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Sky.Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
United States271 Posts
September 16 2010 20:32 GMT
#41
On September 17 2010 04:43 Fa1nT wrote:
A Japanese comes to America and rapes them in super street fighter 4, and everyone loves the Japanese guy (daigo)

An American goes to korea, and koreans dislike him for being a foreigner?


Actually if you were here when BW was popular you would know this was wrong

WHen foreigners went over there, the koreans gave them much respect. Koreans treat their guests very well. The only reason why they wouldnt get treated well is if they were B teamers, and even korean b teamers get treated bad. Thats not being racist on foreigners

Just like Liquid' and oGs (I think thats the name..)

Liquid' has said multiple times how nice the oGs people are to them and how hospitable they are
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
September 16 2010 20:33 GMT
#42
Same concept that the smarty pants in the manner thread skimmed by. Words take on new meanings over time. Perhaps not correct in the formal sense, but understood by the community that uses it.
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Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
September 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#43
I really hate these threads where people that come from outside the Starcraft scene and try to question the lingo that is used in it. Really what you're doing here is taking the word, ignoring the context of it and pointing out how it doesn't make sense... if you don't follow professional Starcraft.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
September 16 2010 20:41 GMT
#44
its not a correct term for sc2.
The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 20:49:18
September 16 2010 20:48 GMT
#45
People can be so ridiculously sensitive...

It's just the lingo in the Starcraft community. And it's not even one that's meant to be derogatory.

Next threads: "Don't call it 'Cheese' Anymore. Call it 'Early Game All-In' " and "Stop yelling 'TLO Fighting!' You're not Korean enough to say it, especially with a Korean accent!"
blitzkrieger
Profile Joined September 2010
United States512 Posts
September 16 2010 20:53 GMT
#46
Starcraft was made by Blizzard, an American company. If anything Koreans are the foreigners playing an American game with English voices, white characters and ZERO Asians. I just think of it as US, Europe, and Korea tbh though. I don't care if Koreans started E-sports or are better at the game its still our game.

Its pretty BM to call people foreigners.

And yeh foreigner is negative just like if you called them aliens. Nobody likes foreigners they cause much inconvenience and irritation. If you say you like foreigners you are a liar because it doesn't matter who you are they will cause irritation and stress esp if they don't integrate and refuse to learn the language. I mean lets take it a step further, who thinks TOURISTS are annoying and they can be from the same State. Amiright? Foreigners are like permanent tourists that spread to where you are everyday and don't just stay in the tourist areas.
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
September 16 2010 20:57 GMT
#47
If you're not a Korean citizen playing Starcraft, you're a foreigner. Don't worry about it there's nothing wrong with that.
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 16 2010 21:00 GMT
#48
foreigners does not have any negative connotations unless you are a racist. look up the definition, this is true.

blitzkrieger: you sound like a sc noob and a racist.

Koreans started the starcraft culture/religion and they can chose to use any terms they like.
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
September 16 2010 21:00 GMT
#49
I really don't see how people can think Koreans calling people not from Korea "Foreigner" can offend someone...

If you go to Korea, and you are not from Korea, yes, you are a foreigner. Would be the same if the SC scene was in the USA or over in Europe.
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 21:03:39
September 16 2010 21:01 GMT
#50
It's StarCraft culture now. It's a term that's been used because eSports have a strong foundation in Korea, not in the Western world.

Geez, why are all these threads popping up suddenly ?

First the one about 'manner', then the one about Koreans "horrified" by BM, and now we have a thread about the term 'foreigner'? Which one is next today? I'm going to guess... Hm. I don't have a good guess.

Edit:


On September 17 2010 05:53 blitzkrieger wrote:
Starcraft was made by Blizzard, an American company. If anything Koreans are the foreigners playing an American game with English voices, white characters and ZERO Asians. I just think of it as US, Europe, and Korea tbh though. I don't care if Koreans started E-sports or are better at the game its still our game.

Its pretty BM to call people foreigners.

And yeh foreigner is negative just like if you called them aliens. Nobody likes foreigners they cause much inconvenience and irritation. If you say you like foreigners you are a liar because it doesn't matter who you are they will cause irritation and stress esp if they don't integrate and refuse to learn the language. I mean lets take it a step further, who thinks TOURISTS are annoying and they can be from the same State. Amiright? Foreigners are like permanent tourists that spread to where you are everyday and don't just stay in the tourist areas.



