all!
MVP :)
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 06 2011 21:35 GMT
#177
He will make it, possibly the most determined SC2 player out there. Good luck NaNiwa.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
August 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#178
Comparing Naniwa and Sheth....oh well, we only need 1 foreign GSL champion.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#179
Naniwa is one of the VERY few foreigners that have the right mindset to make it far in sc2, even on Korean grounds.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
August 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#180
I like the attitude. This is neccessary if foreigners are ever going to do well again.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
August 06 2011 21:47 GMT
#181
This is awesome to hear.Being a lil naniwa fan already I'm happy to see hes determined.So many fails have went over to korea and not in terms of skill but in terms of mindset. Happy to see he already has a good mindset about it. Reminds me of when Idra went you can tell he was willing to suck hardcore for months without questioning coming.
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
August 06 2011 21:48 GMT
#182
humor, dedication and great skills.. you go Naniwa
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
August 06 2011 21:49 GMT
#183
The TLO diss was unwarranted IMO :/ . There is no need to question a players commitment and dedication to the game unless you know him personally (and going by personal history, TLO and Naniwa are not exactly the best of friends).
Envy fan since NTH.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
August 06 2011 21:50 GMT
#184
On August 07 2011 06:49 Piledriver wrote:
The TLO diss was unwarranted IMO :/ . There is no need to question a players commitment and dedication to the game unless you know him personally (and going by personal history, TLO and Naniwa are not exactly the best of friends).

Stop crying, he just stated his mind.

Nice stuff Nani!
I love crazymoving
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
August 06 2011 21:52 GMT
#185
Awesome! Hopefully we will see an improvement from him as he will get the Korean training :D
Simply Awesome! - Liquid'Ret - NSHoSeo_Seal - coLMVP_DRG - EG_Idra - Fnatic.NightEnd
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 06 2011 21:54 GMT
#186
Good luck, Naniwa.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
ZaxbyCof
Profile Joined June 2011
81 Posts
August 06 2011 21:54 GMT
#187
this is a difference in a top tier pro and a amateur level pro.

I am rooting for a Naniwa.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
August 06 2011 21:55 GMT
#188
On August 07 2011 06:50 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:49 Piledriver wrote:
The TLO diss was unwarranted IMO :/ . There is no need to question a players commitment and dedication to the game unless you know him personally (and going by personal history, TLO and Naniwa are not exactly the best of friends).

Stop crying, he just stated his mind.

Nice stuff Nani!



Stop crying, I was just stating my mind.

See what I did there?
Envy fan since NTH.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
August 06 2011 21:57 GMT
#189
On August 07 2011 06:55 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:50 Flonomenalz wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:49 Piledriver wrote:
The TLO diss was unwarranted IMO :/ . There is no need to question a players commitment and dedication to the game unless you know him personally (and going by personal history, TLO and Naniwa are not exactly the best of friends).

Stop crying, he just stated his mind.

Nice stuff Nani!



Stop crying, I was just stating my mind.

See what I did there?



Just by checking your qoute you're a naniwa hater. See what I did there?
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 22:02:14
August 06 2011 21:58 GMT
#190
On August 07 2011 06:57 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:55 Piledriver wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:50 Flonomenalz wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:49 Piledriver wrote:
The TLO diss was unwarranted IMO :/ . There is no need to question a players commitment and dedication to the game unless you know him personally (and going by personal history, TLO and Naniwa are not exactly the best of friends).

Stop crying, he just stated his mind.

Nice stuff Nani!



Stop crying, I was just stating my mind.

See what I did there?



Just by checking your qoute you're a naniwa hater. See what I did there?



Not really, I'm actually a fan of both Naniwa and KiwiKaKi, having known them since my wc3 days. Just stating an opinion immediately makes someone a fanboy/hater these days.

Edit: And I dont understand the need for a bunch of people to jump out of the woodwork and criticize me. I made a very civil comment about a particular answer in the interview (and not criticizing him as a player) and immediately people are all over me trying to bust my balls. Stop being so defensive over a small opinion. Christ.
Envy fan since NTH.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
August 06 2011 21:58 GMT
#191
This attitude of Naniwa is why he continues to be my favorite player of all time, ever since I was introduced to him during the TSL3/MLG era I have never failed to be amazed by this guy.

His understanding of what it takes to be the best of the best is what drives this guy, going into Anaheim he knew he wasen't going to win because he did not practice or prepare enough, despite this he still got top 8.

