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paperhat
Profile Joined October 2010
United States4 Posts
February 26 2011 18:19 GMT
#141
Silly question,

Which one of these keyboards would work well with the Macintosh?

I kind of want to get an ADB to USB adapter just so I can use my old Apple Extended Keyboard, but it doesn't exactly match anything I have now

PaperHat
I love the Zerg!
dens0n
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany30 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 18:30:31
February 26 2011 18:28 GMT
#142
Ordered a Zowie as well after I sent the 6gv2 back, didn't really like the feel of the keys.
Actually I wanted to get a Filco, but it's 40 Euro more expansive than the Zowie here in Germany and it's not even available with German layout right now ( If I pay so much for a keyboard it better have German layout ^^ )
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
March 01 2011 00:59 GMT
#143
Filco is now distributed by Amazon
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JasperGrimm
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 01:29:38
March 01 2011 01:28 GMT
#144
I'm also using the 6g, so far its a great keyboard. The only thing I dont really like is the position of the "\" key, but its not really a big deal. I play both sc2 and a ton of different shooters, and I absolutely love the feel of the keys.... you can often find it on sale at ncix... I also LOVE the fact that theres no windows key, and instead it has the multimedia key... I cant even being to explain how awesome this is for people who like to play music as they play games.
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
March 01 2011 01:45 GMT
#145
On March 01 2011 09:59 krazymunky wrote:
Filco is now distributed by Amazon

If anyones confused, just making sure people know that keyboard isn't sold by Amazon, its sold by The Keyboard Company in the UK. They simply shipped their inventory to Amazon for Amazon to fulfill the order processing and delivering of the product.

http://www.keyboardco.com/

That being said, that is amazing, a Filco for $150, and eligible for Amazon Prime.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
March 01 2011 02:25 GMT
#146
Omggg I was just about to get the ugly DAS for $105 after student discount. Filcos are so sexy that this is tempting, gahh
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
March 01 2011 02:35 GMT
#147
On March 01 2011 11:25 waxypants wrote:
Omggg I was just about to get the ugly DAS for $105 after student discount. Filcos are so sexy that this is tempting, gahh


They still have Filcos in stock over at PCHome. Assuming they still do the discounted shipping, it's going to be some 20 or 30 USD cheaper than ordering straight from Amazon (even with Amazon's super saver shipping) and arrive at the same time a shipment from Amazon would.

But it's your decision, of course. Geekhack has a nice guide posted on buying from PCHome earlier in the thread if you want a Filco. I have one and it's amazing; I absolutely love it.
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
March 01 2011 02:58 GMT
#148
PCHome appears to be out of stock. All links to Filco boards just go to the main homepage :/
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 03:40:54
March 01 2011 03:39 GMT
#149
On March 01 2011 11:25 waxypants wrote:
Omggg I was just about to get the ugly DAS for $105 after student discount. Filcos are so sexy that this is tempting, gahh


I don't think its ugly. The Keycabs/finish on the Das keys is probably slightly less durable than that of the Filcos (Or so I hear). And the only glossy parts of my Das take literally 20 seconds to wipe off if I get a finger print on it or it just gets dusty. That and Filco has a Tenkeyless board which is nice. Its probably worth the extra $50 (Or $25), but I don't think the switches will be any different.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
March 01 2011 04:40 GMT
#150
On March 01 2011 11:58 waxypants wrote:
PCHome appears to be out of stock. All links to Filco boards just go to the main homepage :/


Ouch... they were still in stock when I posted that.

Looks like the only option as far as North America goes are Armygroup, Keyboardco, and the Amazon link posted earlier.

I'd still say get a Filco if you can't wait for the Leopold keyboards to come out from EK. A couple of reasons why some would choose the Leopolds over the Filco are the Leopolds have better keycaps, detachable USB cable, and (supposedly) cheaper price.
Archduke
Profile Joined May 2010
United States119 Posts
March 01 2011 04:55 GMT
#151
The Steel Series 7g is a ballin' keyboard. Don't listen to whiners who say the keys are too heavy. Also, the wrist rest looks obnoxious, but it's really comfortable; it's the absolute perfect shape.
"Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines."
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
March 01 2011 05:27 GMT
#152
DAS don't look too bad, I just prefer the super simple and rock solid look of the Filcos. Not a huge fan of shiny/flashy things. I'll probably just wait for the Leopolds and see how those are. It's annoying that I first read about them in Jan. and at that time they said they were coming in late Jan/early Feb and now it's March -_-
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
March 01 2011 05:32 GMT
#153
Got a Filco tenkeyless with cherry mx brown switches in the mail from PChome! I'm pretttty excited. Was going to wait for leopolds to arrive at elitekeyboards but they had their shipment delayed or something and PChome had a relatively good deal.
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
March 03 2011 06:02 GMT
#154
In case anyone is wondering, the Leopolds will only be Tenkeyless when they finally get to EK. They might get full-size like a month later I was told. I was waiting for the Leopolds but I didn't know that, I'm not really interested in Tenkeyless.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
March 03 2011 06:26 GMT
#155
On March 03 2011 15:02 waxypants wrote:
In case anyone is wondering, the Leopolds will only be Tenkeyless when they finally get to EK. They might get full-size like a month later I was told. I was waiting for the Leopolds but I didn't know that, I'm not really interested in Tenkeyless.

