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United States22883 Posts
On January 03 2011 16:09 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 16:07 Jibba wrote:On January 03 2011 15:51 dtz wrote:
i think it's a valid point to consider personality if it is titled E-Sportsman of the year or something.
Kinda like if some guy is having a scandal, he won't be Sportsman of the Year or the equivalent in ESPY.
but Best Non-Korean of the Year definitely refers to a player in terms of skill and thus it is stupid to exclude IdrA. Barry Bonds got 3 ESPYs, along with his 6 MVPs. It's also pretty ridiculous that SEn, Loner and Brat_OK aren't on that list. I don't think Loner or Brat_OK deserve it though, in terms of accomplishments this year, nor does Sen. They could be the better players, but accomplishments wise, they nailed most of the players, minus Idra.
I wouldn't vote for them, but they deserve mention on that list, certainly more than a few people who were on it.
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disappointed in not including idra... = /
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On January 03 2011 16:10 CalmDown.Breathe wrote:By #92 Everlast of GG.net + Show Spoiler +Guys IdrA signed up for the Holiday special, qualified for final 8 but then in pure calculated spite against GG.net, he showed up to let us know he was not going to play. We´re not saying he´s not a good player, or maybe even the greatest, but if you´re here to spoil the hard work that we´re putting in for free for you guys (in fact spending €500 on in addition to hard work) then you do not deserve to be on the list. It´s that simple. He´s banned from GG.net, both as a user and as a player. He was not before he pulled that stunt. So he´s disqualified from all considerations and its just as simple as that, please accept it and either vote on the other guys and write it off as the non-idra awards or dont, its your free choice as human beings  lol so he's saying IdrA wasn't banned before the tourney but he is now. Don't think IdrA would throw away free money. "pure calculated spite against GG.net"... if thats true, i'm curious as to why he would be so spiteful.
claiming idra just signed up and qualified to "hurt" them by forfeiting sounds pretty damn stupid...
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On January 03 2011 15:55 mdb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 15:21 Kennigit wrote:
Sorry, if you don't include one of the most accomplished players of the entire year because he was BM then your award has zero credibility imo. How can you call an award "Best Non-Korean" and then include reasoning that has nothing to do with his merit, skill or accomplishments...Call it "The All Round Nice Guy And Decent Player Award". No doubt imo that Idra was the best player of the last year and because of this he is a prime example for a lot of people, not only with the way he plays, but with the way he acts too. Its not fun for me that in the half of the games I play on b.net2 I`m told to "fuck off", "die" or "my family to get aids". A little bit of well thought and smart BM is always good for the game, but cursing the people you play leads to nowhere, thats why I think that Gosugamers descision is not made without any reason.
I'm all for the merits of karma -- if you're going to dish it out, expect people to dish it back -- what makes this hilarious is how Gosugamers handled this situation.
No one's forcing Gosugamers to give IdrA an award. But having a open poll for the best Non-Korean player and not including IdrA makes them look ... well, dumb as rocks.
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On January 03 2011 16:10 CalmDown.Breathe wrote:By #92 Everlast of GG.net + Show Spoiler +Guys IdrA signed up for the Holiday special, qualified for final 8 but then in pure calculated spite against GG.net, he showed up to let us know he was not going to play. We´re not saying he´s not a good player, or maybe even the greatest, but if you´re here to spoil the hard work that we´re putting in for free for you guys (in fact spending €500 on in addition to hard work) then you do not deserve to be on the list. It´s that simple. He´s banned from GG.net, both as a user and as a player. He was not before he pulled that stunt. So he´s disqualified from all considerations and its just as simple as that, please accept it and either vote on the other guys and write it off as the non-idra awards or dont, its your free choice as human beings lol so he's saying IdrA wasn't banned before the tourney but he is now. Don't think IdrA would throw away free money. "pure calculated spite against GG.net"... if thats true, i'm curious as to why he would be so spiteful.
Someone is obviously lying.
Is this Idra on GG?
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/members/IdrA
Warnings
Personal Harrassment @ 3 years ago
Insulting member. @ 3 years ago
Insulting staff. @ 3 years ago
2nd time insulting staff - 2 weeks lock @ 3 years ago
2 accounts - extended to 1 month lock @ 3 years ago
trolling news. perm lock. @ 2 years ago
Looks like he doesn't have the most pleasant history there.
