EPTyes its "just a videogame" etc but theres a nice sum of money going around in the business, would be nice if players got a bigger share of that.
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
yes its "just a videogame" etc but theres a nice sum of money going around in the business, would be nice if players got a bigger share of that. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:39 Naib wrote: Paid properly, my ass, they're playing a video game! It may be hard, it may be the best RTS ever made, but it's still just a video game. If humans would think like you we'd still making fire with rocks. That's like saying "wtf are programers paid for? typing a bit of code?" | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:43 SuperArc wrote: If humans would think like you we'd still making fire with rocks. That's like saying "wtf are programers paid for? typing a bit of code?" We do other stuff. Like compiling. | ||
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pheus
Australia161 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:32 Scarecrow wrote: They deserve the money imo, maybe if pro-teams paid their players appropriately it wouldn't be such a problem. As far as I can tell progamers don't have to spend money on rent/food. This accounts for A LOT of most people's expenses. WIth this in mind, $30,000/year really isn't that low for someone young. | ||
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prog.ress
United States142 Posts
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Squallcloud
France466 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:39 Naib wrote: Paid properly, my ass, they're playing a video game! It may be hard, it may be the best RTS ever made, but it's still just a video game. So hard work doesn't deserve a salary because it's a videogame? O_o | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
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Puosu
7000 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:45 pheus wrote: As far as I can tell progamers don't have to spend money on rent/food. This accounts for A LOT of most people's expenses. WIth this in mind, $30,000/year really isn't that low for someone young. It is when you've worked for years 12 hours a day towards that, and that kind of salary is not a standard. Most of the not top players make something like 10k a year if that. | ||
MrHoon
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KOFgokuon
United States14902 Posts
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:46 Squallcloud wrote: So hard work doesn't deserve a salary because it's a videogame? O_o Deserving something or not, its kinda useless to talk of that. People cant get paid just because they put effort into something, theres got to be a demand for that work. | ||
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:47 MrHoon wrote: I'm wondering how much of a shitstorm this would cause in Korea if someone translated this to Korean and posted it all over DCinside and shit u could do it oO_ | ||
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:52 29 fps wrote: luckily we only bet on liquibet and lose out there. others are losing real cash on this. sad news for esports. ::crickets:: | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:47 MrHoon wrote: I'm wondering how much of a shitstorm this would cause in Korea if someone translated this to Korean and posted it all over DCinside and shit I dunno if this would cause much of a stir seeing as there have already been posts about this in Korea with basically the same details. I mean to them Rekrul is just a random white guy. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:10 Antisocialmunky wrote: I wonder if someone finally got pissed at losing money on Savior and busted his caps? ![[image loading]](http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/potato/beatdown.jpg) WHERE MY MONEY AT | ||
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pheus
Australia161 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:47 Puosu wrote: It is when you've worked for years 12 hours a day towards that, and that kind of salary is not a standard. Most of the not top players make something like 10k a year if that. I guess it's like an aspiring musician - you have to "make it" to earn real money. If you work 14 hours a day for 50 years but your music sucks no one is ever going to buy it. You wouldn't say that person is owed a pay upgrade. Similarly, a progamer who never breaks out of the low ranks does not deserve more pay just because they have been trying for longer. Lets face it, their job is to perform a recreational activity. They aren't crunching numbers all day as accountants, they aren't washing dishes, they are playing a video game. Getting paid to have fun, even if it isn't fun 100% of the time, is better than what most of us have to do every day. That said, if these low level progamers are making enough money for the proteams / tv networks that a significant pay upgrade would be justified - yeah, that is fucked up. Does anyone actually know how much of a pro team, or even the TV station's revenue would be attributable to a low level progamer on a yearly basis? | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
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JaimeR
148 Posts
On April 11 2010 23:32 JohannesH wrote: So when did Savior start with this... This would be interesting to find out, whether it was pre or post Bisu? Now that I think of it, he did talk up the fact that he would beat Bisu 3:0 quite highly, almost as if he deviously knew that wouldn't be the case. I actually posted in the LR thread back then under my former username (now banned) that Savior must have bet against himself, but I was just kidding around as I presumed that couldn't possibly be it (considering Bisu was able to get through Nalra). Now I'm not so sure. On April 11 2010 23:46 prog.ress wrote: The list wasn't as ridiculous as I worried it would be, but the fact that you have big names like Savior and current players like Luxury and Yarnc, as well as another possible 15 players, makes this really depressing news. Like Rekrul said, any losses now are going to be second-guessed. What a way to make the transition to SC2. :/ The situation has pretty much undercuts the validity of the SC2 pro-game scene before it's even been launched. Will enough safeguards be put into place in order to assure potential fans and sponsors that the tournaments are worth following? Will we only see team matches and no more individual leagues, given that it is harder for an entire team (that has to have players good enough to enter in the first place) to be in on a scandal? I somehow doubt ACE would be able to pull it off as no-one would bet in their favour anyway. Perhaps I'm going too far to imagine that this is enough to destroy any SC2 E-sport potential given that other sports with notorious match fixing (e.g. kickboxing) are still up and kicking. | ||
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