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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 11:39:32
May 30 2011 11:37 GMT
#1
I know there's been multiple discussions of what is a bonjwa or who is a bonjwa, but my question is who makes a bonjwa a bonjwa?

Or, how do they "officially" become a bonjwa?

Is it fan determined? Is there some kind of bonjwa committee that gets together to determine bonjwas? How were the original 4 bonjwas titled as bonjwas?

Does the community determine who becomes or qualifies as a bonjwa?

It's indisputable that NaDa, oov, and sAviOr are bonjwas, but it seems controversial that BoxeR and even more controversial, Flash are bonjwas. How are we to know?

Edit: Liquipedia defines Flash as a bonjwa, but how'd they get that?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
May 30 2011 11:38 GMT
#2
When the anti-fans start to consider them bonjwas is my stance
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 30 2011 11:42 GMT
#3
Only sAviOr is the real bonjwa. Others were "called" bonjwa retrospectively.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 30 2011 11:43 GMT
#4
On May 30 2011 20:37 mizU wrote:
I know there's been multiple discussions of what is a bonjwa or who is a bonjwa, but my question is who makes a bonjwa a bonjwa?

Or, how do they "officially" become a bonjwa?

Is it fan determined? Is there some kind of bonjwa committee that gets together to determine bonjwas? How were the original 4 bonjwas titled as bonjwas?

Does the community determine who becomes or qualifies as a bonjwa?

It's indisputable that NaDa, oov, and sAviOr are bonjwas, but it seems controversial that BoxeR and even more controversial, Flash are bonjwas. How are we to know?

Edit: Liquipedia defines Flash as a bonjwa, but how'd they get that?


The day after Flash beating Jaedong to win two Starleagues in a few day period, the Korean community, commentators and fans all basically declared him a bonjwa on all the major SC2 article sites.
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primarch359
Profile Joined January 2011
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 11:45:39
May 30 2011 11:45 GMT
#5
On May 30 2011 20:42 endy wrote:
Only sAviOr is the real bonjwa. Others were "called" bonjwa retrospectively.


Can he still be considered that after the cheating scandal?
and then TRUMPETS
GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
May 30 2011 11:46 GMT
#6
On May 30 2011 20:42 endy wrote:
Only sAviOr is the real bonjwa. Others were "called" bonjwa retrospectively.

This is true, based on the essence of the word.

Jaedong is already DONGJWA, no worries!
DONGJWA!
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2011 11:48 GMT
#7
Its a feeling thing i guess...
If you really have to wonder if someone is bonjwa then he probly isn`t.
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Rhaegar99
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Australia1190 Posts
May 30 2011 11:51 GMT
#8
pretty much when 99% of the community agrees the player is bonjwa
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 30 2011 11:53 GMT
#9
Here we go. I'll keep this short,

It means unrivaled for a consecutive period of time. The reason why there is so much controversy between whether or not Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, etc. attained such prestige is because they were always neck in neck. Flash went on a little spurt with consecutive victories. That is why the OGN commentator decided to lampoon him into the circle, but later an article by Fomos would declare him "God."

It's a stupid device of a word.
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
May 30 2011 11:53 GMT
#10
Controversial that BoxeR is considered a bonjwa!?! Girl you crazy.

Ender's method is a pretty good determinant. When you think of a bonjwa, it is something obvious. There is just one player, that, when they play a game, you just assume that they are the favorite to win and their opponent is going to need something special to have a chance at winning. Everyone will just... know...

Say, sAviOr was playing, but you don't really care about zerg games at all, because you are a tvt and tvp player. But I mean... it's sAviOr playing... you just have to watch him play, because he just commands that type of attention.

For the more current era, watching flash and jaedong was it. Everyone who watched broodwar last year knows that when flash and jaedong were playing, it was going to be the best possible game of starcraft period. Even if you didn't like them, who cares? It was fuckin flash v jaedong finals man!

