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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 21:19:17
June 18 2010 18:43 GMT
#1
My mother has hepatitis. She has had it my entire life.

She also has some sort of mental problems, and she is not honest about it. The mental problems explain for why she treated me so poorly sometimes during my childhood, most likely without realizing it. I know, lots of people have hard childhoods. I was one of those people. I imagine it was the root cause of my anxiety/lonerism/add.

She treats my father cruelly and isn't honest with herself about it. She claims he gets mad at her when in reality it is she that gets upset at my dad. This is very stressful, I feel bad for my father.

I have been living with them while I wait to go into the air force. But, I can't stand for this anymore.

My parents saw a counselor once. The counselor told my mother, in private, that she had issues with her father that she needs to address, and that in turn because of it she has issues with men. She left that counselor, upset, never to go back again.

I told my mom that my parents need to see a counselor again. She said that my father refused to go. This is a straight up lie, it is in fact her that refuses to go. I cannot stand for the way she treats my father anymore. He suffers, and so do I, and so does she. She isn't honest with herself.

I gave her an ultimatum. Either they go see a counselor or I leave and I don't plan on coming back.

She said no. She tried to lay a guilt trip on me, like somehow she can't see a counselor while she has hepatitis because it will harm her or something. Which is clearly bullshit. Things could not possibly become more stressful for her by seeing a counselor.

So I am leaving. I shall stay with my grandmother, who is housesitting for a friend for the next month. Hopefully the air force thing pans out by then, or I really don't know what I will do.

But I won't go back unless she sees a counselor and that is the end of that.

edit: bad news
the woman my gma is housesitting for doesn't want me staying at her house, as she hardly knows me and has a super fancy house. I understand, but im not sure what course of action to take now.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 18 2010 18:48 GMT
#2


Wow.

Just...

I feel bad for both you and your mother.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 18:51:29
June 18 2010 18:48 GMT
#3
Good luck man. Really nothing more you can do it seems.. Time to do what is best for yourself and live your life? As hard as it is sometimes, you are the 'child'-- not the parent.

For some reason the term 'borderline' came to mind? As well as the book 'A child called it' by David Pelzer (who joined the Air Force too!)

For what it's worth and from what I know: you're doing the right thing
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
June 18 2010 18:51 GMT
#4
in my opinion... you should probably let go of your mother, it's never anyone's fault but... you shouldn't have to deal with that type of shit, especially from your mother.

hmm you could also keep trying to help her and your father out...

but, dude! now that i think about it, i don't think a counselor is what she needs, she needs what a counselor is suppose to provide, but not an actually counselor.

I mean... if my parents tried to make me see a counselor i would straight up tell them no
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
June 18 2010 18:51 GMT
#5
Sorry to hear travis. Wish you the best and good luck in the Air Force.

After I joined the military, my whole life changed for the better and I sincerely hope the same happens for you.
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
June 18 2010 18:52 GMT
#6
On June 19 2010 03:48 Beyonder wrote:
you are the 'child'-- not the parent.

yeah that too but... this is going to be a huge crossroads in his life
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 18 2010 18:53 GMT
#7
I'm sorry to hear about this travis, you are such a wonderful poster on these forums. I hate seeing good people with bad news. I am glad to see you are being proactive about the situation, bud.

Good luck.
Infernus
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway222 Posts
June 18 2010 18:55 GMT
#8
I get sad when I read stories like this I wish you all the best and I hope things get a bit brighter in near future for you and your parents.

I hope you get into that Air Force thingie soon tho, think it will do you some good. It can be really nice to just get away from things when it's at it worst. Especially with cases like this where I guess you could really use a time-out and have other things to trouble your mind with.

Best of luck, cheers.
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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
June 18 2010 18:57 GMT
#9
Don't be sad, SC2 is coming soon. =)

More seriously, i know how parents problems can mess up kids. My advice to you is to focus on yourself, try to manage your daily routine so you don't get to think about your problems too much, and no matter what keep moving forward !
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ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
June 18 2010 18:59 GMT
#10
Yo even though family ties are probably the strongest bonds of social solidarity, sometimes you just have to be looking out for your best interest. I don't know whether or not you're sad because your mother is ill or because she refused to see a counselor after your ultimatum.

The illness. . I dunno what you can do to improve your mother's health condition.
Your mother refusing to see a counselor you cannot control her and force her.

