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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 07 2009 12:50 GMT
#2581
Lol owned so horribly T.T
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SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
August 07 2009 12:50 GMT
#2582
On August 07 2009 21:49 iamho wrote:
truly awful, days of hype and nearly 3 hours of pregame for a one and a half hour long match

the prefinals matches were fun to watch though
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
Presony-Boy
Profile Joined April 2007
Israel812 Posts
August 07 2009 12:51 GMT
#2583
game 1 was insane, rest were bad and disappointing

atleast we got to hear some interesting insights by the sc2gg commentaries

- Backho is either Luke Skywalker, Austin Powers or Mini Mi, whereas best is Dart Vader

- Best managed to spot the shuttle with the hts by using the force
Hwasin fan since 15 February 2007 - Hwasin/Calm/Kal Fighting~!
fijosh
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Czech Republic68 Posts
August 07 2009 12:51 GMT
#2584
On August 07 2009 21:48 ChaseR wrote:
GG's!!! Fantasy vs Jaedong was only really good game however...Oz relied on Jaedong to win.

No they didn't .. How can you rely on 1 player in Bo7? ...
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 07 2009 12:51 GMT
#2585
On August 07 2009 21:50 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:49 iamho wrote:
truly awful, days of hype and nearly 3 hours of pregame for a one and a half hour long match

the prefinals matches were fun to watch though

they were better than last 3 games today
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
DIMJkE
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Bulgaria425 Posts
August 07 2009 12:52 GMT
#2586
This is the second match in a row that OZ has been 4-0. Thats really bad record.
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 07 2009 12:52 GMT
#2587
On August 07 2009 21:47 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:45 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:44 Carnac wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:42 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:41 Carnac wrote:
SK Telecom T1 4-0 Hwaseung Oz EZ

qft

Now let's just hope we don't get bitch slapped by Karma for being a little obnoxious after not having won PL for so long

Yea.. you never know with this "fair system"


Its funny that people complain about the system. I for one wouldn't even watch proleague if the final games would be decided by matches like ggaemo vs hyuk. Say what you will, but fair isn't much fun.

huh?
Sure ace match / super ace match is FUN to watch, but the other games are fun to watch as well, JD vs Fanta sure was, eh?
It's just about the fact that proleague is a TEAM league and even this team league is getting more about how well individual players might do.
While there is some doubts about the fact that SK > JD or vice versa, there is little to no doubt that SK as a team is waaaay better than Hwaseung.
So would your logic suggest you that Hwaseung is the better team if they go 5-7 in the whole event and only win due to JD scoring 3 times?
To me it would only suggest that Jaedong is in fact an exceptionally great player, but we already know that, don't we?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 07 2009 12:52 GMT
#2588
I'd love to have my earlier question answered. Right after ggaemo destroyed the spire and hyuk had 2 mutas in his nat and no other antiair, couldn't ggaemo have destroyed the 2 spores in hyuk's main?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
August 07 2009 12:52 GMT
#2589
On August 07 2009 21:52 DIMJkE wrote:
This is the second match in a row that OZ has been 4-0. Thats really bad record.

rofl yeah, 3 matches and 2 of them oz gets 4-0'd
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 07 2009 12:53 GMT
#2590
On August 07 2009 21:52 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:47 keV. wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:45 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:44 Carnac wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:42 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:41 Carnac wrote:
SK Telecom T1 4-0 Hwaseung Oz EZ

qft

Now let's just hope we don't get bitch slapped by Karma for being a little obnoxious after not having won PL for so long

Yea.. you never know with this "fair system"


Its funny that people complain about the system. I for one wouldn't even watch proleague if the final games would be decided by matches like ggaemo vs hyuk. Say what you will, but fair isn't much fun.

huh?
Sure ace match / super ace match is FUN to watch, but the other games are fun to watch as well, JD vs Fanta sure was, eh?
It's just about the fact that proleague is a TEAM league and even this team league is getting more about how well individual players might do.
While there is some doubts about the fact that SK > JD or vice versa, there is little to no doubt that SK as a team is waaaay better than Hwaseung.
So would your logic suggest you that Hwaseung is the better team if they go 5-7 in the whole event and only win due to JD scoring 3 times?
To me it would only suggest that Jaedong is in fact an exceptionally great player, but we already know that, don't we?


But that would be like Cj vs Khan right? Effort winning 3 times on one day?
And i dont see anyone saying that Khan > CJ... right?
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 07 2009 12:55 GMT
#2591
On August 07 2009 21:53 FranzF1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:52 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:47 keV. wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:45 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:44 Carnac wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:42 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:41 Carnac wrote:
SK Telecom T1 4-0 Hwaseung Oz EZ

qft

Now let's just hope we don't get bitch slapped by Karma for being a little obnoxious after not having won PL for so long

Yea.. you never know with this "fair system"


Its funny that people complain about the system. I for one wouldn't even watch proleague if the final games would be decided by matches like ggaemo vs hyuk. Say what you will, but fair isn't much fun.

huh?
Sure ace match / super ace match is FUN to watch, but the other games are fun to watch as well, JD vs Fanta sure was, eh?
It's just about the fact that proleague is a TEAM league and even this team league is getting more about how well individual players might do.
While there is some doubts about the fact that SK > JD or vice versa, there is little to no doubt that SK as a team is waaaay better than Hwaseung.
So would your logic suggest you that Hwaseung is the better team if they go 5-7 in the whole event and only win due to JD scoring 3 times?
To me it would only suggest that Jaedong is in fact an exceptionally great player, but we already know that, don't we?


But that would be like Cj vs Khan right? Effort winning 3 times on one day?
And i dont see anyone saying that Khan > CJ... right?

