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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 11 2010 20:42 GMT
#221
Glad I am not a savior fan.

I am inclined to believe this and the sad part is we won't get to see the list of all the cheaters due to it being covered up pretty hardcore. I mean I can't blame them for keeping it on the down low, that'd cost a lot of people a lot of money. It's unlikely we'll ever see the entire truth of this unfortunate event.

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
April 11 2010 21:06 GMT
#222
Ugh... I can't prove you wrong, good sir.
But god this fucking sucks.
I'm going to become a recluse, or migrate to some second rate site like gg. And in my head believe, that this was a joint waxangel/rekrul conspiracy.
<3 savior
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 11 2010 21:26 GMT
#223
On April 12 2010 05:01 Boonbag wrote:
How delightful would be the feeling of letting someone beat you on tv and then owning him mercilessly in practice while making 5k in the process?


lolol alot of how the guys throwing matches justify it is probably 'well i'm doing him a favor by letting him win!!!'
why so 진지해?
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 11 2010 21:43 GMT
#224
On April 12 2010 01:33 Mobius wrote:
I dont get it.. sAviOr bet agianst himself to lose 0-3 to bisu? then... bisu build was coincidence? im confused..


Why are people suggesting specific games and series, even random ones like Bisu vs Yellow? Fixing games doesn't mean he did it for EVERY one. And the second one is irrelevant and dunno why its even bought up.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 11 2010 21:47 GMT
#225
ah, savior, why?

now i cannot believe
But why?
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 11 2010 21:54 GMT
#226
YES! That means sAviOr doesn't suck as much as I thought he would be! lol
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
April 11 2010 22:01 GMT
#227
roro's actually not that bad
there was a point when he was wemade's ace but he always lost
but still, you can't be an ace if you're terrible
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #49
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
April 11 2010 22:02 GMT
#228
Savior should use the 2 mil he made to pay off those gambling websites behind the scenes to not reveal any evidence or w/e. Then, savior can take the fall saying he was the only one who fixed his matches, giving the progaming scene a second chance to redeem themselves. Then 3 days later he can return from jail and --oh wait.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
April 11 2010 22:26 GMT
#229
Hey, nice monologues rek. Appreciate you taking the time to put up videos rather than just posting.

This whole situation puts such a bad taste in my mouth. I wonder if Savior lost to bisu in the famous finals on purpose, and continued to "slump" in order to get more money on the side? Then, his "destroy everyone in 2009" promise may have been an attempted comeback after he was satisfied with the money he'd received, then fell back into throwing games again?
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 11 2010 22:35 GMT
#230
do you guys realize that nobody bets on a slumping-savior? i am much more interested in games he lost during his prime. these are the games where a surprising loss can really let money flow..
Bisu... ;-(
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
April 11 2010 22:35 GMT
#231
On April 12 2010 03:46 niteReloaded wrote:
If it happens in Bundesliga, why is it such a surprise to see it here?

money is same everywhere.

Are you german or why do you use "Bundesliga" as an example?
Don't mess the fess!
Niten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States598 Posts
April 11 2010 22:35 GMT
#232
Thanks for the vids, Rekrul, I totally agree that as fans we have a right to know who are the game-throwers and who aren't.

I'm hopeful that the investigation into game-throwing will lead to sending the players the message that if they do it, they might get caught and lose all the fanbase they've built.
Korra: "Ok, I know that I'm not good at emotions, but that's what Tenzin's gonna teach me, right? He's gonna teach me to be happy and gentle and spiritual, and the rest of that bullsh**t."
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
April 11 2010 22:38 GMT
#233
I think this explains why Flash said he fought a very hard zerg online and it turned out to be Savior.
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 22:42:49
April 11 2010 22:38 GMT
#234
srsl guys I also dont know what to think about it...
but true is that on IEF or what was it match between this two STX member i think hwasin and some zerg the one in lobby chat something like marine push u do just ling no sunken or smth like this...
btw it reminds me this

especially the end: you are just bunch of drones
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
April 11 2010 22:53 GMT
#235
On April 12 2010 07:38 scyper wrote:
I think this explains why Flash said he fought a very hard zerg online and it turned out to be Savior.

huuh? when was this?
Entusman #51
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
April 11 2010 23:01 GMT
#236
Flash said so in an interview I believe. Sounds vaguely familiar.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6805 Posts
April 11 2010 23:16 GMT
#237
holyshit how savior make this.MA JAE YOON CORRUPT PROGAMERS OMG
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
April 11 2010 23:25 GMT
#238
fuck that savior didn't throw his games vs bisu

he's not going to throw a starleague title lmao

that was pure bisu and his revoluntionary strategy
Nony is Bonjwa
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
April 11 2010 23:29 GMT
#239
Understandable, especially for guys at the top.
Once you've reached the top- little remains to strive for. And motivating yourself to keep going ceratinly gets a lot harder. Add to that the slavery like circumstances under which a lot of progamers have to labor and the fact that after several years of winning (or not) a lot of shit- you get disillusioned about the entire progaming dream...
When you started with progaming you were 12-15, nothing mattered besides the game.
Now that you're older- there's girls, drugs- an entire adolencent live (which you realize you've missed so far) to explore and the knowledge that somewhere there are 12 year olds practising 18 hours a day to beat you...
Easy to get corrupted.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
April 11 2010 23:52 GMT
#240
On April 12 2010 07:53 Mobius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 07:38 scyper wrote:
I think this explains why Flash said he fought a very hard zerg online and it turned out to be Savior.

huuh? when was this?


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