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SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
July 07 2010 13:52 GMT
#61
he had to delete his facebook too i think...
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
July 07 2010 13:53 GMT
#62
This is so depressing. Bliz has made some awful decisions, and communicated them awfully; and the community tends to go a bit spare. It all ends up being very hostile and ugly. Sigh. Poor bashiok.

I really really hope they dump the id idea though. Disclosure of dentity on the internets should always always be the individuals free choice. If they are genuinely worried about the quality of their forums, they should consider other solutions. (Take a page out of TL's book - this site is amazing, the way it's run. Seriously. You ppl are amazing.)
Dance those ultras
nyshak
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany132 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 13:55:16
July 07 2010 13:54 GMT
#63
On July 07 2010 22:53 chocopan wrote:
This is so depressing. Bliz has made some awful decisions, and communicated them awfully; and the community tends to go a bit spare. It all ends up being very hostile and ugly. Sigh. Poor bashiok.

I really really hope they dump the id idea though. Disclosure of dentity on the internets should always always be the individuals free choice. If they are genuinely worried about the quality of their forums, they should consider other solutions. (Take a page out of TL's book - this site is amazing, the way it's run. Seriously. You ppl are amazing.)


They should dump the idea to use Real-ID on Bnet public forums. Keeping it for those people who actually have real friends to play with is a cool feature
B-)
Azile
Profile Joined March 2010
United States339 Posts
July 07 2010 13:55 GMT
#64
On July 07 2010 22:51 Rabiator wrote:
Well it looks like Blizzard has two choices:

1. Forget about the Real-ID altogether and learn to live with the occasional spammer / harrassment OR
2. stick with Real-ID and be responsible for real life harrassment of random people.

I know which one is worse, but some people are thinking with their wallet and only about short term gains.


They're not responsible in the least, no one's forcing you to post on their forums. You agree to the EULA, you choose to let your name be shown. They're not the first forum to do this they're just by far the largest.

I do think they will end up ditching the whole concept though just because of the nerd rage it's generated.
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
July 07 2010 13:56 GMT
#65
I feel sorry for bashiok because he seems like a cool guy, but this is the best thing that could possibly have happened.

this sort of thing sends a message, hopefully they re-evaluate their goddamn brains now
nyshak
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany132 Posts
July 07 2010 13:56 GMT
#66
On July 07 2010 22:55 Azile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 22:51 Rabiator wrote:
Well it looks like Blizzard has two choices:

1. Forget about the Real-ID altogether and learn to live with the occasional spammer / harrassment OR
2. stick with Real-ID and be responsible for real life harrassment of random people.

I know which one is worse, but some people are thinking with their wallet and only about short term gains.


They're not responsible in the least, no one's forcing you to post on their forums. You agree to the EULA, you choose to let your name be shown. They're not the first forum to do this they're just by far the largest.

I do think they will end up ditching the whole concept though just because of the nerd rage it's generated.


They will reconsider publishing the real names of their staff though I wager. Because with staff, all the idiots out there have a reason to harass them right of the bat.
B-)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 07 2010 13:57 GMT
#67
On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:
He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it.

"I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning."


Raged hard.


No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.

Imagine you play a game of SC2 vs a spoiled brat and for some reason he gets incredibly mad at you, partly because you 6 pooled him, mostly because he simply is an idiot. Imagine him digging up you personal information.
What if this happens in the US, you live close to him and he has a weapon.

Sure it is absolutely ridiculous, but we all have heard about people killing because of video games. It also is only one of the most extreme scenarios, anything could happen.

I think it's normal for Bashiok to rage hard when information about his children was brought up; it sounds like a serious threat in the ears of a parent.

Overall though I think it is good to show them what the internet is capable of. Though I am surprised that they didn't see this coming.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Narwhal
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom314 Posts
July 07 2010 13:57 GMT
#68
I dont feel sorry for him at all, he was defending something which is IMO wrong, I just hope this opens up the eyes of blizzard and stops with all thsi facebook real -id malarkey
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
Azile
Profile Joined March 2010
United States339 Posts
July 07 2010 13:57 GMT
#69
On July 07 2010 22:52 hp.Methos wrote:
he had to delete his facebook too i think...


http://www.facebook.com/micah.whipple

Therapist..
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 13:58:53
July 07 2010 13:58 GMT
#70
This is where bashiok sits.

[image loading]

I feel bad for him.
Then again maybe blizzard will rethink this whole thing after one of their own employees got harassed.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 07 2010 13:58 GMT
#71
Well, I'm glad someone from Blizzard decided to be the scapegoat. I'm pretty sure they'll rethink their strategy now.
Willes
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany199 Posts
July 07 2010 13:59 GMT
#72
i dont understand how someone can feel sorry for him, blizzard will stop it now, be happy about this answer
ChaosSmurf
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom175 Posts
July 07 2010 13:59 GMT
#73
Bashiok of all people really doesn't deserve that shit, but if it makes a point... =/
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
July 07 2010 13:59 GMT
#74
I hate to break it to you guys, but being able to find all that stuff about a person is possible even without a real name. Most of it is even public access or what is known as Open Source INTelligence. The rest is easily hackable. You guys would be surprised to see how much information about yourself is public.
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TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
July 07 2010 14:00 GMT
#75
Blizzard should just stick to making games and leave the community to the community...
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
July 07 2010 14:00 GMT
#76
On July 07 2010 22:55 Azile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 22:51 Rabiator wrote:
Well it looks like Blizzard has two choices:

1. Forget about the Real-ID altogether and learn to live with the occasional spammer / harrassment OR
2. stick with Real-ID and be responsible for real life harrassment of random people.

I know which one is worse, but some people are thinking with their wallet and only about short term gains.


They're not responsible in the least, no one's forcing you to post on their forums. You agree to the EULA, you choose to let your name be shown. They're not the first forum to do this they're just by far the largest.

I do think they will end up ditching the whole concept though just because of the nerd rage it's generated.

Oh come on ... sure you sign the EULA and arent forced to post on the forum, but do you honestly think that young children are mature enough to recognize this danger? Blizzard doesnt put an 18+ sticker on their games if they dont have to ...
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Azile
Profile Joined March 2010
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 14:01:45
July 07 2010 14:00 GMT
#77
I don't know why everyone thinks this is shocking, like Bashiok and Blizzard didn't expect this to happen. Do you really think they're so naive they didn't expect a bunch of nerds to immediately try to find out every scrap of information they could about blue posters when their names were revealed?

If they cancel this real ID crap before it's implemented it will be just because they're sick of hearing the QQ about it, not because omg someone found Bashiok's Facebook!!

Oh come on ... sure you sign the EULA and arent forced to post on the forum, but do you honestly think that young children are mature enough to recognize this danger? Blizzard doesnt put an 18+ sticker on their games if they dont have to ...


No, I think that's what parents are for. You do know about parents right? If a child runs out in traffic and gets hit by a car do you blame Toyota?
AlienAlias
Profile Joined June 2009
United States324 Posts
July 07 2010 14:02 GMT
#78
Killing the messenger :/
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 14:03:16
July 07 2010 14:02 GMT
#79
In all likelihood Bashiok did this on purpose. His name has been public for a while being a Blizzard employee anyways, he knew what would happen being so involved in the community/internet. It's kind of silly to assume every Blizzard staff members supports every decision management makes, I there's a good chance he did this in protest.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
July 07 2010 14:02 GMT
#80
Blame Activision. Blizzard is getting killed by Kotick.
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