EPTGG.net Best Non-Korean 2010 - Page 6
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
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lethal111
Canada460 Posts
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xza
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On January 03 2011 16:18 CalmDown.Breathe wrote: Kevin Garnett called Charlie Villanueva a cancer patient.... He claims that he called CV "a cancer to this team" (or league, I can't remember). If he's telling the truth (and I believe him), it's a very different thing to say than to call CV "a cancer patient". In one case you're calling a guy out on his poor attitude, in the other, you're delivering a personal attack. Given his condition, it's also obvious how CV could take the comment out of context and complain about it. | ||
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
Edit: And after reading the thread more thoroughly, IdrA wasn't even BM to you guys so it's basically just unnecessary drama. | ||
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LynxKerr
Canada173 Posts
Play the game, have fun and swear at someone every so often just to make yourself realize you're still alive. Anyways, IdrA and Jinro are a tie for me. | ||
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Antiochus
Canada548 Posts
P.S. I didn't include Flash for arbitrary reasons. | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On January 03 2011 17:10 LynxKerr wrote: Why are gaming communities so god damn soft? Bunch of scallywags waving their tails around sometimes. If IdrA is cussing at you online tell him to suck your D, play when you want him too, and if he doesn't he's out and you forget about it. One dude gets angry during a tournament (read: Naniwa) and everyone is up and arms and the community is just shitting their drawers for weeks about it. Seriously. And then they come in and compare it to some sport, but botch the comparison so badly that you are absolutely positive they've never watched sports in their life. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On January 03 2011 15:07 FuryX wrote: No Sen either....aside from Huk, everyone on the list is European. Idk what list you look at, what you linked has Fenix, Qxc, Huk as non-europeans. Chineese were considered non-foreigners in BW, probably that's the reason, or that Sen didnt win anything, he did very well and i like him, but objectively i might not include him in a top 10 of the years anyways. On January 03 2011 15:21 Kennigit wrote: Sorry, if you don't include one of the most accomplished players of the entire year because he was BM then your award has zero credibility imo. How can you call an award "Best Non-Korean" and then include reasoning that has nothing to do with his merit, skill or accomplishments...Call it "The All Round Nice Guy And Decent Player Award". For those defending Idra, i totally can understand throwing him off from the list. Bad behaviour can get you banned/excluded from tournaments and leauges, why couldnt it get you excluded from a reviewing article? I'm especially surprised TL admins posting in Idra's defence, you banned players like Dimaga for a small (and somewhat explainable) cheat in a BW event for a long time from every TL event. It's the same logic. When Naniwa gets his ass banned from ESL and whatnot for bad behaviour, most of TL is like, yeah, totally deserved it, Idra getting excluded from a symbolic power ranking, or what should i call it, causes outrage. I love Idra, i think he's the best foreigner skil-wise, i wanted to state that | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
LOL@IdrA - this is good dude needs to learn his personality will wreck him IRL and at 80lbs even worse. | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On January 03 2011 17:17 Geo.Rion wrote: Idk what list you look at, what you linked has Fenix, Qxc, Huk as non-europeans. Chineese were considered non-foreigners in BW, probably that's the reason, or that Sen didnt win anything, he did very well and i like him, but objectively i might not include him in a top 10 of the years anyways. For those defending Idra, i totally can understand throwing him off from the list. Bad behaviour can get you banned/excluded from tournaments and leauges, why couldnt it get you excluded from a reviewing article? I'm especially surprised TL admins posting in Idra's defence, you banned players like Dimaga for a small (and somewhat explainable) cheat in a BW event for a long time from every TL event. It's the same logic. When Naniwa gets his ass banned from ESL and whatnot for bad behaviour, most of TL is like, yeah, totally deserved it, Idra getting excluded from a symbolic power ranking, or what should i call it, causes outrage. I love Idra, i think he's the best foreigner skil-wise, i wanted to state that If you can't see the difference in getting banned for something you said and getting banned for cheating, then I can see why you have some confusion over the issue. | ||
