Mohammed Ali vs Bruce Lee - Page 19

On May 29 2004 12:02 Jim wrote:

jet li is the shit frozenarbitor. I have 15 movies with him and he pawns everyone with amazing skill.

On May 29 2004 12:03 FrozenArbiter wrote:

I had 15 movies with him, and he is an amazing wushu talou artist. Not a fighter -_-;
http://www.jetli.com

On May 29 2004 12:08 inc wrote:



frozen, you suck, almost every swedish person hates you, ok? fuck off

On May 29 2004 12:48 Waxangel wrote:
from my completely objective (good lord, how can I say that with a clear conscience?!) point of view, casper = god

On May 29 2004 10:48 DickDodgers wrote:
Have you guys ever seen mixed martial arts competitions? When have you ever seen anyone jump around and do bruce lee shit? That kind of stuff is FOR THE MOVIES. It comes down to 130 lb man in very good shape vs a 220 lb man in very good shape, both good fighters. Stop worshiping lee as a god, he was a man.

On May 29 2004 14:13 iggs7 wrote:
zerius you are a troll, if you dont know shit about something stfu and leave it to the people who are obviously more informed than you
faggot

On May 29 2004 14:30 [pG]Rekrul wrote:


banned.

On May 29 2004 15:43 NewbSaibot wrote:
Well i had to skip about 500 replies over the last 10 pages from when i slept. And the debate still rages on with what looks to be still, little insight into what actual fighting is all about. There is one critical thing that i havent seen anyone post yet, (keep in mind all the posts i missed), and thats experience. And i mean actual fighting experience. Training will only get you so far, but 90% of the time that all goes out the window once youre actually fighting someone. Your mind panics, you get flustered, the stress of someone trying to do true physical harm to you can be quite overwhelming and next thing you know youre just throwing wild punches and kicks, things you were never taught to, things that only come with instinct.

Ali however would not fall into this trap, his emotions wouldnt break down and become panicky and just start throwin wild punches like an idiot because he's all scared and shit of someone hitting him. Would bruce? Who knows, the man didnt fight for a living! Nobody really knows how many true fights he got into, but i think its been well aggreed that it wasnt that many. Not only did he not fight competively, he didnt go around getting in bar fights or anything of the sort either.

As tien mentioned about how size and numbers of an army dont always make a win, well i related that to bruces speed and dexterity. People are using Lee's physical attributes only to define what he can do. An army of 10 men can beat 100 if those 10 are battle hardened soldiers with 20 years of experience, compared to 100 newbs whove never fired a gun at someone.

Ali was essentially the utmost in perfection when it comes to size and speed. Bruce lee was probably faster in the 'overall' department, but when looking at mans ultimate ability to become a machine, Ali was it. And you just cant topple how much real-world experience really matters. And i say again, routinely fighting for over half an hour at a time is an UNGODLY feat. No martial arts tournaments, bouts, or scrimmages ever consist of this duration. Lee and Ali could surely both exericise side by side for an equal length of time, but when youre mind has to be sharp and your body enduring, 30 minutes is like hours.

You cannot personalize this because you might run 10 miles per day, or work out at the gym for 2 hours a night, so you know how that feels. Go find a sparring partner at the gym or a boxing school with a friend, and just get some ring time in with a buddy (if you dont know how to fight), and try fighting for a half hour strait. Giving it all you got. I guarantee you will be exhausted in about 5-10 minutes, even if you are perfectly fit.

Since Ali was bigger, it would probably also mean he had less stamina, remember the T1 dude I mentioned earlier(forget his name)? He was huge, and could take you out easily in the first few minutes, but after that he was wasted =/.