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so Bruce Lee never lost a fight? streetfight or otherwise (i take it from some of these posts he was never involved in any formal tournaments?)
and Ali lost 5 fights? who vs.? were those in his later years when he might not of been as good as he was before?
edit: how old was bruce lee when he died? and what caused it?
and Ali is still alive right? but has had severe Alzhemiers (sp?) for a while... hmm =[
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bruce was with betty ting pei which at the time was a sex symbol in hong kong, what they were doing together in the apartment is still a guess but it's not hard to figure out, lee had a headache and laid down on the bed while she gave him a pill. He never woke up again because his brain was swollen or whatever. I think it's because bruce overworked, and he had taken so many pills to keep him awake, he fainted a few times already during the set of enter the dragon.. i mean cant blame the guy 4 movies in like 1 year.
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oh he died at the age of 32..but a few weeks b4 he died he went to a doctor..the doctor told him he needed rest or something but bruce didnt listen..and the reason why he didnt listen was because the doctor also told him he had the body of an 18 year old.
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http://www.bruceleedivinewind.com/flash.html
watch all these bruce lee flashes, even though their flashes this is really how bruce would of fought.
btw koreans made all of them, even if you dont like bruce its really funny to watch.
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Bruce Lee knows how to fight big people. One of his students was Kareem Abdul Jabbar (sp?), 7-foot-2 267 pounds. Kareem was a good student and eventually they did realistic sort of sparring. In the movie "A Game of Death" (in the lost footage, as Lee died during the filming and the movie was ruined), when Lee's character fights Kareem's, its scary how fast Kareem moves for his size. Kareem said that this fight was how they would practice in real life, but, they had to slow down a lot because the cameras couldn't follow them.
Its wrong to say he was just an actor, not a fighter. That would be like saying there were no fighters until after Lee, because he was acknowledged as the best. Who cares if he did not fight himself, it wasn't because he couldn't. He judged martial arts competitions at the time to be totally unrealistic, and they were. However, all of his students who did compete became champions.
Still, no one can say who would win. Because Bruce Lee said that he would lose, I would say probably Ali. It is possible it was modesty, but I have no way of knowing that, and it seems stupid to be an advocate of all of Lee's sayings and doings, but then pick and choose what he said that suits you.
It is quite funny that in this thread Niza says, "Stupid white people, dumb ass crackers, are stupid", to which some people agree to, and Amat says "azn" in a comparison and it's racist. hmm...
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punch is not as power as kick. one simple reason, when u punch u r using ur upper body ONLY, and ur punching power is limited due to movement. when u kick, u r using ur whole body to deliver a single blow. for example a sidekick, u dash forward and use ur whole body and convert everything to ur kick, all ur energy will be focused on the kick, including ur body weight. tell me do u think ali can punch a punching bag 10 feet away? or bruce lee sidekick it 10 feet away?
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and ali wont win any street fights against any pro street fighters. . street fights take more challenge and everythig is lighting quick, the next thing u know, u could be lying on the ground getting ur ass kicked.
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Norway28553 Posts
ali has parkinsons, not alzheimers.
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pro streetfighters? that i disagree ali would own street fighters.
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i remember hearing a quote by bruce lee that if he was to ever fight ali he would probably lose.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 29 2004 09:05 TeCh)PsylO wrote: Hows the shooto going? Parents pulled some major bullshit >< + Kinda busy with school at the moment :O
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On May 29 2004 09:17 hk[hanbyul] wrote: hey new comparison..royce gracie vs bruce lee. oh btw my frd told me a jap guy beat the whole gracie family, is this true? Kazushi Sakuraba - The Gracie Hunter. He's fucking awesome +_+ Exposed all Gracie weaknesses, got fucking mutilated by Silva though >< However, Silva is a roid monster, bigger than Saku and Saku has fought too many big guys (he has to fatten up to fight at the weightclass at which he fights)
Sakuraba was #1 easily :O
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 29 2004 09:31 SoleSteeler wrote: so Bruce Lee never lost a fight? streetfight or otherwise (i take it from some of these posts he was never involved in any formal tournaments?)
and Ali lost 5 fights? who vs.? were those in his later years when he might not of been as good as he was before?
edit: how old was bruce lee when he died? and what caused it?
and Ali is still alive right? but has had severe Alzhemiers (sp?) for a while... hmm =[ Bruce Lee lost a streetfight in his youth (what allegedly made him start with martial arts), and according to some people who apparently knew him (see link @ last page) he lost a lot of fights in NYC China town.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 29 2004 10:34 L!MP wrote: i remember hearing a quote by bruce lee that if he was to ever fight ali he would probably lose. Indeed - all the people on this thread says it's because he was modest
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
Did Ali actually say that he could kill Bruce in the ring, but on the street, Ali would have no chance.
I wanna know if this actually came out of ali's mouth. Cuz if Ali said it, then thats it, no more point arguing over it.
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Have you guys ever seen mixed martial arts competitions? When have you ever seen anyone jump around and do bruce lee shit? That kind of stuff is FOR THE MOVIES. It comes down to 130 lb man in very good shape vs a 220 lb man in very good shape, both good fighters. Stop worshiping lee as a god, he was a man.
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On May 29 2004 10:44 Tien wrote: Did Ali actually say that he could kill Bruce in the ring, but on the street, Ali would have no chance.
I wanna know if this actually came out of ali's mouth. Cuz if Ali said it, then thats it, no more point arguing over it.
Where as there is still a point in arguing when we know for sure Lee said he would lose to Ali?
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
On May 29 2004 10:53 Servolisk wrote: Show nested quote +On May 29 2004 10:44 Tien wrote: Did Ali actually say that he could kill Bruce in the ring, but on the street, Ali would have no chance.
I wanna know if this actually came out of ali's mouth. Cuz if Ali said it, then thats it, no more point arguing over it. Where as there is still a point in arguing when we know for sure Lee said he would lose to Ali?
Well if Lee said he would lose for sure and Ali said he would lose for sure then what do we know? Did Lee say he would lose for sure in the ring, or on the streets. Cuz I know for sure lee would lose in the ring. The streets, however, is a whole different game.
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