Thus, just do what's in your best interest (i.e. air force as you mentioned) if air force doesn't work out, have a backup plan. Move out to a bachelor suite or with a roommate and work full-time and just keep in touch with your mother from a short distance. Maybe she will come to realize you were right one day.

Don't feel bad about your childhood, you may have had it bad but I'm sure there are others who've had it worse. You got this far in life and just take it for what it is and be grateful. GL
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
June 18 2010 19:00 GMT
#11
I feel for you. I also had an extremely rough childhood, as my mother and father both dealt with alcoholism their entire adult lives. The best thing I ever did was get the hell outta there. You gotta stop trying to deal with other peoples lives and problems, and just get out and start living your own. Personally, my stress level dropped from a solid 10 to like a 1. Life has been great ever since. Even if the airforce doesnt pan out, look for a decent paying job in the meantime (construction pays well) and just get out on your own!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 18 2010 19:02 GMT
#12
Just so it's clear, I am 25 years old and only have to be at my parent's house because of mistakes I have made on my own. They are doing me a favor by letting me stay here. My mother is a good person who loves me very much I just wish she could be honest with herself about her shortcomings.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
June 18 2010 19:03 GMT
#13
I'll pray for you and your family, that things work out
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nofAcedAgent
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States952 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 19:04:55
June 18 2010 19:04 GMT
#14
I think your Dad is the one that needs to be laying down ultimatums. Sorry to hear man, hope it works out. Im doubly sad to hear your joining the military - your one of my favorite posters good luck with that yo~
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
June 18 2010 19:06 GMT
#15
I hope you have a good future, no one should have to deal with stuff like this : (
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 18 2010 19:06 GMT
#16
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
June 18 2010 19:06 GMT
#17
I'm really sorry to hear that, and I'm glad you're leaving. Seriously I couldn't stand living with someone like that either, I got angry just reading your blog and once she realized that she was treating you badly when you were little and wasn't honest about it.. NOW THAT SERIOUSLY pisses me off. I cannot stand people who lie about the most retarded, random, unnecessary bullshit. If you hadn't said so yourself, I would've said that you should leave that place. I know it feels like you're abandoning your father, but if you seriously can't stand it, get the fuck out. Around 6 months ago I moved out of my grandparents house, since they raised me when I was little... and now I'm living with my mom which is pretty great. My grandma was just... a bitch basically, and once my cousin told me that he agrees, I really wanted to cry because I thought I was the only one who thought she was a bitch. I've known my cousin and kept visiting/hanging out with him since I was 5 and now I'm going to be 20, he's a very decent person and I got so glad he agreed about my grandma, even though I love her, I just can't live with her anymore hahaha. I really want to call your mom a straight up bitch... I really do. I'm sorry you're going through this, it must be hard, and I hope for the best for you!
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
June 18 2010 19:06 GMT
#18
I hope everything turns out alright Travis.
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
June 18 2010 19:08 GMT
#19
I understand the frustration that arises from not having a say in what goes on in the house. Especially if a member is acting in a disrespectful way towards one family member. It can tear a family to the point of no return. If it gets too hard being around the house, try taking the laptop to some cafe or library and leave them alone. It usually helps me, so I thought I'd pass the advice along. Hope your mother comes to term with her actions. Good luck
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 18 2010 19:13 GMT
#20
That sucks mans. Hope it all works out in the end.

Good luck with the air force though. From following your bodyweight work I'm sure your training will be insanely beneficial.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
June 18 2010 19:15 GMT
#21
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.

The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.
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Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
June 18 2010 19:15 GMT
#22
Well I think you did the right thing by leaving that environment, but because you care about your parents, it's tough to just forget about them. Isn't your older sister a doctor? Can't you somehow convince them and other family members (maybe aunts, uncles, etc.) to try and get your mom some help, and maybe some stress relief for your parents?

I'd imagine your mom, already having some mental problems, may try and spin it in her head that you are abandoning her, and I feel bad for your dad in that he probably feels like there is no one left there in the house (unless other people are still there) aside from your mom. I can't really tell you anything useful, aside that you're a good person for caring so much and for making this ultimatum; it must have been hard.

Perhaps if your mom does have mental problems, you can try and use that to your advantage. If she loves crazy stuff like Sylvia Brown or other psychics, for example, you could try faking a letter to her in that Sylvia Brown tells her that she had dreams about her, and said that she needed to see a psychologist for her problems if she wanted her potted plants to not grow a lethal fungus that would kill off their entire street.