...Wow..

I think you're an irritating alien to this community.
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The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
September 16 2010 21:03 GMT
#51
On September 17 2010 05:53 blitzkrieger wrote:
Starcraft was made by Blizzard, an American company. If anything Koreans are the foreigners playing an American game with English voices, white characters and ZERO Asians. I just think of it as US, Europe, and Korea tbh though. I don't care if Koreans started E-sports or are better at the game its still our game.

Its pretty BM to call people foreigners.

And yeh foreigner is negative just like if you called them aliens. Nobody likes foreigners they cause much inconvenience and irritation. If you say you like foreigners you are a liar because it doesn't matter who you are they will cause irritation and stress esp if they don't integrate and refuse to learn the language. I mean lets take it a step further, who thinks TOURISTS are annoying and they can be from the same State. Amiright? Foreigners are like permanent tourists that spread to where you are everyday and don't just stay in the tourist areas.


I am a foreigner living in a country outside my original home country, so thanks for that great post. I bet you have a lot of foreign friends.

It's funny how you also said "it's pretty BM to call people foreigners" in the same post.

As blitzkrieger clearly showed us, the people who have problems with the term "foreigner" are primarily the people who view the term in a negative light. He hates foreigners because he is a racist douche so he also hates being called by the same term. Meanwhile, for others, "foreigner" is a just a term, so they're fine with it.
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
September 16 2010 21:04 GMT
#52
On September 17 2010 06:01 Wolf wrote:

First the one about 'manner', then the one about Koreans "horrified" by BM, and now we have a thread about the term 'foreigner'? Which one is next today? I'm going to guess... Hm. I don't have a good guess.




"Should Koreans be banned from SC?" would be my guess =\

I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
September 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#53
Seems like you're making something out of nothing. This lingo has been around for years now, vast majority of the community had no problem with it. It is actually nice to have that everyone against Korea mentality.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 16 2010 21:10 GMT
#54
it's BW history, and no reasonable person has had a problem with it until now, so who cares? just drop it. there's nothing to it until you make something to it.
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
September 16 2010 21:11 GMT
#55
Blitzkrieger you are a racist
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 16 2010 21:12 GMT
#56
Hey man nobody's losing sleep over it. Just thought I should point it out after Tasteless mentioned something about using non-korean instead of foreigner during one of the GSL casts. It just made a lot of sense to me, even though he still occasionally uses foreigner (and stasis.... and dragoon... and sunken when casting sc2 lol)


I watched the same cast, you understood it wrong. this was in context of them not being koreans. so it is technically wrong from their perspective. this was NOT because the word is demeaning or insulting in any sense.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 21:16:59
September 16 2010 21:15 GMT
#57
i wont stop call it foreigner, its nice word and im used to it. u got foreigners and koreans, thats the way it is and always has been with sc ^^
korea deserve to be the core of sc after all they done~ if we manage to get better at them then we can talk about it^^
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palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
September 16 2010 21:17 GMT
#58
On September 17 2010 05:53 blitzkrieger wrote:
Starcraft was made by Blizzard, an American company. If anything Koreans are the foreigners playing an American game with English voices, white characters and ZERO Asians. I just think of it as US, Europe, and Korea tbh though. I don't care if Koreans started E-sports or are better at the game its still our game.

Its pretty BM to call people foreigners.

And yeh foreigner is negative just like if you called them aliens. Nobody likes foreigners they cause much inconvenience and irritation. If you say you like foreigners you are a liar because it doesn't matter who you are they will cause irritation and stress esp if they don't integrate and refuse to learn the language. I mean lets take it a step further, who thinks TOURISTS are annoying and they can be from the same State. Amiright? Foreigners are like permanent tourists that spread to where you are everyday and don't just stay in the tourist areas.


lol, when you think that you have read everything, somebody appears with this kind of post.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27146 Posts
September 16 2010 21:20 GMT
#59
Another example of someone who should take a moment to understand the community they have joined, rather than speaking up and looking like a donk.
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