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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
November 16 2010 07:35 GMT
#61
If you want to learn how to play Zerg, IdrA is who you want to watch. Having a rock-solid foundation from IdrA will open your options up to really benefit from more dynamic Zergs.
Lanaia is love.
fean0r
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany117 Posts
November 16 2010 07:37 GMT
#62
+ darkforce^^
LeCastor
Profile Joined July 2010
France234 Posts
November 16 2010 08:59 GMT
#63
Now it's Idra but his ZvZ is a little behind. If he improves this matchup, he could compete with koreans.
He is rarely outplayed in a macro game vs Terran or Protoss.

Back in beta it used to be Sen, but his new style of play seems less effective. I think he is less scary now.
ShLiM
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria178 Posts
November 16 2010 09:00 GMT
#64
Nikon
IBASI ZMIQTA
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
November 16 2010 09:02 GMT
#65
ret and Sen
Congism
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Scotland123 Posts
November 16 2010 09:12 GMT
#66
Idra soon to be ret.
LazerApe
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden206 Posts
November 16 2010 09:30 GMT
#67
idrA right now, hes easly the most accomplished foreign Zerg. But starcraft 2 is new game, but the best foreign zerg to date is idrA
MustSeeSC
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
November 16 2010 09:59 GMT
#68
I personally like Madfrog and Sen
"Cry in the Dojo, Laugh in the Battlefield"
Zzang
Profile Joined May 2003
1303 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 10:09:27
November 16 2010 10:02 GMT
#69
In order to objectively* determine who's the 'best' non-korean zerg one must first pick a criteria in which the available player pool must be judged, with the restriction that the particular criteria is most precise in determining overall value of the player. Since "global ELO"(a most rational choice for such criteria) for sc2 does not exist, one must pick another.

Personally, next closest criteria I can think of would be an overall tournament performance, with varying weights placed on each tournament(where "overall difficulty to win or advance as far as possible"** determines the weight of each one). With such criteria in mind the winner is Idra.

However if one picks different criteria, such as "entertainment value", "creativity", "consistency",or others, then best non-Korean zerg might just as well be MadFrog, or any mentioned above.

*- or at least come as close as possible to being purely objective)

** - a lot of variables could be included such as size, prize pool, difficulty of opponents, etc
http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/en/heroes/272999807
DJ Roomba
Profile Joined October 2010
158 Posts
November 16 2010 10:29 GMT
#70
Sen.
ev8
Profile Joined October 2010
United States112 Posts
November 16 2010 10:40 GMT
#71
... You know Koreans are generally better, right?
"where are my uni- what are you - how are you doing? what are you doing?"
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
November 16 2010 10:43 GMT
#72
Oh, I thought this was an unofficial IdrA-fanclub when I read the threadname. Anyway, it's IdrA for sure at the moment, ret and Sen are both great zergs as well (TLO - honorable mention), however I feel these player lack the devotion _compared_ to IdrA. With that said, IdrA will continue to sit firmly on his nr.1 nonkorean zerg spot for a while.
InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
November 16 2010 10:53 GMT
#73
Madfrog is really fun to watch, and quite good.

Add that to what else the thread suggested, I didnt see madfriog.

I like his odd style..
i keep going back to my response to chill's fake PM and laughing, then immediately getting a feeling that i assume i'd get if i had an orgasm and the girl said "hahaha guess what i have a dick" -FakeSteve
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 16 2010 10:54 GMT
#74
Right now: Idra is the best zerg.
When TLO finds his inner zerg again, he'll overthrow Idra.
When ret irons out his weaknesses, he'll overthrow TLO.
When morrow has relearned sc2 from a zerg perspective, he'll overthrow ret.

As far as who to learn from:
Firstly: Learn to play very basic and solid while getting your mechanics and macro up from idra.
Secondly: Learn the tao of zerg, like creep spread, map presence and when to expand from ret.
Lastly: Get entirely new perspectives on zerg from TLO.
Scruff
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore509 Posts
November 16 2010 10:59 GMT
#75
Idra and Sen comes to my mind. Dimaga is probably up there too

Don't think TLO is really up there though considering he just switched.
I astonish myself everyday
ci_esteban
Profile Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
November 16 2010 11:03 GMT
#76
I think the more interesting discussion is who is the best North American zerg (Idra not included obviously....he's KOREAN now). There are obviously good NA zergs but they aren't nearly as dominant or successful as Korean or European zergs so it'd be interesting to see who people think are the top NA zergs.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 16 2010 11:15 GMT
#77
Is this thread seriously going to live, seems like the most useless thread ever.

Gracken is as solid as a zerg can get, GSL 3 times in a row like that?
His only weakness playing against is super unorthodox stuff, he said that himself didn´t he?
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
November 16 2010 11:15 GMT
#78
Beta: Dimaga
Now: Idra
Future: Ret
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
November 16 2010 11:17 GMT
#79
macro based player: i would say IdrA by far.
otherwise, maybe TLO? there isnt that much "good good" zergs atm, and btw i cant forget ret.
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 16 2010 11:22 GMT
#80
Well, a lot of zergs have qualified for gsl3, with many of them being foreigners. So you will have a ton to watch here soon. Sen even streams from time to time, so that would be another great option. Right now in my opinion Sen is probably pretty close to being the top zerg. I believe the hype around Ret to be accurate though, but haven't seen much of his play, I hope I will get to see a lot of games from him in the gsl.
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