• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:32
CET 00:32
KST 08:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.174Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup Sagi.gg Launcher Released BW General Discussion Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away.
Tourneys
[IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [BSL23] RO24 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine R I P Patrick Stewart European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9855 users

Sandals - Page 9

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 20 Next All
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 11 2010 17:45 GMT
#161
wow i'm actually starting to believe this. good thing some of them got caught.
Brood War loyalist
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
April 11 2010 17:46 GMT
#162
Shocking but I'm not surprised at all.


So easy to throw games.

So much money to be made on betting these games.

So little money these kids make.


Only inevitable that it would be done.





I can only imagine this is what these progamers are being told.
We decide our own destiny
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
April 11 2010 17:53 GMT
#163
Remember that baseball episode of South Park?
Xiphiasar
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
April 11 2010 17:54 GMT
#164
So yeah, I was a little confused until halfway through the first video, because I read the topic title as sandals.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
April 11 2010 17:56 GMT
#165
oh well... we are all human after all... i guess progaming just takes its toll on people and the temptation is irresistible.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
April 11 2010 17:57 GMT
#166
+ Show Spoiler +
Entusman #51
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
April 11 2010 18:00 GMT
#167
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 11 2010 18:09 GMT
#168
On April 12 2010 00:14 lgd-haze wrote:
Would this be the case for guys like Ruby, Tempest and such? They rape the shit out of practice games, and it gets public. Then they suddenly choke on the stage, and doesnt deliver anything.

I know that the pressure being on stage and such is pretty big and might influence their play quite alot.

I'm just sickened and paranoid now about this whole corruption mess.

Everyone plays worse under pressure. Most people play a LOT worse. So it's common for people to play brilliantly in casual or practice games, then play like an idiot when something is at stake.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
April 11 2010 18:10 GMT
#169
GoGo Anytime!!!!
Get outta jail!!!!
He's just hungry =(
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 18:18:13
April 11 2010 18:11 GMT
#170
is there a possibility of savior getting support in the team to do that, sharing the profits w maybe the coach, staff or even the team?

now I'm suspecting of every CJ member... xellos, iris, effort and even skyhigh. they all started to lose a lot without a reason. you don't lose your skills like they seemed to have lost. stork, FBH, jangbi... even jaedong is losing some games he wouldnt lose... and flash with blindly 14cc's last season... oh god im paranoic now. lol

the problem is, the leagues had a fragile system releasing the line-ups like a month before each match.

are they going to be arrested for that? the ones caught?

I wonder what would happen if 2 gamers bet against themselves in the same match
LOL
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
JaimeR
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
148 Posts
April 11 2010 18:14 GMT
#171
On April 12 2010 02:13 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 02:03 Foucault wrote:
what a huge douche savior is

someone should punch him the fuck out. he is such a pathetic human being and basically has fooled all of us fans. is the bisu build a coincidence etc? All the battle reports and analysis

Fuck you Savior, you sorry excuse for a progamer.

Well, I doubt every single zerg in 2007 was involved in this conspiracy and decided to throw their games vs the bisu build.


How revolutionary exactly was the 'Bisu build' though? As far as I'm aware, Protoss were using Corsairs to snipe Overlords at the beginning of the games anyway - perhaps just not following up with Dark Templars. And 14 Nexus has been around for ages. Perhaps it was more of a placebo effect - the fact that Savior lost to it made every Protoss begin using Corsairs to begin with, allowing them to win games they otherwise would have won anyway against lesser players with any other build. At the end of the day it's not like every single Protoss suddenly became as good as Bisu - the six dragons weren't until much later.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
April 11 2010 18:15 GMT
#172
Savior has destroyed everyone in 2010

I would love updates on this thing, Mr. Rekrul. Thanks!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 18:20:25
April 11 2010 18:20 GMT
#173
On April 12 2010 03:11 ilbh wrote:
now I'm suspecting of every CJ member... xellos, iris, effort and even skyhigh. they all started to lose a lot without a reason. you don't lose your skills like they seemed to have lost. stork, FBH, jangbi... even jaedong is losing some games he wouldnt lose... and flash with blindly 14cc's last season... oh god im paranoic now. lol

I believe Rekrul has already covered why many top players suddenly start to lose a lot in a previous topic.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
April 11 2010 18:21 GMT
#174
On April 12 2010 02:03 Foucault wrote:
what a huge douche savior is

someone should punch him the fuck out. he is such a pathetic human being and basically has fooled all of us fans. is the bisu build a coincidence etc? All the battle reports and analysis

Fuck you Savior, you sorry excuse for a progamer.

that would be hilarious if savior was playing us the whole time
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 11 2010 18:22 GMT
#175
On April 12 2010 03:14 JaimeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 02:13 Jyvblamo wrote:
On April 12 2010 02:03 Foucault wrote:
what a huge douche savior is

someone should punch him the fuck out. he is such a pathetic human being and basically has fooled all of us fans. is the bisu build a coincidence etc? All the battle reports and analysis

Fuck you Savior, you sorry excuse for a progamer.

Well, I doubt every single zerg in 2007 was involved in this conspiracy and decided to throw their games vs the bisu build.


How revolutionary exactly was the 'Bisu build' though? As far as I'm aware, Protoss were using Corsairs to snipe Overlords at the beginning of the games anyway - perhaps just not following up with Dark Templars. And 14 Nexus has been around for ages. Perhaps it was more of a placebo effect - the fact that Savior lost to it made every Protoss begin using Corsairs to begin with, allowing them to win games they otherwise would have won anyway against lesser players with any other build. At the end of the day it's not like every single Protoss suddenly became as good as Bisu - the six dragons weren't until much later.

The Real Bisu Build:
1. pay your opponent to lose
2. build pylon at nat
3. win
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9952 Posts
April 11 2010 18:23 GMT
#176
On April 12 2010 03:00 starfries wrote:
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too

nah leta made his money by looking at the crowd during the games.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
April 11 2010 18:26 GMT
#177
On April 12 2010 03:23 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 03:00 starfries wrote:
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too

nah leta made his money by looking at the crowd during the games.


haha so mean
I am not good with quotes
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
April 11 2010 18:29 GMT
#178
id quit watching right away doh
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
April 11 2010 18:31 GMT
#179
On April 12 2010 03:26 s.a.y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 03:23 RaGe wrote:
On April 12 2010 03:00 starfries wrote:
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too

nah leta made his money by looking at the crowd during the games.


haha so mean

i dont get it.
Entusman #51
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
April 11 2010 18:40 GMT
#180
On April 12 2010 03:31 Mobius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 03:26 s.a.y wrote:
On April 12 2010 03:23 RaGe wrote:
On April 12 2010 03:00 starfries wrote:
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too

nah leta made his money by looking at the crowd during the games.


haha so mean

i dont get it.

Leta was accused of crowd looking in one game.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE142
CosmosSc2 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 600
GuemChi 437
ProTech177
White-Ra 125
Sexy 49
Dota 2
syndereN520
monkeys_forever218
NeuroSwarm95
League of Legends
JimRising 573
Other Games
summit1g8584
Coldzera 761
shahzam572
Liquid`Hasu227
C9.Mang0217
XaKoH 143
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV49
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 97
• RyuSc2 44
• EnkiAlexander 12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2742
• Jankos2464
• Scarra982
Other Games
• imaqtpie562
Upcoming Events
GSL
12h 29m
Epic.LAN
13h 29m
Big Brain Bouts
17h 29m
OSC
22h 29m
Replay Cast
23h 29m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 12h
Epic.LAN
1d 13h
IPSL
1d 16h
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
1d 18h
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Yamato Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
3 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.