• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:08
CEST 19:08
KST 02:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism9Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?125Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism SC4ALL: II Winner will earn a spot at HSC 30! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 7/8 Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
KSL Week #92 IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly 2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Broodwar Prediction Market Terran or Protoss [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL22] Ro16 Group B Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9154 users

[D] Pro-gamers, attitude and eSports in general - Page 3

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
April 11 2011 21:06 GMT
#41
There was a similiar thread a while ago with some pros stating their opinion.
Link The last post has some sort of summary (though he missed some pros like Darkforce).

Overall my opinion is:
It would annoy me. Use other methods of communication (ilve events, stream chats, PMs, IRC, ...)
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
April 11 2011 21:06 GMT
#42
I think its rude to be messaging pro players with stupid questions and/or comments. With that said, I think the pro community in general has nothing but disdain for the general playerbase based on comments that you hear tasteosis/day9 make or other casts like State of the Game. Pro players in general seem to ridicule and look down on the average player, so I wouldn't really expect them to answer a whisper even if for some reason they weren't actually busy practicing.
Alexl
Profile Joined January 2011
288 Posts
April 11 2011 21:57 GMT
#43
Personnaly, the two pros I've ever pm'd so far (lalush and stephano) have both replied when i asked them a question (not like" omg how do i winz" but like 2-3 lines) but when i see the amount of messaging people get while streaming i'd actually feel bad about messaging them :>
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 00:12:27
April 12 2011 00:11 GMT
#44
can you imagine the chaos if people were able to communicate with Kobe every time he held a basketball?

i think thats one way to look at it. since any pros with their ID known to public, will be harassed just being online with sc2 on.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
April 12 2011 00:14 GMT
#45
You can't ask them to be anything but themselves, and some people, myself included, have trouble playing and typing to people at the same time.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
April 12 2011 01:11 GMT
#46
I once messaged MouzMaNa and told him i was a big fan and that i was thrilled for his Dreamhack finish, even though I was sad about him not winning. He lol'ed, thanked me and I thought it was very nice of him.

I also accidently messaged Adelscott, he blocked me -.- but i never liked Adel so I don't care
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
foLster
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada43 Posts
April 12 2011 01:38 GMT
#47
I asked Machine to wave to the camera on State of The Game, and he did it - with a smile!
<3
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
April 12 2011 01:42 GMT
#48
I pm\d Jinro something nonsensical and I got a nonsensical respond, so overall I am happy and Starcraft pros are 1 for 1 with me. Anyway I Think there are a lot of factors you need to take into account. First of all, no popular starcraft 2 pro will ever be able to get back to all of his fans, so in some ways just getting back to a few is is not fair to the other fans. Anyway one big thing I think we need to take into consideration, which I know is a big problem for anyone who work on the computer and basically have complete freedom in terms of workload\scheduling. When they sit down to practice, they practice.

That is something that is more or less absolutly needed to be able to have great success as a starcraft 2 professional imo. If you sit down to practice, and spend half of the time , or 25% of the time, or 10% of the time, or 5% of the time, responding to fans instead of pracitcing, then there will be someone out there who works harder than you and who does not spend that extra time on fans and who could get better because of that. So any time they use responding to fans should more so go out of their "free time " than their "practice time" and I am sure you can understand that for someone who probably practices starcraft 5-8+ hours a day, it does not always seem like a great way to spend my freetime chatting Teaching 1 out of 100 fans how to play starcraft 2.

Wat
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
April 12 2011 01:47 GMT
#49
Progamers have a TON of random people constantly messaging them. They have absolutely no time to message every single person. What makes you think that you're special enough to warrant them responding to you?
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
April 12 2011 01:47 GMT
#50
Pro's also do this for a living. You might be able to compare it to a backhoe driver. If random people started stopping every day, 40-50 a day, asking you how to work it or what maker is the best for backhoes it would get irritating not only for the worker but the company. They are trying to better their play for professional/profitable reasons so they are not always going to want to help. Considering the massive amount of ways to find help online it isn't really a negative thing to esports if they don't respond.