I never liked that either, except for Effort being super super good at this day.
Teamwise KHAN was at least on par with CJ in these games.
Just not with Effort.
EffOrt > KHAN was it basically.
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
August 07 2009 12:55 GMT
#2592
On August 07 2009 21:48 Carnac wrote:
T1 vs CJ would've been better imho

let's see what happens tomorrow, but I hope for more than just one great game. of course we must still win, but I don't mind it being closer


Damn you SKT1, damn you.
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
August 07 2009 12:55 GMT
#2593
On August 07 2009 21:53 FranzF1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:52 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:47 keV. wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:45 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:44 Carnac wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:42 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:41 Carnac wrote:
SK Telecom T1 4-0 Hwaseung Oz EZ

qft

Now let's just hope we don't get bitch slapped by Karma for being a little obnoxious after not having won PL for so long

Yea.. you never know with this "fair system"


Its funny that people complain about the system. I for one wouldn't even watch proleague if the final games would be decided by matches like ggaemo vs hyuk. Say what you will, but fair isn't much fun.

huh?
Sure ace match / super ace match is FUN to watch, but the other games are fun to watch as well, JD vs Fanta sure was, eh?
It's just about the fact that proleague is a TEAM league and even this team league is getting more about how well individual players might do.
While there is some doubts about the fact that SK > JD or vice versa, there is little to no doubt that SK as a team is waaaay better than Hwaseung.
So would your logic suggest you that Hwaseung is the better team if they go 5-7 in the whole event and only win due to JD scoring 3 times?
To me it would only suggest that Jaedong is in fact an exceptionally great player, but we already know that, don't we?


But that would be like Cj vs Khan right? Effort winning 3 times on one day?
And i dont see anyone saying that Khan > CJ... right?


Movie also won in ace on the first day, while i don't think hwaseung would send anyone other than JD in the ace.
sAviOr...
Khos
Profile Joined October 2008
52 Posts
August 07 2009 12:56 GMT
#2594
On August 07 2009 21:41 foeffa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:38 okum wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:36 foeffa wrote:
Man seeing SKT1 is good, but what gets my blood boiling is that the team that just got raped hardcore denied CJ its rightful place in the finals.

You could say the same thing about CJ denoying Khan its rightful place there...


That makes no sense. However, I'd agree that Khan wouldn't have gotten raped like this on a good day due to having more viable options than OZ, so they 're a better finalist than the latter at least.


It makes perfect sense, CJ denied Khan in the same way that Oz denied CJ, with an ace player that provided the majority of their wins, even though their team was down a victory going into the super-ace match. That's what the current format supports.
YellOw/EffOrt/Jaedong+
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 12:59:24
August 07 2009 12:57 GMT
#2595
On August 07 2009 21:55 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:53 FranzF1 wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:52 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:47 keV. wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:45 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:44 Carnac wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:42 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 07 2009 21:41 Carnac wrote:
SK Telecom T1 4-0 Hwaseung Oz EZ

qft

Now let's just hope we don't get bitch slapped by Karma for being a little obnoxious after not having won PL for so long

Yea.. you never know with this "fair system"


Its funny that people complain about the system. I for one wouldn't even watch proleague if the final games would be decided by matches like ggaemo vs hyuk. Say what you will, but fair isn't much fun.

huh?
Sure ace match / super ace match is FUN to watch, but the other games are fun to watch as well, JD vs Fanta sure was, eh?
It's just about the fact that proleague is a TEAM league and even this team league is getting more about how well individual players might do.
While there is some doubts about the fact that SK > JD or vice versa, there is little to no doubt that SK as a team is waaaay better than Hwaseung.
So would your logic suggest you that Hwaseung is the better team if they go 5-7 in the whole event and only win due to JD scoring 3 times?
To me it would only suggest that Jaedong is in fact an exceptionally great player, but we already know that, don't we?


But that would be like Cj vs Khan right? Effort winning 3 times on one day?
And i dont see anyone saying that Khan > CJ... right?


Movie also won in ace on the first day, while i don't think hwaseung would send anyone other than JD in the ace.



movie's ace match was against hite


edit: only 130 pages for a grand finals thread? such an anti-climactic day
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
August 07 2009 12:57 GMT
#2596
On August 07 2009 21:51 fijosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 21:48 ChaseR wrote:
GG's!!! Fantasy vs Jaedong was only really good game however...Oz relied on Jaedong to win.

No they didn't .. How can you rely on 1 player in Bo7? ...


if jd won the 1st match, it wouldve boosted morale for oz
but, (if) jd lost... it (would've) completely demoralized oz
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 07 2009 12:59 GMT
#2597
OMG SKT on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
August 07 2009 12:59 GMT
#2598
fuck yeah, skt1!

oz raped hard. they better bring lube tomorrow so it wont hurt as bad as today.
oh man, i really feel pitty for the oz guys who got to practice with jaedong now after they returned to their house...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
August 07 2009 12:59 GMT
#2599
So, tomorrow's games.

My take is that SKT has three in the bag, while Oz has one, with the tossups being Canata v. Backho and Thezerg v. Killer. Oz needs to win them both.
raiame
Profile Joined December 2007
United States421 Posts
August 07 2009 12:59 GMT
#2600
On August 07 2009 21:52 Shikyo wrote:
I'd love to have my earlier question answered. Right after ggaemo destroyed the spire and hyuk had 2 mutas in his nat and no other antiair, couldn't ggaemo have destroyed the 2 spores in hyuk's main?

I don't think he had as many mutas as you said he had. It was probably around 8-9 and hyuk also had the 2 mutas and could continue to build spores. Constantly building spores provided a stalemate against ggaemo's mutalisks earlier when there was only one spire at a time, and this time he had an extra existing spire and two mutalisks.
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