I dunno lol, but if her mental problems are significant, it's best that she gets help for it, especially having other complications like hepatitis. Hopefully everything works out for you too, you're a nice guy and things will have to get better; usually they do by default when situations are at rock-bottom and so shitty. Maybe also getting away from the situation for a little while will give you some calm and thinking time.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 18 2010 19:19 GMT
#23
On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.

The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.


it seems the one i am taking is just math / language
if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol
but im 99% sure I don't
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24673 Posts
June 18 2010 19:46 GMT
#24
I think your dad needs counseling away from your Mom to get help with how to deal with her. Not to say that your Mom doesn't need a lot more help, but it's difficult to get mentally ill people to recognize that they need help for said mental illness.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
June 18 2010 19:47 GMT
#25
On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.

The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.


it seems the one i am taking is just math / language
if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol
but im 99% sure I don't


You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections:

Word Knowledge (WK)
Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
Mechanical Comprehension (MC)
Shop Information (SI)
Automotive Information (AI)
Electronics Information (EI)
Mathematics Knowledge (MK)
General Science (GS)
Paragraph Comprehension (PC)
Assembling Objects (AO)
Verbal Expression (VE)

and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test.

Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility.

The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards.

Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS)


I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
June 18 2010 19:52 GMT
#26
I have similar experiences with my parents. I stay away and stay independent of them as much as possible.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 20:04:15
June 18 2010 20:01 GMT
#27
On June 19 2010 04:47 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.

The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.


it seems the one i am taking is just math / language
if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol
but im 99% sure I don't


You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections:

Word Knowledge (WK)
Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
Mechanical Comprehension (MC)
Shop Information (SI)
Automotive Information (AI)
Electronics Information (EI)
Mathematics Knowledge (MK)
General Science (GS)
Paragraph Comprehension (PC)
Assembling Objects (AO)
Verbal Expression (VE)

and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test.

Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility.

The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards.

Show nested quote +
Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS)


I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams.


wait,
wtf
why didn't my recruiter tell me about this then
i took the practice asvab, and got 96, but it only had language / math questions
i asked my recruiter if the real asvab would be the same as this but longer, and he said yes

if i don't get 93 or higher on this im going to be completely boned and I really don't know what I will do. I don't know much about electronics or engines.

oh, or are you saying that the 93 or higher comes from the "(Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) ", and that the rest only matters for further specialization?
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
June 18 2010 20:02 GMT
#28
I feel for you, man.
Moving changes everything.
I hope that goes well.
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distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
June 18 2010 20:06 GMT
#29
sad to hear that travis. I hope the situation in your family improves and everything works out for you in the Air Force. things have been up and down in my family as well. sometimes it just takes time. don't give up hope.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 20:29:32
June 18 2010 20:27 GMT
#30
On June 19 2010 05:01 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2010 04:47 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.

The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.


it seems the one i am taking is just math / language
if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol
but im 99% sure I don't


You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections:

Word Knowledge (WK)
Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
Mechanical Comprehension (MC)
Shop Information (SI)
Automotive Information (AI)
Electronics Information (EI)
Mathematics Knowledge (MK)
General Science (GS)
Paragraph Comprehension (PC)
Assembling Objects (AO)
Verbal Expression (VE)

and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test.

Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility.

The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards.

Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS)


I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams.


wait,
wtf
why didn't my recruiter tell me about this then
i took the practice asvab, and got 96, but it only had language / math questions
i asked my recruiter if the real asvab would be the same as this but longer, and he said yes

if i don't get 93 or higher on this im going to be completely boned and I really don't know what I will do. I don't know much about electronics or engines.

oh, or are you saying that the 93 or higher comes from the "(Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) ", and that the rest only matters for further specialization?


Yes. Those four make up your AFQT score, which is similar to how your practice asvab was tested and scored. As far as I know, the other scores only help your composite, not hurt your percentile. They never told me about them either, and I panicked a bit when I saw them on the test, but they're really not that bad. What do you want to get into that you need the category I score?
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
NiTenIchiRyu
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom273 Posts
June 18 2010 20:32 GMT
#31
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.

