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Pros and Cons of Kellymilkies being Code A Caster

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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 06:36:00
February 18 2011 06:33 GMT
#1
We have been hearing many arguments from both sides regarding GOM's decision to hire kellymilkies as a Code A caster.

GOM announced that Kellymilkies will rotate with a duo cast of Kelly and Artosis or Kelly and Tasteless for the Code A matches.

Pros
Female
Starcraft player
Has casting experience
A fresh face
New perspective

Cons
Game knowledge is lacking
Hard to understand
Lacks chemistry
Unprofessional

After all the back and forth between the two groups, it seems we are sending a mixed message to GOM. Even their announcement seemed confused and scattered. Here's a poll to show GOM where the community stands regarding GOM choosing kellymilkies as a Code A caster.

Poll: Do you like Kellymilkies being a Code A caster?

No (429)
 
83%

Yes (86)
 
17%

515 total votes

Your vote: Do you like Kellymilkies being a Code A caster?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



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B-Wong
Profile Joined October 2010
United States240 Posts
February 18 2011 06:35 GMT
#2
She's hilarious. I don't see why not have her as a caster
Don't even pay attention to the analysis, she's hilarious to listen to.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
February 18 2011 06:37 GMT
#3
Wow... 85 votes in 3 minutes.
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StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
February 18 2011 06:37 GMT
#4
I understand that Kelly isn't the best commentator and personally I don't think shes the best choice but this just seems mean-spirited. Shouldn't we at least give her a shot?
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busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
February 18 2011 06:37 GMT
#5
I think it's great, especially if she gets to cast with artosis/tasteless, could make for a good combo
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
February 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#6
Unprofessional? where is the basis for that?
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
February 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#7
I don't like my commentators being females. I feel that esports is mainly a man sport so it seems wrong to have a female caster.

Also, it is harder for me to take a woman seriously, if she is talking about video games. I could see her in a supporting role for a male caster, though, but being in charge is a no-no.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
February 18 2011 06:39 GMT
#8
On February 18 2011 15:38 village_idiot wrote:
I don't like my commentators being females. I feel that esports is mainly a man sport so it seems wrong to have a female caster.

Also, it is harder for me to take a woman seriously, if she is talking about video games. I could see her in a supporting role for a male caster, though, but being in charge is a no-no.


Please be sarcasm. Please.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 18 2011 06:40 GMT
#9
On February 18 2011 15:38 Blaec wrote:
Unprofessional? where is the basis for that?


She twittered that she was chosen as a Code A caster before GOM made the official announcement. There were other instances that people pointed out in the other threads.
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
February 18 2011 06:40 GMT
#10
Aren't they better just keeping the Stemkoski girl as the commentator? She has full knowledge of the game and superb analytical ability compared to this new caster. Doesn't Kellymilkies have problems articulating certain lines? If she's being hired to make it a 3 person job, it might be interesting... The two girls who cast for Code S segment along with Kellymilkies?
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
February 18 2011 06:40 GMT
#11
how is being female a pro
it should not be a pro or a con because it has nothing to do with casting
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
February 18 2011 06:40 GMT
#12
You should probably keep this stuff in the GSL thread about it. This is going to turn into a flame war, I don't see it ending well.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
February 18 2011 06:41 GMT
#13
On February 18 2011 15:33 ptbl wrote:
GOM announced that Kellymilkies will rotate with a duo cast of Kelly and Artosis or Kelly and Tasteless for the Code A matches.

No they didn't.

And I think there's been enough Kelly bashing for the past few days, even though I'm not a fan of her myself.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 18 2011 06:41 GMT
#14
There should really be a middle option for those who just want to wait and find out. I'll even give her the first week without criticism till she adjusts a bit. I'm not confident enough to vote yes or no either way so I have to abstain.
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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 18 2011 06:42 GMT
#15
On February 18 2011 15:40 awu25 wrote:
how is being female a pro
it should not be a pro or a con because it has nothing to do with casting


These are the arguments that the pro side have been making. I am just listing the main arguments for and against kellymilkies being a Code A caster. I am not passing judgement on the pros nor the cons, just summarizing what others are saying.
Don't mind me
internaut
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada23 Posts
February 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#16
Maybe the guy in the original post likes looking at / listening to girls. It's pretty subjective though. I voted yes because it's nice to have a new face casting the games.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 18 2011 06:44 GMT
#17
On February 18 2011 15:41 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 15:33 ptbl wrote:
GOM announced that Kellymilkies will rotate with a duo cast of Kelly and Artosis or Kelly and Tasteless for the Code A matches.

No they didn't.

And I think there's been enough Kelly bashing for the past few days, even though I'm not a fan of her myself.


http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors2/news/60968

From GOM's Sam
For now half of Code A will be Kelly + Tasteless and the other half will be Kelly + Artosis.

We will update you guys with any changes that might be made (of course for the better and not for the worse).
Don't mind me
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
February 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#18
Pros
Female
Starcraft player
Has casting experience
A fresh face
New perspective


Female is kind of negated for me, that kind of thing shouldn't really matter lol.
You would assume any caster would play sc2 so that they know whats actually going on. A fresh face and new perspective could be said about any other person that were to be hired.

The only thing that I see as a pro for her on that list is that she's had 4-5 years casting experience according to what GOM posted.
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
February 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#19
On February 18 2011 15:40 awu25 wrote:
how is being female a pro
it should not be a pro or a con because it has nothing to do with casting


It could show that maybe it isn't the stereotypical, only guys play and like video games argument? Allowing more girls who play video games not to feel so overwhelmed thinking that no other girls play. Obviously FragDolls has been helping out, but more girls who have knowledge of the game able to cast would eventually break the stigma that most guys have for girl gamers these days.
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Toxiferous
Profile Joined June 2009
United States388 Posts
February 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#20
I honestly can't understand a word she says. I hope she works on her enunciation and English in general, for her own sake O:
Rialz
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil177 Posts
February 18 2011 06:49 GMT
#21
I wouldn't consider being female a Pro.

Gender makes no difference whatsoever, casting (and speaking) skill does.

Well, atleast in my opinion.
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
February 18 2011 06:50 GMT
#22
Mostly No
I'll re-post my opinion(from the other thread) on the matter:

This decision by Gom somewhat disappoints me.

For those crying "racism!" I seriously couldn't care less about the accent. I just expect a GSL caster to have more knowledge about SC2, I'd be just as disappointed if someone like Husky or TotalBiscuit was casting (I do not mean to bash, they are not necessarily bad casters I just feel like a major tournament like the GSL should have very high quality casting).

To be honest i almost feel like (if possible) major tournament casting should be reserved for former and current pro's as well as people who have really proven that they understand sc2. I mean it's obvious that not everyone can be Artosis or Day9, but poor quality casting is not going to help Starcraft 2 grow as an e-sport.

I'll give this a chance though, I sincerely hope I am not disappointed.
Goodseed
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)270 Posts
February 18 2011 06:51 GMT
#23
You get a cookie for understanding her even a little.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
February 18 2011 06:51 GMT
#24
I think there's been enough speculation already. If you want to discuss the merits of her casting, please reserve judgment until after the first Code A cast or use one of the many existing threads.
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