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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 13:00:40
August 07 2009 12:59 GMT
#2601
On August 07 2009 21:52 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:47 keV. wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:45 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:44 Carnac wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:42 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:41 Carnac wrote:
SK Telecom T1 4-0 Hwaseung Oz EZ

qft

Now let's just hope we don't get bitch slapped by Karma for being a little obnoxious after not having won PL for so long

Yea.. you never know with this "fair system"


Its funny that people complain about the system. I for one wouldn't even watch proleague if the final games would be decided by matches like ggaemo vs hyuk. Say what you will, but fair isn't much fun.

huh?
Sure ace match / super ace match is FUN to watch, but the other games are fun to watch as well, JD vs Fanta sure was, eh?
It's just about the fact that proleague is a TEAM league and even this team league is getting more about how well individual players might do.
While there is some doubts about the fact that SK > JD or vice versa, there is little to no doubt that SK as a team is waaaay better than Hwaseung.
So would your logic suggest you that Hwaseung is the better team if they go 5-7 in the whole event and only win due to JD scoring 3 times?
To me it would only suggest that Jaedong is in fact an exceptionally great player, but we already know that, don't we?


Well, I just said that I don't think its more fair. It is irrelevant to me who is the better team at the end. I said its more entertaining. That's me personally.

People should just be be careful what they wish for. It's not like sending snipers out on certain maps or against certain players isn't just as indicative of a stronger team strategy, that is still a team skill. The statistics that say that SKT1 is better on paper (they are), is a pretty basic and boring indicator. Wins and losses isn't everything and I don't think it ever should be.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
August 07 2009 13:01 GMT
#2602
i´d be really disappointed though if we dont get to see any ace matches in the grand final. really a pitty that we dont face a stronger TEAM. CJ or KHAN would have put up a much better fight.
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monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
August 07 2009 13:01 GMT
#2603
GJ SKT1 , keep it going.
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
August 07 2009 13:04 GMT
#2604
im sure oz is gonna do better tomorrow!
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
August 07 2009 13:04 GMT
#2605
i hope so
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 07 2009 13:05 GMT
#2606
On August 07 2009 19:52 SaveYourSavior wrote:
Summary of this game

Jaedong outplays Fantasy like crazy

Tank army moves out

Fantasy wins


lol this comment is priceless
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 07 2009 13:06 GMT
#2607
The better team won.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Socio
Profile Joined January 2009
United States17 Posts
August 07 2009 13:06 GMT
#2608
Do we have the matches set for Day2?
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
August 07 2009 13:07 GMT
#2609
On August 07 2009 22:05 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 19:52 SaveYourSavior wrote:
Summary of this game

Jaedong outplays Fantasy like crazy

Tank army moves out

Fantasy wins


lol this comment is priceless

hahahha
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 13:08:33
August 07 2009 13:08 GMT
#2610
On August 07 2009 22:06 Socio wrote:
Do we have the matches set for Day2?

Calendar top right:
http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/month_details.php?calendar_year=2009&calendar_month=8#event_1478
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Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
August 07 2009 13:08 GMT
#2611
Oz's entire proleague strategy has always revolved around JD winning every match they can put him in, and hoping one of the 3 clowns on his team can pull through and luck out a win. Kind of like how Nada was with Pantech back in the day. It's no wonder that their postseason strategy would be any different.

It's a shame too, because at one point they could have had pretty much the scariest Z/P/T lineup out there, with Jaedong/Anytime/Forgg - all of whom were delivering enormous beatings at around the same time around a year ago.

You get the feeling that there was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that really damaged team cohesiveness.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 13:09:24
August 07 2009 13:09 GMT
#2612
Yeah, Jaedong/Anytime/Forgg was a ridiculously strong line-up back then
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 07 2009 13:10 GMT
#2613
Fuck
Yeah
T1
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 13:12:00
August 07 2009 13:11 GMT
#2614
On August 07 2009 22:08 Plutonium wrote:
Oz's entire proleague strategy has always revolved around JD winning every match they can put him in, and hoping one of the 3 clowns on his team can pull through and luck out a win. Kind of like how Nada was with Pantech back in the day. It's no wonder that their postseason strategy would be any different.

It's a shame too, because at one point they could have had pretty much the scariest Z/P/T lineup out there, with Jaedong/Anytime/Forgg - all of whom were delivering enormous beatings at around the same time around a year ago.

You get the feeling that there was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that really damaged team cohesiveness.


This is really stupid. Considering what they've had to work with, they have done fine. Backho was F-d up for a large part of this proleague season and HiyA was playing great in winners league and R4. The fact that Jaedong is a great player shouldn't take anything away from a team who fought tooth and nail to end up in the Grand Finals.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Spritescaper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States63 Posts
August 07 2009 13:13 GMT
#2615
I enjoyed the special event matches more than the finals itself. Am I alone?

Although I wouldn't mind seeing closer, more exciting games, I'm definitely hoping SKT1 pulls away with the win tomorrow... not because I'm an SKT1 fan, but because SKT1 is obviously a much more well-rounded team than Hwaseung is. They deserve this.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 13:16:55
August 07 2009 13:15 GMT
#2616
To paraphrase Grandmaster Artosis, the entirety of Terran strategy for every matchup can be summarized as waiting to get enough tanks to kill an entire army in one volley. Even the short-sighted and simple Terran players can recognize such a great imbalance.


Heh heh heh.

Anyway, hoping for another rape tomorrow~
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 07 2009 13:15 GMT
#2617
Why do SKT fans keep saying "we" as if they're part of the team...
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 07 2009 13:16 GMT
#2618
Reasons why KT should be facing SKT instead of OZ:

It'd be an epic rematch

Oz kind of fails harder, somehow.

>.> <.<;;;
Remember Violet.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
August 07 2009 13:17 GMT
#2619
On August 07 2009 22:13 Spritescaper wrote:
I enjoyed the special event matches more than the finals itself. Am I alone?

Although I wouldn't mind seeing closer, more exciting games, I'm definitely hoping SKT1 pulls away with the win tomorrow... not because I'm an SKT1 fan, but because SKT1 is obviously a much more well-rounded team than Hwaseung is. They deserve this.


the pre-finals games were fun, out of the 4 games of SKT1-Oz I thought only fantasy vs JD was entertaining and the rest was either bad or one sided

also it was nice to see them being all chatty and smiling during the games
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sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
August 07 2009 13:18 GMT
#2620
On August 07 2009 22:15 okum wrote:
Why do SKT fans keep saying "we" as if they're part of the team...



cause its a common thing to do if your a fan of a team.
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