• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:54
CET 13:54
KST 21:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!44$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1092 users

America living in denial? - Page 2

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-30 17:31:01
February 22 2004 16:10 GMT
#21
Americans lost:

Revolutionary War (until France started helping)
Civil War (technicality)
War of 1812
Korean War (by the Chinese)
Vietnam War

A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many.

SECRET OMG
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
SECRET OMG
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
After)Eight(
Profile Joined March 2003
Germany502 Posts
February 22 2004 16:13 GMT
#22
On February 23 2004 00:32 PanoRaMa wrote:
Vietnam war

Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good.


america lost this war. but actually it wasnt a war, it only was a "conflict", formally...
i hate quote
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:21 GMT
#23
On February 23 2004 01:10 Hot_Bid wrote:
Americans lost:

Revolutionary War (until France started helping)
Civil War (technicality)
War of 1812
Korean War (by the Chinese)
Vietnam War

A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many.


What the fuck are you talking about? Do some research before you post bullshit, man.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:21 GMT
#24
On February 23 2004 00:48 SillyCat wrote:
Vietnam was not a winnable war. We could not fight to our full capacity. Many of the airstrikes that shouldve taken place on cambodian dams, etc didn't happen because we were afraid of China getting involved.


Finally someone with some insight on why the vietnam war went on for 19 some odd years.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:23 GMT
#25
On February 23 2004 01:10 Hot_Bid wrote:
Americans lost:

Revolutionary War (until France started helping)
Civil War (technicality)
War of 1812
Korean War (by the Chinese)
Vietnam War

A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many.


Um the korean war isn't over. Bay of pigs was a CIA operation.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:24 GMT
#26
On February 23 2004 01:13 After)Eight( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2004 00:32 PanoRaMa wrote:
Vietnam war

Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good.


america lost this war. but actually it wasnt a war, it only was a "conflict", formally...

no.. it was a war.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:27 GMT
#27
On February 23 2004 01:24 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2004 01:13 After)Eight( wrote:
On February 23 2004 00:32 PanoRaMa wrote:
Vietnam war

Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good.


america lost this war. but actually it wasnt a war, it only was a "conflict", formally...

no.. it was a war.


Actually I am not too sure as to which "brush fire war" this may apply too although Im inclined to say it was vietnam, Well anyhow the war was never really official.
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
February 22 2004 16:28 GMT
#28
America tied the Korean war. America wanted one capitalist Korea, China wanted one communist Korea. In the end they settled on 2 Koreas. Hence a tie.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
suLTan[CaN]
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada322 Posts
February 22 2004 16:28 GMT
#29
you guys also tried to invade Canada....so we burned down ur white house....but it wasn't the white house back then, it was like brown or green or something, but because white was the cheapest colour to paint it, white paint was used....but don't worry, you have the moral victory of having made the UK your bitch and screwing us out of property (selling of Alaska)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:30 GMT
#30
what does that mean? A war does not have to be declared to be official, it is what it is.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:31 GMT
#31
On February 23 2004 01:28 Hautamaki wrote:
America tied the Korean war. America wanted one capitalist Korea, China wanted one communist Korea. In the end they settled on 2 Koreas. Hence a tie.

Dude they had an armistice, its not over.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:32 GMT
#32
On February 23 2004 01:30 travis wrote:
what does that mean? A war does not have to be declared to be official, it is what it is.


True, but the world has some strange notion that war should have some civility involved thus you must declare war before it becomes official.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:35 GMT
#33
On February 23 2004 01:28 suLTan[CaN] wrote:
you guys also tried to invade Canada....so we burned down ur white house....but it wasn't the white house back then, it was like brown or green or something, but because white was the cheapest colour to paint it, white paint was used....but don't worry, you have the moral victory of having made the UK your bitch and screwing us out of property (selling of Alaska)


uh, I believe you're thinking of the war of 1812. One could say the U.S. lost that war since they did not meet their objective and lost more battles than they won, but no side gained or lost territory.