Considering this guys already on Huks level without any Korean training i am getting absolute nerd chills thinking (Getting WIGGLY and JIGGLY as I write this) about how skilled he will be come 2-3 months of training in Korea. <3 Nani!
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
August 06 2011 21:59 GMT
#192
On August 07 2011 03:12 NemesysTV wrote:
Hope korea goes well for him

True this.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
August 06 2011 22:00 GMT
#193
Naniwa is keeping himself motivated! Great to see him so passionate.
King of Kings
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany481 Posts
August 06 2011 22:01 GMT
#194
I hope he has success in Korea.
Fan of: MarineKingPrime.WE | MVP_Keen | LiquidTLO | oGs.MC
Ashworth
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
August 06 2011 22:02 GMT
#195
On August 07 2011 06:49 Piledriver wrote:
The TLO diss was unwarranted IMO :/ . There is no need to question a players commitment and dedication to the game unless you know him personally (and going by personal history, TLO and Naniwa are not exactly the best of friends).

They lived together...
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
August 06 2011 22:06 GMT
#196
On August 07 2011 03:17 DieterEilts wrote:
very balla statement that he wants to win a GSL. unfurtunately he hasnt heard of Nestea.

He didn't say he wants to win anytime soon- he plans on improving greatly and hopefully in the next year or so get close to the championship.
I really hope he does well and can improve to the point where he is undoubtedly the best foreigner and that he can compete with the koreans.
Long live the Boss Toss!
mantower
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden131 Posts
August 06 2011 22:09 GMT
#197
Very nice interview, I'm really looking forward to see Naniwas progression after a couple of months in Korea. With the mindset he has, I'm sure he won't disappoint!

Naniwa fighting!
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
August 06 2011 22:10 GMT
#198
On August 07 2011 07:02 Ashworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:49 Piledriver wrote:
The TLO diss was unwarranted IMO :/ . There is no need to question a players commitment and dedication to the game unless you know him personally (and going by personal history, TLO and Naniwa are not exactly the best of friends).

They lived together...



I would like to see the source, cause I pretty well remember him saying that TLO doesnt like him and so he isnt staying at the Swedish practise house.Link to the source. I maybe completely wrong though, and they may have patched things later on.

Even so, openly saying that someone is just riding their fame seems kinda iffy to me. Not gonna post much on this same topic anymore. Cheers.
Envy fan since NTH.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
August 06 2011 22:10 GMT
#199
GL Nani, the whole world is watching and wishing you the best.
sad312
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada56 Posts
August 06 2011 22:14 GMT
#200
Holy shit i love naniwa now. GLHF IN KOREA MANN
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
August 06 2011 22:20 GMT
#201
I think it was a fair comment about TLO. TLO is evolving more and more into a caster. Just try to remember how many tournaments he has casted lately. And i think it is a pretty good transition for him. His carpal tunnel problem is starting to become chronic, and you shouldn't risk your wrist for anything, not even SC2.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
August 06 2011 22:24 GMT
#202
On August 07 2011 07:20 legaton wrote:
I think it was a fair comment about TLO. TLO is evolving more and more into a caster. Just try to remember how many tournaments he has casted lately. And i think it is a pretty good transition for him. His carpal tunnel problem is starting to become chronic, and you shouldn't risk your wrist for anything, not even SC2.

He already stated, that he wants to back off casting and concentrate on his gaming career...
prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
August 06 2011 22:26 GMT
#203
i have so much respect for him
SECO SECO SECO
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
August 06 2011 22:28 GMT
#204
Just epic. Naniwa F1ghting!
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
August 06 2011 22:30 GMT
#205
On August 07 2011 07:10 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:02 Ashworth wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:49 Piledriver wrote:
The TLO diss was unwarranted IMO :/ . There is no need to question a players commitment and dedication to the game unless you know him personally (and going by personal history, TLO and Naniwa are not exactly the best of friends).

They lived together...



I would like to see the source, cause I pretty well remember him saying that TLO doesnt like him and so he isnt staying at the Swedish practise house.Link to the source. I maybe completely wrong though, and they may have patched things later on.

Even so, openly saying that someone is just riding their fame seems kinda iffy to me. Not gonna post much on this same topic anymore. Cheers.

Listen to the TL attack with him again. He was there at the time I think.