The good thing is, they're only a hundred bucks, not including shipping.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Royalcommand
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)189 Posts
March 03 2011 06:37 GMT
#156
On February 25 2011 08:20 Noorgrin wrote:
bought a used "Das Keyboard II" (Cherry MX blues) for 20€ from a colleague of mine.

just cleaned it, works great :D

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omfg i have the exact same set up as you... dkt mousepad and mx518!
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
March 03 2011 09:28 GMT
#157
On March 03 2011 15:26 triangle wrote:
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On March 03 2011 15:02 waxypants wrote:
In case anyone is wondering, the Leopolds will only be Tenkeyless when they finally get to EK. They might get full-size like a month later I was told. I was waiting for the Leopolds but I didn't know that, I'm not really interested in Tenkeyless.

The good thing is, they're only a hundred bucks, not including shipping.


The link to their Leopold selection is up now:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold

I don't think anyone looking for a great mechanical keyboard with awesome quality will be able to resist 120~ USD with shipping.

Absolutely love, love, love this.
jtl4
Profile Joined November 2010
6 Posts
March 03 2011 10:16 GMT
#158
Sorry for replying so late, but there was too much BS in this post too

On February 07 2011 05:57 Cel.erity wrote:
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On February 07 2011 03:17 Phayze wrote:
I would not get a 6gv2 for rts games. Idra does use one sure, but sponsorships lol.
Jinro uses black widow.

And termit, if you are a very competetive player, the 6gv2 key's are very hard to press, requiring double the activation force of brown switches. They are also linear and have to be pushed almost all the way down, while blues and browns actually activate half way. This is great for touch typing which someone with very high apm will be using. You want to put the least amount of stress on your fingers as carpal tunnel and the ulnar nerve plague professional gamers. With that said it might not make the biggest difference, but i take my hands very seriously and I dont want keys that are hard to press.

I also personally find the black switches unusable. It's too hard to press and you have to bottom out the key. I returned a 6gv2 a while back and stuck with my dt35 until I got the black widow. With the blackwidow or with blues you need half the force to actuate the key and it makes a click half way down.


So much bs in this post I don't even know where to begin. First of all, blacks do not require "double" the activation force of browns. Browns are 45g and blacks are 60g. Blues are 50g actuation, but require 60g to get over the tactile bump so they're not much different than blacks. The force required to bottom out on browns and blues is also 60g, so if you're gaming or otherwise bottoming out your keys, you're not going to notice any difference. As for bottoming out, the blacks are actually harder to bottom out because of the linear force required, as opposed to a tactile switch like blues which will have less resistance after the click is felt.


Browns actuate at 45g, blacks at 60g and blues at 50g. You got that part right. But what you actually missed that bottoming requires 55g, 80g and 60g, respectively. So bottoming a linear might feel a bit harder because IT IS HARDER. As for "gaming", I don't bottom out my keys unless I'm playing an FPS game. Some keyboard manufacturers (like SteelSeries) like to say that gaming means bottoming out because they want to sell their keyboards. Bottoming out keys at 200APM would be a huge waste, whereas bottoming in an FPS is not a huge deal since you usually hold the keys down for a while.

On February 07 2011 05:57 Cel.erity wrote:
Additionally, you feel the click of blues before they actuate, which can lead to you thinking you hit a key but actually didn't, so you have to bottom out more than normal. That is why, for function, browns and blacks are superior to blues, but a lot of people like the clicky feel.


This is the biggest point in your post I'm having problems with. I have a keyboard with Cherry MX Blue switches, and at some point I spent about 5 minutes *deliberately* trying to make a key click without actuating it. You know what happened? I failed. It is pretty obvious you've never used a keyboard with blue switches for a longer period of time.

On February 07 2011 05:57 Cel.erity wrote:There is nothing at all wrong with typing on blacks if you have naturally forceful fingers as I do. Also, for gaming, it feels so great to have no bumps and no accidental keypresses, and you can double-tap much faster than with other keys due to the stronger spring.


What I really love about the Brown switches in RTS games is that they only need a very small amount of force to actuate, but still have a small tactile bump so you actually feel when you actuate a key. Also, contrary to your findings, I find double-tapping on browns easier.

On February 07 2011 05:57 Cel.erity wrote:I would highly advise a serious gamer to look at either browns or blacks depending on your preference, and only buy blues if you really like the tactile response.


I would highly advise people to test out different switches for longer periods of time before buying. But if you really want to buy a keyboard without trying, don't buy blacks if you ever plan on typing or playing RTS games with your new keyboard. I wrote a longer post on Blues vs. Browns in another thread, people can find it there if they're having a hard time deciding between those two.

Just my $0.02.
Noorgrin
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 11:04:26
March 03 2011 11:03 GMT
#159
On March 03 2011 15:37 Royalcommand wrote:
omfg i have the exact same set up as you... dkt mousepad and mx518!


using a Razer Abyssus now, i felt like the MX518 is to big and heavy for playing Starcraft... i bought it when i was still playing FPS games with a very low mouse sense... feels better now for Starcraft with that faster and less weight mouse :D

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user111
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada47 Posts
March 03 2011 12:55 GMT
#160
blackwidow ultimate!
it has blue lights!
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