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Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
June 15 2011 19:20 GMT
#681
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?
Got that.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
June 15 2011 19:31 GMT
#682
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


I love IPXZERG. Not savior though, he's just okay.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
June 15 2011 19:57 GMT
#683
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


Maybe because he is the best Zerg player of all time, if not the best player period at his peak? I mean, seriously. It's like finding out that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife. It's like "yeah that's obviously not good" but it doesn't detract from all of his amazing accomplishments
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
June 15 2011 20:07 GMT
#684
On June 16 2011 04:57 Jonas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


Maybe because he is the best Zerg player of all time, if not the best player period at his peak? I mean, seriously. It's like finding out that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife. It's like "yeah that's obviously not good" but it doesn't detract from all of his amazing accomplishments


Micheal Phelps was caught smoking weed. The media made a huge deal. Does anyone really care? No, because he's the worlds fastest Swimmer.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6813 Posts
June 15 2011 20:08 GMT
#685
On June 16 2011 04:57 Jonas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


Maybe because he is the best Zerg player of all time, if not the best player period at his peak? I mean, seriously. It's like finding out that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife. It's like "yeah that's obviously not good" but it doesn't detract from all of his amazing accomplishments


? if u are a man u must think tiger wood its a boss -__-;; ,also no good example
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
June 15 2011 20:10 GMT
#686
On June 16 2011 05:07 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 04:57 Jonas wrote:
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


Maybe because he is the best Zerg player of all time, if not the best player period at his peak? I mean, seriously. It's like finding out that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife. It's like "yeah that's obviously not good" but it doesn't detract from all of his amazing accomplishments


Micheal Phelps was caught smoking weed. The media made a huge deal. Does anyone really care? No, because he's the worlds fastest Swimmer.

Neither of those two examples have anything to do with the sport that they were playing...
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 15 2011 20:13 GMT
#687
On June 16 2011 05:10 IamBach wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 16 2011 05:07 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 04:57 Jonas wrote:
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


Maybe because he is the best Zerg player of all time, if not the best player period at his peak? I mean, seriously. It's like finding out that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife. It's like "yeah that's obviously not good" but it doesn't detract from all of his amazing accomplishments


Micheal Phelps was caught smoking weed. The media made a huge deal. Does anyone really care? No, because he's the worlds fastest Swimmer.

Neither of those two examples have anything to do with the sport that they were playing...


This.

Savior affected the sport itself that is BW. And not only that but they were a lot doing it so the BW reputation was going downhill because of that (at that time).
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
June 15 2011 20:37 GMT
#688
On June 16 2011 05:13 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 05:10 IamBach wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 16 2011 05:07 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 04:57 Jonas wrote:
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


Maybe because he is the best Zerg player of all time, if not the best player period at his peak? I mean, seriously. It's like finding out that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife. It's like "yeah that's obviously not good" but it doesn't detract from all of his amazing accomplishments


Micheal Phelps was caught smoking weed. The media made a huge deal. Does anyone really care? No, because he's the worlds fastest Swimmer.

Neither of those two examples have anything to do with the sport that they were playing...


This.

Savior affected the sport itself that is BW. And not only that but they were a lot doing it so the BW reputation was going downhill because of that (at that time).

Imagine if you were a player who wasn't sAviOr.

You work your whole life, as hard as you can everyday to be #1. And the person who IS number one cheats and lies in order to make more money. Doesn't make the top any more welcoming. Especially with the release of SC2 around the corner when the whole scandal came out, it was just something that any athlete with an ounce of respect for the game they play wouldn't have done.

Tiger and Michael Phelps didn't affect the game they played, and didn't betray their own skills in the sport by cheating/lying/fixing. They made silly personal decisions (though I have no issue with Phelps toking, it wasn't smart to let someone take a picture of him doing it), they didn't ruin their IN-GAME accomplishments.
Got that.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
June 15 2011 20:42 GMT
#689
On June 16 2011 05:37 Chronald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 05:13 Essbee wrote:
On June 16 2011 05:10 IamBach wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 16 2011 05:07 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 04:57 Jonas wrote:
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


Maybe because he is the best Zerg player of all time, if not the best player period at his peak? I mean, seriously. It's like finding out that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife. It's like "yeah that's obviously not good" but it doesn't detract from all of his amazing accomplishments


Micheal Phelps was caught smoking weed. The media made a huge deal. Does anyone really care? No, because he's the worlds fastest Swimmer.

Neither of those two examples have anything to do with the sport that they were playing...


This.

Savior affected the sport itself that is BW. And not only that but they were a lot doing it so the BW reputation was going downhill because of that (at that time).

Imagine if you were a player who wasn't sAviOr.