And btw, no canadian troops were in the attack where the white house got burned down.
Kpone
Profile Joined December 2003
France167 Posts
February 22 2004 16:35 GMT
#34
Anyway who cares about this or that country having lost X number of wars. America is less than 300 years old (1776 independance), France is 1600 + years old (approximately the birth of the first dynasties of "french" kings, 500 AD king "Clovis") so we have fought many more wars and of course have lost many. Ppl of my age (21) are the first french generation not have seen and lived a war... . Ive once met an american that came on europe server just to flame ppl about the Iraq war and saying shit like "france is gay, never won a war since Napoleon" . JUST WHO GIVES A F*CK ABOUT HOW MANY WARS YOUR COUNTRY HAS LOST (apart from ppl interested in history). THis is probably the worst moronic and lame flame i've ever heard on all bnet....
damn i fucked up this one...gg.....re?? ^^
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
February 22 2004 16:36 GMT
#35
hey suLTan could you please check your facts before you make me look bad? USA bought Alaska from Russia. And before you go taking credit for Canadians beating Americans in a war, lets not forget that 'Canada' did not become Canada until a good 50 years AFTER that little skirmish. Great Britain beat USA in the War of 1812, not Canada.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:39 GMT
#36
the usa most definitely did not get 'beat' in the war of 1812.
collegeBored
Profile Joined November 2002
United States1524 Posts
February 22 2004 16:53 GMT
#37
On February 23 2004 00:33 Sky101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2004 00:27 suLTan[CaN] wrote:
On February 23 2004 00:25 SoMuchBetter wrote:
those people you ran into weren't american, they were morons


whats the difference?

Spelling?


i was gonna say 'none' but you're right, i stand corrected
The stupid neither forgive nor forget, the naive forgive and forget, the wise forgive but never forget.
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
February 22 2004 16:59 GMT
#38
hey travis newsflash, the Americans started that war as a war of aggression, part of their manifest destiny. No, Britain did not reconquer the US, but they definately did not get conquered either. Since they didn't start the fight, you can score that one for the Brits. They're only prerogative was to not get conquered. They weren't conquered. They won.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
February 22 2004 17:12 GMT
#39
I think you could refer to a draw as a tie, because both parts lose

always
Moderator
Sirakor
Profile Joined April 2003
Great Britain455 Posts
February 22 2004 17:28 GMT
#40
I think what he's getting at is that in the minds of today's americans there is no memory or imagination of the consequences of a war (excluding soldiers and maybe sept 11th though thats different). hence, you could argue, the public opinion is often more in favour of a war when compared to other countries.

if u or your parents etc have memories of their homes being bombed, their relatives dying AT HOME, their brothers being sent somewhere they have never heard of just to not return ever again, your view on war in general will be different than, for instance, your only experience of war is playing BF1942 sitting on your couch munching popcorn or watching a movie in ur comfy living room...
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Group Stage 1 - Group A
WardiTV647
Rex110
LiquipediaDiscussion
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #112
Krystianer vs SKillousLIVE!
CranKy Ducklings149
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 189
Rex 110
Reynor 94
MindelVK 33
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 8781
Sea 5795
GuemChi 981
actioN 674
Pusan 565
Barracks 430
Hyun 300
Last 212
hero 205
Soma 173
[ Show more ]
Mini 160
Larva 121
PianO 116
Backho 78
ToSsGirL 62
Sharp 47
NaDa 26
Noble 19
scan(afreeca) 8
HiyA 7
Dota 2
Gorgc10162
singsing2214
Pyrionflax261
XcaliburYe199
Counter-Strike
x6flipin707
zeus667
edward51
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor221
Other Games
B2W.Neo1069
Sick145
XaKoH 105
goatrope36
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2855
• WagamamaTV498
League of Legends
• Jankos2798
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
2h 6m
ByuN vs Zoun
TBD vs TriGGeR
Clem vs TBD
IPSL
5h 6m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
7h 6m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
OSC
10h 6m
OSC
20h 6m
Wardi Open
23h 6m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.