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On January 03 2011 16:15 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 16:10 CalmDown.Breathe wrote:By #92 Everlast of GG.net + Show Spoiler +Guys IdrA signed up for the Holiday special, qualified for final 8 but then in pure calculated spite against GG.net, he showed up to let us know he was not going to play. We´re not saying he´s not a good player, or maybe even the greatest, but if you´re here to spoil the hard work that we´re putting in for free for you guys (in fact spending €500 on in addition to hard work) then you do not deserve to be on the list. It´s that simple. He´s banned from GG.net, both as a user and as a player. He was not before he pulled that stunt. So he´s disqualified from all considerations and its just as simple as that, please accept it and either vote on the other guys and write it off as the non-idra awards or dont, its your free choice as human beings lol so he's saying IdrA wasn't banned before the tourney but he is now. Don't think IdrA would throw away free money. "pure calculated spite against GG.net"... if thats true, i'm curious as to why he would be so spiteful. Someone is obviously lying. Is this Idra on GG? http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/members/IdrAWarnings Personal Harrassment @ 3 years ago Insulting member. @ 3 years ago Insulting staff. @ 3 years ago 2nd time insulting staff - 2 weeks lock @ 3 years ago 2 accounts - extended to 1 month lock @ 3 years ago trolling news. perm lock. @ 2 years ago Looks like he doesn't have the most pleasant history there.
According to Idra's post earlier in the thread, he says that he was ALREADY banned from GG.net, and forfeited the tournament because of it. Now, trolling or not by Idra (as that's a pretty level-headed decision, especially considering there is money on the line and just doing it to "irritate GG.net" as they claim is a bold statement), taking him off an OPEN POLL for Best Player is such poor taste.
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On January 03 2011 16:10 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 15:55 mdb wrote:On January 03 2011 15:21 Kennigit wrote:
Sorry, if you don't include one of the most accomplished players of the entire year because he was BM then your award has zero credibility imo. How can you call an award "Best Non-Korean" and then include reasoning that has nothing to do with his merit, skill or accomplishments...Call it "The All Round Nice Guy And Decent Player Award". No doubt imo that Idra was the best player of the last year and because of this he is a prime example for a lot of people, not only with the way he plays, but with the way he acts too. Its not fun for me that in the half of the games I play on b.net2 I`m told to "fuck off", "die" or "my family to get aids". A little bit of well thought and smart BM is always good for the game, but cursing the people you play leads to nowhere, thats why I think that Gosugamers descision is not made without any reason. Just so people remember, the first "pro" to say "get cancer and die" in a public tournament was Naniwa to Moman. 
Kevin Garnett called Charlie Villanueva a cancer patient. Some guy (forgive me europeans) insulted Zidane's sister or family or w/e... and was given a headbutt. The whole pittsburg steeler team is considered to be dirty. And yet they're still the best (or were the best) at what they do. BM doesn't mean they're any less good (:
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IdrA is definately the most accomplished player of 2010.
Then goes bratOK imo.
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On January 03 2011 16:15 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 16:10 CalmDown.Breathe wrote:By #92 Everlast of GG.net + Show Spoiler +Guys IdrA signed up for the Holiday special, qualified for final 8 but then in pure calculated spite against GG.net, he showed up to let us know he was not going to play. We´re not saying he´s not a good player, or maybe even the greatest, but if you´re here to spoil the hard work that we´re putting in for free for you guys (in fact spending €500 on in addition to hard work) then you do not deserve to be on the list. It´s that simple. He´s banned from GG.net, both as a user and as a player. He was not before he pulled that stunt. So he´s disqualified from all considerations and its just as simple as that, please accept it and either vote on the other guys and write it off as the non-idra awards or dont, its your free choice as human beings lol so he's saying IdrA wasn't banned before the tourney but he is now. Don't think IdrA would throw away free money. "pure calculated spite against GG.net"... if thats true, i'm curious as to why he would be so spiteful. Someone is obviously lying. Is this Idra on GG? http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/members/IdrAWarnings Personal Harrassment @ 3 years ago Insulting member. @ 3 years ago Insulting staff. @ 3 years ago 2nd time insulting staff - 2 weeks lock @ 3 years ago 2 accounts - extended to 1 month lock @ 3 years ago trolling news. perm lock. @ 2 years ago Looks like he doesn't have the most pleasant history there.
hes really perma banned from tourneys over forum posts? thats redic... 2 years ago none the less....
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Russian Federation899 Posts
On January 03 2011 16:09 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 16:07 Jibba wrote:On January 03 2011 15:51 dtz wrote:
i think it's a valid point to consider personality if it is titled E-Sportsman of the year or something.
Kinda like if some guy is having a scandal, he won't be Sportsman of the Year or the equivalent in ESPY.
but Best Non-Korean of the Year definitely refers to a player in terms of skill and thus it is stupid to exclude IdrA. Barry Bonds got 3 ESPYs, along with his 6 MVPs. It's also pretty ridiculous that SEn, Loner and Brat_OK aren't on that list. I don't think Loner or Brat_OK deserve it though, in terms of accomplishments this year, nor does Sen. They could be the better players, but accomplishments wise, they nailed most of the players, minus Idra.