Best of luck to you, mate! I loved your posts in the High thread, hope everything turns out OK for you and your family!
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
June 18 2010 20:36 GMT
#32
Did you tell your recruiter about smoking pot? If so, what did they advise you? Mine at the time told me not to mention anything, including ever having been sick or in the hospital. (A medical issue would eventually keep me out of the navy, as it would turn out)
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1838 Posts
June 18 2010 20:58 GMT
#33
travis,
Mental illness is incredibly hard to deal with. I currently live with a mother and a sister who have, what sounds like, similar issues to what your mother deals with. I am truly sorry that you're leaving your parents. I don't think there is anything harder than having to leave them, even if it is for your own good. I'm so glad you have a place to stay though and at least some security. Really though the important part is leaving that situation. It takes great force of will and is incredibly painful, but it must be done. There may come a day where you question your decision, perhaps it's already happened, but know this: You've done the right thing. Remember it when the going gets rough.
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
June 18 2010 21:01 GMT
#34
I've had constant family problems too, and I really think what you need to do is realize that you need to live your own life and stop wasting time trying to change people who have been set in stone for decades.

I'm actually glad my parents are divorcing.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
June 18 2010 21:03 GMT
#35
it can't hurt to read up on engines and shit if you are a total doofus like me and have NO CLUE AT ALL how those things work. i had full scores for everything (high school level material, not a brag, shut up) except almost literally a 0 on the automotive section!
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 21:11:08
June 18 2010 21:09 GMT
#36
On June 19 2010 05:27 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2010 05:01 travis wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:47 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.

The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.


it seems the one i am taking is just math / language
if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol
but im 99% sure I don't


You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections:

Word Knowledge (WK)
Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
Mechanical Comprehension (MC)
Shop Information (SI)
Automotive Information (AI)
Electronics Information (EI)
Mathematics Knowledge (MK)
General Science (GS)
Paragraph Comprehension (PC)
Assembling Objects (AO)
Verbal Expression (VE)

and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test.

Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility.

The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards.

Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS)


I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams.


wait,
wtf
why didn't my recruiter tell me about this then
i took the practice asvab, and got 96, but it only had language / math questions
i asked my recruiter if the real asvab would be the same as this but longer, and he said yes

if i don't get 93 or higher on this im going to be completely boned and I really don't know what I will do. I don't know much about electronics or engines.

oh, or are you saying that the 93 or higher comes from the "(Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) ", and that the rest only matters for further specialization?


Yes. Those four make up your AFQT score, which is similar to how your practice asvab was tested and scored. As far as I know, the other scores only help your composite, not hurt your percentile. They never told me about them either, and I panicked a bit when I saw them on the test, but they're really not that bad. What do you want to get into that you need the category I score?


I don't know what "category 1 score" means.

I need to get 93 or higher so that I qualify as "EWQ(extremely well qualified)". The air force has an excess of recruits right now and if I score that high I will push others back and get into basic / get a job much much quicker. I can't really afford to continue waiting as I have already had to wait so long because of the ADD medication (controlled substance) I used to take.


On June 19 2010 05:36 BroOd wrote:
Did you tell your recruiter about smoking pot? If so, what did they advise you? Mine at the time told me not to mention anything, including ever having been sick or in the hospital. (A medical issue would eventually keep me out of the navy, as it would turn out)


being the honest fool that I am, when they asked me, I immediately told them that I had smoked pot. the recruiter then told me that it wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't in the last 6 months (which i have, a lot.. but they don't know that). so after he said that, I told them that the last time was 2 years ago.
Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
June 18 2010 21:17 GMT
#37
Sorry bout that man, but hey if you have any questions about the air force pm me. My dad's an air force officer and I'm currently in afrotc planning to become an officer. Best of luck
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 21:22:18
June 18 2010 21:19 GMT
#38
bad news
the woman my gma is housesitting for doesn't want me staying at her house, as she hardly knows me and has a super fancy house. I understand, but im not sure what course of action to take now. I thought she would be ok with it heh.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 21:33:19
June 18 2010 21:31 GMT
#39
One thing you could try is write how you feel on a sheet of paper or two... By hand is probably better... Keep it on 1 or 2 pages or it may not have the same impact.

Sometimes when you tell somebody how you feel their first instinct is to get defensive right away and then there's no way you'll get through to her... If you do it through a letter, there's a chance it'll sink in. Also it may be completely useless. I think it's worth a try though.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
June 18 2010 21:35 GMT
#40
GL on your test. I hope things work out for you.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 18 2010 21:53 GMT
#41
:(:(
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
June 18 2010 22:03 GMT
#42
On June 19 2010 06:09 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2010 05:27 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 05:01 travis wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:47 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:19 travis wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:15 BroOd wrote:
On June 19 2010 04:06 travis wrote:
The military should be fine. I am taking the asvab this coming monday, and if I score 93 or higher(which I expect to) things should go smoothly and I will get a good job of my choice.