Not going to go into the Flash as bonjwa thing (he is called "God", so I'll leave it at that), but you get the picture...
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popzags
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland604 Posts
May 30 2011 11:55 GMT
#11
On May 30 2011 20:42 endy wrote:
Only sAviOr was the real bonjwa until he fucked up entire e-sports.

Fixed it a little.

I'll provide you a useful formula:

X + Y = 0 - 3

Where:
X = decent, well-rounded progamer who's like "OMG, should I retire? I'm playing against Y, that's the worst drawing I could possibly get, I'm fucked, my hands are literally trembling and my pants are full!"
Y = probable Bonjwa.
0 - 3 = the result of Bo5 between X and Y.
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Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
May 30 2011 11:55 GMT
#12
On May 30 2011 20:45 primarch359 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:42 endy wrote:
Only sAviOr is the real bonjwa. Others were "called" bonjwa retrospectively.


Can he still be considered that after the cheating scandal?


Yes ofc. Regardless of what he did later in his career he was still just as dominant as one can be during his prime.
Mada Mada Dane
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
May 30 2011 11:58 GMT
#13
you must be born in November
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GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
May 30 2011 12:00 GMT
#14
On May 30 2011 20:58 disciple wrote:
you must be born in November

hah!
DONGJWA!
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
May 30 2011 12:01 GMT
#15
On May 30 2011 20:58 disciple wrote:
you must be born in November

You win 3/4 MSLs and then you win an OSL.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 30 2011 12:03 GMT
#16
On May 30 2011 20:58 disciple wrote:
you must be born in November


I'm not asking what criteria!

I'm asking who titles a bonjwa a bonjwa?

Does the TL staff decide who's a bonjwa and who's not? (Or who isn't bonjwa thread mention worthy?) :o
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
May 30 2011 12:04 GMT
#17
On May 30 2011 20:45 primarch359 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:42 endy wrote:
Only sAviOr is the real bonjwa. Others were "called" bonjwa retrospectively.


Can he still be considered that after the cheating scandal?


Ver already said this on God of the Battlefied, and I can't find better words than him

On May 25 2011 05:36 Ver wrote:
Though Savior seriously undermined the institution of e-Sports through his despicable crimes, we must be able to separate his faults as a human being from his accomplishments as a player. Though he will rightfully never play another game of professional Brood War, he left a significant, lasting mark on the way the game is played today.
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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
May 30 2011 12:07 GMT
#18
On May 30 2011 20:58 disciple wrote:
you must be born in November


Well damn it I was born in December and was about to go on a 150-0 pro kill in Korea....I'm contacting my attorney on this!! JK But really I think its just a title to someone who does unbelievably good and amazes people with upsets,etc. That's just my op obviously on the matter but I think the entire title is opinion since there can be no official version of it, and even if there could be who in the world would have the true authority to make someone have such a title. Unless of course there could be like the "original" bonjwa and then only he could say someone else later on could also be granted the title. Which came first the bonjwa or the bonjwa title? (chicken and egg parody if my joke ends up looking that bad LOL)
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
May 30 2011 12:11 GMT
#19
On May 30 2011 21:03 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:58 disciple wrote:
you must be born in November


I'm not asking what criteria!

I'm asking who titles a bonjwa a bonjwa?

Does the TL staff decide who's a bonjwa and who's not? (Or who isn't bonjwa thread mention worthy?) :o

TL cant choose between Megan Fox and Charlize Theron. Bonjwa stuff was up to the koreans to decide.

But seriously, having 3+ titles and being born in November was always enough to be called a bonjwa. Boxer is the only exception having birthday in September, but he is more of a honorary bonjwa anyways. The only guy in recent years that really qualifies to the criteria above is Bisu (yep, born in November). So fuck you, Mind
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
May 30 2011 12:13 GMT
#20
On May 30 2011 20:45 primarch359 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:42 endy wrote:
Only sAviOr is the real bonjwa. Others were "called" bonjwa retrospectively.


Can he still be considered that after the cheating scandal?

yes
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