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Austin10831 Posts
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.
The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.
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Well I think you did the right thing by leaving that environment, but because you care about your parents, it's tough to just forget about them. Isn't your older sister a doctor? Can't you somehow convince them and other family members (maybe aunts, uncles, etc.) to try and get your mom some help, and maybe some stress relief for your parents?
I'd imagine your mom, already having some mental problems, may try and spin it in her head that you are abandoning her, and I feel bad for your dad in that he probably feels like there is no one left there in the house (unless other people are still there) aside from your mom. I can't really tell you anything useful, aside that you're a good person for caring so much and for making this ultimatum; it must have been hard.
Perhaps if your mom does have mental problems, you can try and use that to your advantage. If she loves crazy stuff like Sylvia Brown or other psychics, for example, you could try faking a letter to her in that Sylvia Brown tells her that she had dreams about her, and said that she needed to see a psychologist for her problems if she wanted her potted plants to not grow a lethal fungus that would kill off their entire street.
I dunno lol, but if her mental problems are significant, it's best that she gets help for it, especially having other complications like hepatitis. Hopefully everything works out for you too, you're a nice guy and things will have to get better; usually they do by default when situations are at rock-bottom and so shitty. Maybe also getting away from the situation for a little while will give you some calm and thinking time.
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On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice. The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.
it seems the one i am taking is just math / language
if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol
but im 99% sure I don't
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United States24670 Posts
I think your dad needs counseling away from your Mom to get help with how to deal with her. Not to say that your Mom doesn't need a lot more help, but it's difficult to get mentally ill people to recognize that they need help for said mental illness.
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Austin10831 Posts
On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice. The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff. it seems the one i am taking is just math / language if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol but im 99% sure I don't
You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections:
Word Knowledge (WK)
Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
Mechanical Comprehension (MC)
Shop Information (SI)
Automotive Information (AI)
Electronics Information (EI)
Mathematics Knowledge (MK)
General Science (GS)
Paragraph Comprehension (PC)
Assembling Objects (AO)
Verbal Expression (VE)
and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test.
Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility.
The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards.
Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS)
I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams.
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I have similar experiences with my parents. I stay away and stay independent of them as much as possible.
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On June 19 2010 04:47 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice. The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff. it seems the one i am taking is just math / language if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol but im 99% sure I don't You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections: Word Knowledge (WK) Arithmetic Reasoning (AR) Mechanical Comprehension (MC) Shop Information (SI) Automotive Information (AI) Electronics Information (EI) Mathematics Knowledge (MK) General Science (GS) Paragraph Comprehension (PC) Assembling Objects (AO) Verbal Expression (VE) and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test. Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility. The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards. Show nested quote +Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS) I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams.
wait,
wtf
why didn't my recruiter tell me about this then
i took the practice asvab, and got 96, but it only had language / math questions
i asked my recruiter if the real asvab would be the same as this but longer, and he said yes
if i don't get 93 or higher on this im going to be completely boned and I really don't know what I will do. I don't know much about electronics or engines.
oh, or are you saying that the 93 or higher comes from the "(Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) ", and that the rest only matters for further specialization?
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I feel for you, man.
Moving changes everything.
I hope that goes well.
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sad to hear that travis. I hope the situation in your family improves and everything works out for you in the Air Force. things have been up and down in my family as well. sometimes it just takes time. don't give up hope.
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Austin10831 Posts
On June 19 2010 05:01 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2010 04:47 BroOd wrote:On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice. The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff. it seems the one i am taking is just math / language if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol but im 99% sure I don't You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections: Word Knowledge (WK) Arithmetic Reasoning (AR) Mechanical Comprehension (MC) Shop Information (SI) Automotive Information (AI) Electronics Information (EI) Mathematics Knowledge (MK) General Science (GS) Paragraph Comprehension (PC) Assembling Objects (AO) Verbal Expression (VE) and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test. Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility. The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards. Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS) I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams. wait, wtf why didn't my recruiter tell me about this then i took the practice asvab, and got 96, but it only had language / math questions i asked my recruiter if the real asvab would be the same as this but longer, and he said yes if i don't get 93 or higher on this im going to be completely boned and I really don't know what I will do. I don't know much about electronics or engines. oh, or are you saying that the 93 or higher comes from the "(Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) ", and that the rest only matters for further specialization?