I can agree that brat_ok doesn't deserve but purely thanks to the awesomecausity of european embassies ' work in russia ;D
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On January 03 2011 15:21 Kennigit wrote:
Sorry, if you don't include one of the most accomplished players of the entire year because he was BM then your award has zero credibility imo. How can you call an award "Best Non-Korean" and then include reasoning that has nothing to do with his merit, skill or accomplishments...Call it "The All Round Nice Guy And Decent Player Award".
So true. When I read this, I got pretty peeved.
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No non-Korean asians either :[
Taiwanese pride!
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On January 03 2011 16:10 Jibba wrote:Just so people remember, the first "pro" to say "get cancer and die" in a public tournament was Naniwa to Moman.
Laughed out loud. Co-worker was like, "what the fuck?"
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really pathetic and unprofessional, why does your tournament affect this award voted on by the community? not to mention he is easily in the top class of non koreans. He may or may not deserve it on performance but to exclude him entirely is ridiculous. I was going to vote for jinro but I'm boycotting this instead.
I know Im just regurgitating the same rage everyone else is but hopefully GG.net will pay attention to the numbers displeased with this. I have also stopped following them on twitter.
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If its true I really think Idra would deserve it. Trolling his way to the final 8 and then like "I'm Idra, I'm perma banned here" then leaves just is a genius way to improve your bad ass status.
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GosuGamers i have a question : What does manner have to do with skill ?
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On January 03 2011 16:10 CalmDown.Breathe wrote:By #92 Everlast of GG.net + Show Spoiler +Guys IdrA signed up for the Holiday special, qualified for final 8 but then in pure calculated spite against GG.net, he showed up to let us know he was not going to play. We´re not saying he´s not a good player, or maybe even the greatest, but if you´re here to spoil the hard work that we´re putting in for free for you guys (in fact spending €500 on in addition to hard work) then you do not deserve to be on the list. It´s that simple. He´s banned from GG.net, both as a user and as a player. He was not before he pulled that stunt. So he´s disqualified from all considerations and its just as simple as that, please accept it and either vote on the other guys and write it off as the non-idra awards or dont, its your free choice as human beings lol so he's saying IdrA wasn't banned before the tourney but he is now. Don't think IdrA would throw away free money. "pure calculated spite against GG.net"... if thats true, i'm curious as to why he would be so spiteful.
What a joke.
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The outrage over idras exclusion is absurd. It already excludes the entire korean nation... so OBVIOUSLY its authenticity or prestige is not based on pure skill. They are consistent in whatever arbitrary thing it is they are awarding here.
As an aside, extreme arrogance hinders progress - there are no arrogant bonjwas in anything (even in boxing its just veneer). Humility gives you clarity of perspective and motivation to improve. So maybe his bm is grounds for disqualification anyway.
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On January 03 2011 15:21 Kennigit wrote:
Sorry, if you don't include one of the most accomplished players of the entire year because he was BM then your award has zero credibility imo. How can you call an award "Best Non-Korean" and then include reasoning that has nothing to do with his merit, skill or accomplishments...Call it "The All Round Nice Guy And Decent Player Award".
This is pretty much it. This "Best Non-Korean" award is crap. How professional of them.
On January 03 2011 16:51 samuraibael wrote:
The outrage over idras exclusion is absurd. It already excludes the entire korean nation... so OBVIOUSLY its authenticity or prestige is not based on pure skill. They are consistent in whatever arbitrary thing it is they are awarding here.
As an aside, extreme arrogance hinders progress - there are no arrogant bonjwas in anything (even in boxing its just veneer). Humility gives you clarity of perspective and motivation to improve. So maybe his bm is grounds for disqualification anyway.
You are an idiot. Ali is arrogant because he can back it up. Same thing with Mayweather. Jesus. Arrogance does not disqualify the person's skill specially in an award for "Best Non-Korean"; which is why your reasoning of the whole Korean community being excluded is idiotic.
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On January 03 2011 16:51 samuraibael wrote:
The outrage over idras exclusion is absurd. It already excludes the entire korean nation... so OBVIOUSLY its authenticity or prestige is not based on pure skill. They are consistent in whatever arbitrary thing it is they are awarding here.
As an aside, extreme arrogance hinders progress - there are no arrogant bonjwas in anything (even in boxing its just veneer). Humility gives you clarity of perspective and motivation to improve. So maybe his bm is grounds for disqualification anyway.
But it's called the best non-korean.
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