You work your whole life, as hard as you can everyday to be #1. And the person who IS number one cheats and lies in order to make more money. Doesn't make the top any more welcoming. Especially with the release of SC2 around the corner when the whole scandal came out, it was just something that any athlete with an ounce of respect for the game they play wouldn't have done.

Tiger and Michael Phelps didn't affect the game they played, and didn't betray their own skills in the sport by cheating/lying/fixing. They made silly personal decisions (though I have no issue with Phelps toking, it wasn't smart to let someone take a picture of him doing it), they didn't ruin their IN-GAME accomplishments.


But you're cool with steroids in sports.
djbhINDI
Profile Joined June 2011
United States372 Posts
June 15 2011 21:46 GMT
#690
I think we should be glad, as a site dedicated to Starcraft, that such a good player is showing us his gameplay.
You can't emphasize enough how much you need to be a paradigm shifter. - Savior
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 15 2011 21:51 GMT
#691
Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it.

wow ur really bold to say that on a site where everyone is hating on Savior for the last year. So brave. You have anymore controversial opinions?
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
June 15 2011 21:51 GMT
#692
On June 16 2011 06:46 djbhINDI wrote:
I think we should be glad, as a site dedicated to Starcraft, that such a good player is showing us his gameplay.

yes.

and if he's making money from it, cool, good for him. He shouldn't be allowed to participate in any kespa-sanctioned events ever again, but if he can earn some money broadcasting his games to people who want to see them, i don't see anything wrong with that.
I drop suckas like Plinko
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
June 15 2011 21:56 GMT
#693
I don't see what the big deal is with him playing BW in his spare time.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 22:32:36
June 15 2011 22:12 GMT
#694
if anyone is interested, heres some vods of him playing last night

http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288112998
http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288113025
http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288141255


theres a fair bit of lag, couldn't be helped D:
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Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
June 15 2011 22:36 GMT
#695
On June 16 2011 07:12 Kiante wrote:
if anyone is interested, heres some vods of him playing last night

http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288112998
http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288113025
http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288141255


theres a fair bit of lag, couldn't be helped D:

thanks for these dude, much appricitiated.
Slivered Skin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada347 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 22:37:53
June 15 2011 22:37 GMT
#696
On June 16 2011 07:12 Kiante wrote:
if anyone is interested, heres some vods of him playing last night

http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288112998
http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288113025
http://www.justin.tv/kiante/b/288141255


theres a fair bit of lag, couldn't be helped D:


SAviOr may have broken my heart, but...I just can't resist watching him play again. Thanks for the links!
Those most oft mated find love’s motive in a word: inebriated - Get well Violet!! And sC!! T_T
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
June 15 2011 22:44 GMT
#697
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

A warranted reaction?

Pete Rose hypothetically wanting to coach again can't be compared to sAviOr playing SCBW on Afreeca. He isn't involved in his former profession in a professional way, so how can there be any 'warranted reaction'?

Playing on Afreeca pretty much compares to Pete Rose throwing baseball with his son in his own yard. Would you post 'Fuck Pete Rose' because of that?

Regardless of how the respective athletes have cheated in their profession, I think they should be able to enjoy it on a casual, non-profitable level as it after all has been such a huge part of their lives. How can you deny someone this right?
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
June 15 2011 23:03 GMT
#698
Well for those really upset about Savior and the scandal, I guess it is a bit overblown. He damaged entertainment, that's it. I am sure all of us could go on with our lives even if BW was completely destroyed except for maybe 1000 jobs.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 15 2011 23:05 GMT
#699
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?


No it's not.

As far as I'm aware he was not barred from playing BW ever again...

Never to play in Kespa again sure, but that doesn't mean he isn't allow to play for leisure. The punishment has been doled out and the situation has passed.

I thought what Savior did was shitty and all but that will never take away from the unparalleled skill he possessed at his peak.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
June 15 2011 23:08 GMT
#700
On June 16 2011 04:20 Chronald wrote:
Honestly,

Fuck sAviOr. Yeah I said it. Just like I'll say fuck Pete Rose. People like that are the lowest of the low in my opinion.

He deserves what he got, and the reaction to him playing again is totally warranted. Imagine is Pete Rose wanted to start coaching players or even offering personal training? People would flip the fuck out because he cheated.

This isn't like using Steroids because the entire league does (MLB/NFL/All American sports), this is one of the best and most loved players of all time betraying his fans and supporters by fixing and throwing games for money.

sAviOr is a cheat who deserves no respect from anyone, how can you love SC:BW or SC2 so much and not consider him the lowest of the low? Honestly?

Nobody is debating whether he deserved the punishment received or not.

Just because he fucked up by throwing games for money doesn't meant we should treat him like he carries the plague.
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