We have TL.net, all the commentators, lessons that are given by pros, and just playing for experience to learn. Asking them while they are working isn't really necessary to get better.
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
April 12 2011 01:48 GMT
#51
On April 12 2011 03:14 Desirous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:45 Soier wrote:
Edit: How can you feel intitled to a response? you dont know them, you dont pay them, they are not a public sercive just bec they are "pros"


I have no clue how it works over there in Denmark, but the way I see it is that companies sponsor events for the viewers, not for the pros. The pros make money because of us, and if you/they think otherwise you're sadly mistaken



Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:44 TOCHMY wrote:
Just watch inc's or huk's stream and you'll see infinite messages after every game/on facebook/on msn.



The question is have you watched their streams? I've watched incs and huks a few times and geoff responds to every message he gets and both of them are interactive with stream chat. Your argument is "they shouldn't have to respond to everything because these 2 guys who get spammed all day do respond to everything" lmfao.






Any Pro-gamer or even amateur who refuses to interact with his fans is only doing it for the money and shouldn't have any fans. And they sure as hell don't care if eSports grows if they're giving people the cold shoulder. It falls on the Pro-gamer to schedule his time efficiently not the fans.


you say it like it's NFL or NBA where fanfare dictates a huge differential in salary of the millions. LOL @ only in it for the money, seriously? most 'progamers' are not on that level and nothing would change for them if no one cared whether they won every tournament. it falls on the progamer to prioritize indulging his fans over playing or anything else he could be doing and nothing more. not everyone is on a valiant crusade to carry the world of esports on their shoulders, most people just play the game because they enjoy it and some happen to be very good.
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
April 12 2011 01:54 GMT
#52
I see where you are coming from. But even I, am torn on whether or not I am truely a "pro gamer" I don't really play enough per day, but I get messages, A LOT. I mean, A LOT A LOT. I tried at first to respond politely to all of them, but now, I tend to just ignore them.
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 02:03:09
April 12 2011 01:57 GMT
#53
Well messaging someone saying "im a big fan of u gl in the future etc" is fine and it doesnt need a reply.Im sure the person would appreciate it.Whats annoying though is when people start asking questions,and sometimes really stupid ones,such as "OMG PLAYER X how do u deal with banelings"
Spamming is also annoying.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 02:43:30
April 12 2011 02:35 GMT
#54
Random people who message you asking for advice should be dealt with the same way beggars are dealt with. Don't acknowledge their existence at all.

The second you respond they will think you're their new best friend and message you every other day and ask you to play 2v2 with them despite being turned down every time. It's nice when people message you once in a blue moon and you respond, but unfortunately most of the random people who message you are annoying 14 year olds.

EDIT: I don't mean to sound rude, but it's just frustrating when you are friendly and nice to people who don't understand social norms.
www.infinityseven.net
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 12 2011 02:42 GMT
#55
If you sponsor me, I will respond to you in chat when you ask me questions . Semipros usually respond, I don't know, maybe they just felt you were trolling them when you asked that question.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
April 12 2011 02:49 GMT
#56
I think this is not really going anywhere, the experiment was pretty flawed to begin with.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
16:15
Rotti's PatchesSC Open #3
RotterdaM530
IndyStarCraft 143
TKL 142
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 530
ByuN 246
IndyStarCraft 143
TKL 142
UpATreeSC 44
Trap 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32354
Calm 4847
Dewaltoss 122
firebathero 118
Mong 80
Pusan 45
soO 35
Rock 22
Free 16
Shine 11
[ Show more ]
yabsab 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
Dota 2
qojqva4641
Fuzer 20
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1192
fl0m1188
edward1110
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu283
Other Games
summit1g1892
singsing1730
hiko666
Beastyqt639
crisheroes283
Hui .204
XaKoH 138
ArmadaUGS108
Trikslyr44
QueenE40
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 75
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 30
• FirePhoenix9
• Michael_bg 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3713
League of Legends
• Jankos1708
• TFBlade710
Other Games
• imaqtpie256
• Shiphtur215
Upcoming Events
The PiG Daily
5h 52m
CranKy Ducklings
16h 52m
WardiTV Invitational
17h 52m
Cure vs Zoun
SHIN vs Classic
ByuN vs MaxPax
Percival vs YoungYakov
AI Arena Tournament
23h 52m
OSC
1d 3h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 17h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 21h
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 22h
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
2 days
IdrA vs MC
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-10
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.