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sc2lime
Canada513 Posts
On January 03 2011 17:17 Geo.Rion wrote: Idk what list you look at, what you linked has Fenix, Qxc, Huk as non-europeans. Chineese were considered non-foreigners in BW, probably that's the reason, or that Sen didnt win anything, he did very well and i like him, but objectively i might not include him in a top 10 of the years anyways. For those defending Idra, i totally can understand throwing him off from the list. Bad behaviour can get you banned/excluded from tournaments and leauges, why couldnt it get you excluded from a reviewing article? I'm especially surprised TL admins posting in Idra's defence, you banned players like Dimaga for a small (and somewhat explainable) cheat in a BW event for a long time from every TL event. It's the same logic. When Naniwa gets his ass banned from ESL and whatnot for bad behaviour, most of TL is like, yeah, totally deserved it, Idra getting excluded from a symbolic power ranking, or what should i call it, causes outrage. I love Idra, i think he's the best foreigner skil-wise, i wanted to state that You are also an idiot and your logic is stupid. Savior did that whole match-fixing scandal but you can't deny that at one point, he was a bonjwa. Just because Idra may seem bad-mannered, you can't deny his skill that some people believe qualifies him to this "award". And regarding Naniwa, it wasn't a matter of whether or not he is the "best Non-Korean". It was a matter of him missing his games so how does this relate to an award? | ||
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Looky
United States1608 Posts
kinda dumb not to add him on the list | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On January 03 2011 17:21 sc2lime wrote: You are also an idiot and your logic is stupid. Savior did that whole match-fixing scandal but you can't deny that at one point, he was a bonjwa. Just because Idra may seem bad-mannered, you can't deny his skill that some people believe qualifies him to this "award". yes, your argumenst own. "You are an idiot, your arguments are stupid, cool."-standard posting gotta say lately. I'm not saying cheating and BM is the same. I'm saying if organizers witheld the right to exclude players for bad behaviour be that ignorance towards rule, BM, cheating, arrogance, whatever, they are justified to do so. If you accept Dimaga not participating in TSL3 sc2, for breaking the rules in a BW event a year ago, because it's the rule of the organizers, and you dont accept Idra getting excluded for being disrespectful and bm in a show-tournament because that's how the organizers ruled, your logic is flown imo. about savior, i would really like to know how koreans percieve him after the scandal, i havent really heard much praise about him since, i might not be surprised if korean community excluded him from the bonjwa leauge, though i have no idea whatsoever how they treat the subject actually, just guessing here. | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2609 Posts
go IdrA go! (I think that TeamLiquid should not go for his own "Best Player of the Year"-contest, it would not be a nice move imho [tho a understable one^^] ;/ I just hope GosuGamers realizes their fault and add IdrA to their list.) | ||
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Skrelt
Netherlands306 Posts
Idra is, imo, the best. dont care what others think of him ^^ | ||
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Regime
Australia185 Posts
WE ALL LOVE SC2 | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On January 03 2011 17:30 Regime wrote: WOW all the idra flamers now flaming ggnet. guys u gotta read why ggnet didnt include him plus its their site they can do wat they want. i voted for TLO and would have even if idra was there. idra did waste there ggnet's time got nothing against idra hes very entertaining to watch specially wen he flames "your terran shut up" :D but i think TLnet should close this GGnet would close ne thread bming TLnet WE ALL LOVE SC2 Teamliquid wouldn't make a poll titled best non-korean of the year then exclude the best player of the year (top 3 if you want to argue, whatever) so your argument is invalid. Ggnet banned idra, if he'd won the competition they'd probably use that as an excuse not to pay the prize money. considering he was banned so long ago its fairly understandable he wouldn't remember. And him forfeiting was the only real option at that point. I'm not one of the people who'd go to GG.net and flame your site, but when a site/company/person does something dumb, and someone makes a thread about it on teamliquid, said company/person/site can expect to have their reputation discussed candidly by all the members who choose to contribute to the thread. What did you expect? If ggnet really loved sc2 they'd hold a balanced and fair poll | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
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