Yes. Those four make up your AFQT score, which is similar to how your practice asvab was tested and scored. As far as I know, the other scores only help your composite, not hurt your percentile. They never told me about them either, and I panicked a bit when I saw them on the test, but they're really not that bad. What do you want to get into that you need the category I score?
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On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.
Best of luck to you, mate! I loved your posts in the High thread, hope everything turns out OK for you and your family!
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Austin10831 Posts
Did you tell your recruiter about smoking pot? If so, what did they advise you? Mine at the time told me not to mention anything, including ever having been sick or in the hospital. (A medical issue would eventually keep me out of the navy, as it would turn out)
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travis,
Mental illness is incredibly hard to deal with. I currently live with a mother and a sister who have, what sounds like, similar issues to what your mother deals with. I am truly sorry that you're leaving your parents. I don't think there is anything harder than having to leave them, even if it is for your own good. I'm so glad you have a place to stay though and at least some security. Really though the important part is leaving that situation. It takes great force of will and is incredibly painful, but it must be done. There may come a day where you question your decision, perhaps it's already happened, but know this: You've done the right thing. Remember it when the going gets rough.
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I've had constant family problems too, and I really think what you need to do is realize that you need to live your own life and stop wasting time trying to change people who have been set in stone for decades.
I'm actually glad my parents are divorcing.
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Washington, D.C9933 Posts
it can't hurt to read up on engines and shit if you are a total doofus like me and have NO CLUE AT ALL how those things work. i had full scores for everything (high school level material, not a brag, shut up) except almost literally a 0 on the automotive section!
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On June 19 2010 05:27 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2010 05:01 travis wrote:On June 19 2010 04:47 BroOd wrote:On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice. The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff. it seems the one i am taking is just math / language if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol but im 99% sure I don't You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections: Word Knowledge (WK) Arithmetic Reasoning (AR) Mechanical Comprehension (MC) Shop Information (SI) Automotive Information (AI) Electronics Information (EI) Mathematics Knowledge (MK) General Science (GS) Paragraph Comprehension (PC) Assembling Objects (AO) Verbal Expression (VE) and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test. Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility. The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards. Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS) I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams. wait, wtf why didn't my recruiter tell me about this then i took the practice asvab, and got 96, but it only had language / math questions i asked my recruiter if the real asvab would be the same as this but longer, and he said yes if i don't get 93 or higher on this im going to be completely boned and I really don't know what I will do. I don't know much about electronics or engines. oh, or are you saying that the 93 or higher comes from the "(Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) ", and that the rest only matters for further specialization? Yes. Those four make up your AFQT score, which is similar to how your practice asvab was tested and scored. As far as I know, the other scores only help your composite, not hurt your percentile. They never told me about them either, and I panicked a bit when I saw them on the test, but they're really not that bad. What do you want to get into that you need the category I score?
I don't know what "category 1 score" means.
I need to get 93 or higher so that I qualify as "EWQ(extremely well qualified)". The air force has an excess of recruits right now and if I score that high I will push others back and get into basic / get a job much much quicker. I can't really afford to continue waiting as I have already had to wait so long because of the ADD medication (controlled substance) I used to take.
On June 19 2010 05:36 BroOd wrote:
Did you tell your recruiter about smoking pot? If so, what did they advise you? Mine at the time told me not to mention anything, including ever having been sick or in the hospital. (A medical issue would eventually keep me out of the navy, as it would turn out)
being the honest fool that I am, when they asked me, I immediately told them that I had smoked pot. the recruiter then told me that it wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't in the last 6 months (which i have, a lot.. but they don't know that). so after he said that, I told them that the last time was 2 years ago.
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Sorry bout that man, but hey if you have any questions about the air force pm me. My dad's an air force officer and I'm currently in afrotc planning to become an officer. Best of luck 
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bad news
the woman my gma is housesitting for doesn't want me staying at her house, as she hardly knows me and has a super fancy house. I understand, but im not sure what course of action to take now. I thought she would be ok with it heh.
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One thing you could try is write how you feel on a sheet of paper or two... By hand is probably better... Keep it on 1 or 2 pages or it may not have the same impact.
Sometimes when you tell somebody how you feel their first instinct is to get defensive right away and then there's no way you'll get through to her... If you do it through a letter, there's a chance it'll sink in. Also it may be completely useless. I think it's worth a try though.
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GL on your test. I hope things work out for you.
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