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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 11 2010 17:45 GMT
#161
wow i'm actually starting to believe this. good thing some of them got caught.
Brood War loyalist
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
April 11 2010 17:46 GMT
#162
Shocking but I'm not surprised at all.


So easy to throw games.

So much money to be made on betting these games.

So little money these kids make.


Only inevitable that it would be done.





I can only imagine this is what these progamers are being told.
We decide our own destiny
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
April 11 2010 17:53 GMT
#163
Remember that baseball episode of South Park?
Xiphiasar
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
April 11 2010 17:54 GMT
#164
So yeah, I was a little confused until halfway through the first video, because I read the topic title as sandals.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
April 11 2010 17:56 GMT
#165
oh well... we are all human after all... i guess progaming just takes its toll on people and the temptation is irresistible.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
April 11 2010 17:57 GMT
#166
+ Show Spoiler +
Entusman #51
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
April 11 2010 18:00 GMT
#167
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 11 2010 18:09 GMT
#168
On April 12 2010 00:14 lgd-haze wrote:
Would this be the case for guys like Ruby, Tempest and such? They rape the shit out of practice games, and it gets public. Then they suddenly choke on the stage, and doesnt deliver anything.

I know that the pressure being on stage and such is pretty big and might influence their play quite alot.

I'm just sickened and paranoid now about this whole corruption mess.

Everyone plays worse under pressure. Most people play a LOT worse. So it's common for people to play brilliantly in casual or practice games, then play like an idiot when something is at stake.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
April 11 2010 18:10 GMT
#169
GoGo Anytime!!!!
Get outta jail!!!!
He's just hungry =(
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 18:18:13
April 11 2010 18:11 GMT
#170
is there a possibility of savior getting support in the team to do that, sharing the profits w maybe the coach, staff or even the team?

now I'm suspecting of every CJ member... xellos, iris, effort and even skyhigh. they all started to lose a lot without a reason. you don't lose your skills like they seemed to have lost. stork, FBH, jangbi... even jaedong is losing some games he wouldnt lose... and flash with blindly 14cc's last season... oh god im paranoic now. lol

the problem is, the leagues had a fragile system releasing the line-ups like a month before each match.

are they going to be arrested for that? the ones caught?

I wonder what would happen if 2 gamers bet against themselves in the same match
LOL
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
JaimeR
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
148 Posts
April 11 2010 18:14 GMT
#171
On April 12 2010 02:13 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 02:03 Foucault wrote:
what a huge douche savior is

someone should punch him the fuck out. he is such a pathetic human being and basically has fooled all of us fans. is the bisu build a coincidence etc? All the battle reports and analysis

Fuck you Savior, you sorry excuse for a progamer.

Well, I doubt every single zerg in 2007 was involved in this conspiracy and decided to throw their games vs the bisu build.


How revolutionary exactly was the 'Bisu build' though? As far as I'm aware, Protoss were using Corsairs to snipe Overlords at the beginning of the games anyway - perhaps just not following up with Dark Templars. And 14 Nexus has been around for ages. Perhaps it was more of a placebo effect - the fact that Savior lost to it made every Protoss begin using Corsairs to begin with, allowing them to win games they otherwise would have won anyway against lesser players with any other build. At the end of the day it's not like every single Protoss suddenly became as good as Bisu - the six dragons weren't until much later.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
April 11 2010 18:15 GMT
#172
Savior has destroyed everyone in 2010

I would love updates on this thing, Mr. Rekrul. Thanks!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 18:20:25
April 11 2010 18:20 GMT
#173
On April 12 2010 03:11 ilbh wrote:
now I'm suspecting of every CJ member... xellos, iris, effort and even skyhigh. they all started to lose a lot without a reason. you don't lose your skills like they seemed to have lost. stork, FBH, jangbi... even jaedong is losing some games he wouldnt lose... and flash with blindly 14cc's last season... oh god im paranoic now. lol

I believe Rekrul has already covered why many top players suddenly start to lose a lot in a previous topic.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
April 11 2010 18:21 GMT
#174
On April 12 2010 02:03 Foucault wrote:
what a huge douche savior is

someone should punch him the fuck out. he is such a pathetic human being and basically has fooled all of us fans. is the bisu build a coincidence etc? All the battle reports and analysis

Fuck you Savior, you sorry excuse for a progamer.

that would be hilarious if savior was playing us the whole time
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 11 2010 18:22 GMT
#175
On April 12 2010 03:14 JaimeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 02:13 Jyvblamo wrote:
On April 12 2010 02:03 Foucault wrote:
what a huge douche savior is

someone should punch him the fuck out. he is such a pathetic human being and basically has fooled all of us fans. is the bisu build a coincidence etc? All the battle reports and analysis

Fuck you Savior, you sorry excuse for a progamer.

Well, I doubt every single zerg in 2007 was involved in this conspiracy and decided to throw their games vs the bisu build.


How revolutionary exactly was the 'Bisu build' though? As far as I'm aware, Protoss were using Corsairs to snipe Overlords at the beginning of the games anyway - perhaps just not following up with Dark Templars. And 14 Nexus has been around for ages. Perhaps it was more of a placebo effect - the fact that Savior lost to it made every Protoss begin using Corsairs to begin with, allowing them to win games they otherwise would have won anyway against lesser players with any other build. At the end of the day it's not like every single Protoss suddenly became as good as Bisu - the six dragons weren't until much later.

The Real Bisu Build:
1. pay your opponent to lose
2. build pylon at nat
3. win
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
April 11 2010 18:23 GMT
#176
On April 12 2010 03:00 starfries wrote:
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too

nah leta made his money by looking at the crowd during the games.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
April 11 2010 18:26 GMT
#177
On April 12 2010 03:23 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 03:00 starfries wrote:
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too

nah leta made his money by looking at the crowd during the games.


haha so mean
I am not good with quotes
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
April 11 2010 18:29 GMT
#178
id quit watching right away doh
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
April 11 2010 18:31 GMT
#179
On April 12 2010 03:26 s.a.y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 03:23 RaGe wrote:
On April 12 2010 03:00 starfries wrote:
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too

nah leta made his money by looking at the crowd during the games.


haha so mean

i dont get it.
Entusman #51
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
April 11 2010 18:40 GMT
#180
On April 12 2010 03:31 Mobius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 03:26 s.a.y wrote:
On April 12 2010 03:23 RaGe wrote:
On April 12 2010 03:00 starfries wrote:
A lot of sparkz guys? I hope this doesn't mean leta too

nah leta made his money by looking at the crowd during the games.


haha so mean

i dont get it.

Leta was accused of crowd looking in one game.
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