The asvab is pretty easy, I'd just recommend doing a brief refresher on things like electronic circuits and basic engine stuff.


it seems the one i am taking is just math / language
if I have to know about circuits and engine stuff there is a good chance im boned lol
but im 99% sure I don't


You're taking the standard asvab, which is 10 sections:

Word Knowledge (WK)
Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
Mechanical Comprehension (MC)
Shop Information (SI)
Automotive Information (AI)
Electronics Information (EI)
Mathematics Knowledge (MK)
General Science (GS)
Paragraph Comprehension (PC)
Assembling Objects (AO)
Verbal Expression (VE)

and there might be more tests after that for the AF. I took it for the navy a while back and there was an extra speed-coding test.

Four of the sections (Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) make up your AFQT score, which is a percentile score. This score is basically your "qualification" score that determines your basic eligibility.

The rest of the sections are then used in your composite score, which determines your aptitude for certain fields and which area they will funnel you towards.

Air Force Composite Scores:
Goes by Standard AFQT score AR + MK + (2 x VE)
G - General: Verbal Expression (WK plus PC) and Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
M - Mechanical: Mechanical Comprehension (MC), General Science (GS) and 2 times Auto & Shop Information (AS)
A - Administrative: Numerical Operations * (NO), Coding Speed * (CS), and Verbal Expression (WK plus PC)
E - Electrical: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Electronics Information (EI), and General Science (GS)


I wasn't very prepared when I went in, and the mechanical stuff caught me by surprise, but I still got a 99, so it's really not that hard. Just glance over the basic stuff about engines and circuits. The stuff I remember asked you to match names to basic engine parts, look at engine diagrams and determine where pressure/flow would be if certain pumps or chambers moved. Esentially, if you know how an engine basically works, you'll be able to deduce the answers from the graphs and diagrams.


wait,
wtf
why didn't my recruiter tell me about this then
i took the practice asvab, and got 96, but it only had language / math questions
i asked my recruiter if the real asvab would be the same as this but longer, and he said yes

if i don't get 93 or higher on this im going to be completely boned and I really don't know what I will do. I don't know much about electronics or engines.

oh, or are you saying that the 93 or higher comes from the "(Arithmetic Reasoning, Mathematics Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Word Knowledge) ", and that the rest only matters for further specialization?


Yes. Those four make up your AFQT score, which is similar to how your practice asvab was tested and scored. As far as I know, the other scores only help your composite, not hurt your percentile. They never told me about them either, and I panicked a bit when I saw them on the test, but they're really not that bad. What do you want to get into that you need the category I score?


I don't know what "category 1 score" means.

I need to get 93 or higher so that I qualify as "EWQ(extremely well qualified)". The air force has an excess of recruits right now and if I score that high I will push others back and get into basic / get a job much much quicker. I can't really afford to continue waiting as I have already had to wait so long because of the ADD medication (controlled substance) I used to take.


Show nested quote +
On June 19 2010 05:36 BroOd wrote:
Did you tell your recruiter about smoking pot? If so, what did they advise you? Mine at the time told me not to mention anything, including ever having been sick or in the hospital. (A medical issue would eventually keep me out of the navy, as it would turn out)


being the honest fool that I am, when they asked me, I immediately told them that I had smoked pot. the recruiter then told me that it wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't in the last 6 months (which i have, a lot.. but they don't know that). so after he said that, I told them that the last time was 2 years ago.

Yeah category I is 93-99 I think. Did they put that you had smoked on your recruitment papers? Because you'll get asked again when you go to MEPS. My recruiter basically told me to deny having done any "bad" thing I've ever done, and excluded it all from my paperwork. ("bad" in this context being any drug use, any injuries, non-important medical issues or legal issues, speeding tickets/parking violations) I don't know what yours told you, but you just have to make sure you're consistent. There's also a thing called the "Moment of Truth" before you start basic where they grill you and try to get you to admit to any of the above by claiming that they KNOW you lied etc and you HAVE to come clean before you start. (I never got to this part, but I was told about it by some enlistees). Just be consistent with all that stuff I guess.
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Last Edited: 2010-06-18 23:29:07
June 18 2010 23:28 GMT
#43
yo could a mod close this i don't really want discussion in this to continue

and haji: I don't read that language
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
June 18 2010 23:42 GMT
#44
ok
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