Naniwa has the mindset needed to be in Korea. Good luck to him!
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 06 2011 22:31 GMT
#206
This, every foreigner should understand stopping Koreans from joining foreigner's tourneys won't help at all.
If you wanna be the best, you gotta take out the best.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
August 06 2011 22:34 GMT
#207
naniwa we are all cheering for ya
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
August 06 2011 22:41 GMT
#208
Naniwa: The Great Foreign Hope
This space for rent.
j3i
Profile Joined February 2011
United States357 Posts
August 06 2011 22:42 GMT
#209
Dedication is important.. especially for foreigners. Much respect to Jinro and Huk for staying and practicing so long. Let's hope Naniwa can do the same.
I am an idiot who knows only about gaming, so there is nothing private to talk about to begin with. - Bisu
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 06 2011 22:43 GMT
#210
Pretty amazing how this guy has changed; from one of the least motivated sloppy progamers hardly even showing up for his matches and getting kicked off several teams, to a player that will practice harder than practically every other foreigner and will beat himself up to no end for losing a series or dropping out of a tournament. I think/hope he'll achieve his goal (winning a GSL) eventually.
hawliet
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Mexico112 Posts
August 06 2011 22:45 GMT
#211
naniwa needs to be in korea :D GL naniwa!!!!
If you think you are good enough, you should presume what you want.- Naniwa
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
August 06 2011 22:47 GMT
#212
naniwa is so inspirational, hope all goes well for him
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 06 2011 23:25 GMT
#213
Mad respect for Naniwa, he has gone from the bad boy of e-sports to an example of determination and super hardworking gamer and one of the best there is as well.

Naniwa actually got a very very good point about if you want to be the best, you need to go to Korea. I can imagine after one year in Korea, even w/o any GSL win. Naniwa can just come back to EU and rape everyone else. (Huk is a very good example of this, the only major tourney winner recently that not a Korean)

I can already seeing him improve alot for the next 2 months and start winning EU/NA tourney if he has a chance to go there.

Best of luck Naniwa, I didn't like you in the past, but I am a full supporter of you now. Naniwa go go go!!!!
Terran
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
August 06 2011 23:30 GMT
#214
God damn, he better win his match against Check! Check's a shitload better than anyone will give him credit for. He was a war3 progamer since the very early days of war3 and can put in a pretty astonishing number of practice games, he just evolves his strats slowly. Very solid mechanical player and I doubt Naniwa will have an easy walkover with him.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
August 06 2011 23:34 GMT
#215
Very inspiring player.
He has the talent and the perfect mindset to achieve incredible things in the future.
I'll say it again; very inspiring.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:49:05
August 06 2011 23:48 GMT
#216
On August 07 2011 08:30 Drowsy wrote:
God damn, he better win his match against Check! Check's a shitload better than anyone will give him credit for. He was a war3 progamer since the very early days of war3 and can put in a pretty astonishing number of practice games, he just evolves his strats slowly. Very solid mechanical player and I doubt Naniwa will have an easy walkover with him.

the awesome thing about nani is that if he loses to check that'll just make him practice like a maniac for the next gsl, he's looking to stay in korea for a long time
crystyxn
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania254 Posts
August 06 2011 23:48 GMT
#217
gogo naniwa!!
"You should be the one putting pressure on your opponent, not the other way around." - Artosis
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
August 06 2011 23:59 GMT
#218
NaNiwa got so good in Europe. He's gonna be a total beast of a player in Korea.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
PSIKevin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
August 07 2011 00:08 GMT
#219
This is the reason why I love Naniwa.
He is so dedicated, he is earnest about wanting to be the best. Other people like Sheth or TLO love having their fans and are content doing their best for the fans, but Naniwa isn't content with that, he WANTS to win. Naniwa Fighting!
xO-Gaming
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
August 07 2011 00:13 GMT
#220
Every foreigner should have his attitude.
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
August 07 2011 00:16 GMT
#221
forseeing great things to happen :p
xd
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 00:17:40
August 07 2011 00:17 GMT
#222
o fuck, that line gave me shivers. This to me is the epitome of Naniwa. It is the reason he is one of, if not my favorite player.

Some people seem to believe that it doesn't take that much to be one of the best at starcraft, and maybe at the current state of the game, it doesn't, but soon people are going to have to be willing to give up everything if they want to be amongst the top 5.

gogo Naniwa!! you're an inspiration! <3<3

Edit: Also why he's gonna be first foreigner champ
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
August 07 2011 00:19 GMT
#223
scary, scary, scary, SCARY opponent

eye of the tiger will eventually beat you all.
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 07 2011 00:21 GMT
#224
You need to make one thread for all your Readmore stuff.
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