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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 04 2009 11:49 GMT
#1181
On August 04 2009 20:48 Jumperer wrote:
lol, iris pulled a page out oov's book, hidden expo for the win.


there
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
sAw
Profile Joined November 2008
965 Posts
August 04 2009 11:50 GMT
#1182
On August 04 2009 20:48 Jumperer wrote:
lol, iris pulled a page out of savior's book, hidden expo for the win.

or was it oov's book :D
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 04 2009 11:50 GMT
#1183
On August 04 2009 20:48 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 20:45 Marine50 wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:45 Ace wrote:
Is this better than Savior vs Iris game 5? Come on, I KNOW everyone remembers "The Dropship"

It was better. Iris won. and the game itself was fucking epic

wtf this game was great but not even close to savior vs iris on arkanoid. no way.


I think I'm gonna watch both. Amazingly my favorite players always seem to end up in some ridiculous clutch game 5 (Xellos vs Yellow in Olympus OSL was clutch)
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
August 04 2009 11:50 GMT
#1184
I think bisu's hallu attack, when it happened (the first one), was called for. He was no where near those expansions with his main army, he did (eventually...) send the re-inforcements to go defend them, but at the time, sending your entire army to deal with a small harras and letting iris get in a more comfortable position (remember, the vast majority of bisu's probes were going to die anyway, there was no way he was stopping that once the drop commenced) would be a worse idea than putting pressure on iris to not let him get a macro lead was just as important imo...

Of course feel free to flame my opinion with how wrong it is everybody =].

PS: im not denying it was bisu's bad decision not having decent defense at those expansions in the first place, just that at the time when it happened, he made an argueably correct decision.
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
August 04 2009 11:50 GMT
#1185
Time for Kwanro. If both CJ's advance today, it's been a really good day.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1186
Go Zero! Hopefully Iris stole all of kwanros CJ karma (since he stole the PL from them by not praticing for it) and Zero can win!!

Even tho, Kwanro v Iris would be intersting considering they are the two most aggresive players in the world.
Abyzou
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden209 Posts
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1187
Holy shit... I got so sweaty after that game, I need to shower once this is over with.

Holy shit. Holyyyyy sshiiiittt. That was epic.
Savior and Jaedong, how come zerg progamers are so awesome?
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1188
--- Nuked ---
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1189
CMON ZERO!!
Prince of the Swarm!

Give me a epic ZvT against Iris =P
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-04 11:54:11
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1190
gg iris, he is great!

but i have to say something: PLS, IF YOU OPEN A FKIN THREAD CAN YOU PUT RESULTS IN IT AFTER EVERY GAME?!

if you aren't able to do this DON'T OPEN it!!! some ppl works or are in different time zones and have no time to read 50 pages to see results of one game... this happens all the time with konadora/mystlord.. ok, you stream games and it's great, many thanks for that... but don't open the threads if you can't put results in it...

i was keepin it for myself last few times but i can't anymore.. i'm on vacation and on island far from land so connection is slower than anything you can imagine and i would like to open thread and just to see a result coz every page i had to open takes eternity.....

EDIT: it's there now, thank you!
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1191
Zero vs Kwanro STARTING!

Zero is red at 11 o'clock
Kwanro is orange at 5 o'clock

will LR if stream doesn't die
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1192
On August 04 2009 20:45 Marine50 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 20:45 Ace wrote:
Is this better than Savior vs Iris game 5? Come on, I KNOW everyone remembers "The Dropship"

It was better. Iris won. and the game itself was fucking epic


Nah.
Back then it was Iris vs undisputed at-his-peak Ma Bonjwa.
CJ Entus vs CJ Entus.
The fifth and final game was played on the map that Iris had won in the first set.

Don't get me wrong, this was still a great series. Iris just loves producing epic Bo5s.
Shinhan 3.
Daum.
Avalon.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1193
On August 04 2009 20:43 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 20:41 OneOther wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:39 Carnac wrote:
Also, he had a huge gas surplus, which is why he made Templars and Hallucination, it was a good decision actually :<

it's not like hallucination itself can cost you the game. it's just he decided to fuck around and attack head on using hallucination instead of going back and saving expos. that's all he had to do. epic game but that was pretty depressing to see the last protoss remaining to go out like that


Quoting this because you're the 4th who's saying this, and it's correct.

People please READ IT.

I am pretty certain that Bisu would not have done it had he known about Iris 4th. He obviously believed he could shut down all of Iris eco or just flat out kill him. Because it was pretty much not scouting that 4th that cost him the game, because he could easily have taken it out if he had only scouted it really newbie mistake to totally miss an expo.
God Hates a Coward
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-04 11:52:57
August 04 2009 11:51 GMT
#1194
On August 04 2009 20:44 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 20:40 BanZu wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:37 Carnac wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:34 BanZu wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:31 Carnac wrote:
On August 04 2009 20:30 Plexa wrote:
I think thats the fucking game of the decade
10x more sick than iris vs savior
Of the decade is a bit of an overstatement :p

But, yeah it was a great game. The whole series was great and sooo close.

Really?

Even if Bisu won I would think that this series was pretty shitty. If Bisu did happen to win the last set, he would've only scraped by. His play was absolutely horrible.
"absolutely horrible"? is this a joke?
I'm not much of a Bisu fan, but we played well enough, lol
Had he bothered to defend a bit instead of continuing his attack (when he cracked 12 etc), I'm positive he would have won btw

That's exactly my point.

IMO, Bisu's mistakes FAR FAR outweighed the correct things he did. All I saw was 1a2a3a4a with minimal positioning during the battle. Everything was just so sloppy.

Bisu's multi-task seems to have fallen a lot relative to what it was during his peak.
I guess you watched a different game than me

I think Bisu played VERY VERY well.

I think Iris played VERY well.

The game was fucking amazing... however. Watch it closely; Bisu was in total control... Iris is basically down to one mining base and is holding on by the skin of his teeth. Iris drops on 7 + 8 and Bisu clear as fucking day goes "Meh, fuck it, I'm just going to steam roll him" and presses into the base... Iris plays VERY well and soaks the attack all the way into his factory line.. this was a fucking killer hold.. no doubt... but Bisu lost his ENTIRE economy for that. That is POOR decision making... no matter how good the hold was from Iris you wont convince me that it was his killer play that won that game rather than Bisu's ONE MASSIVE mistake in ignoring that drop that undid ALL of his fucking great play until that point...

Credit where credit is due.. no doubt... Lesser Terrans would have melted under the pressure... but Bisu was in control and tossed it away in arrogance.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
August 04 2009 11:52 GMT
#1195
On August 04 2009 20:50 Ftrunkz wrote:
I think bisu's hallu attack, when it happened (the first one), was called for. He was no where near those expansions with his main army, he did (eventually...) send the re-inforcements to go defend them, but at the time, sending your entire army to deal with a small harras and letting iris get in a more comfortable position (remember, the vast majority of bisu's probes were going to die anyway, there was no way he was stopping that once the drop commenced) would be a worse idea than putting pressure on iris to not let him get a macro lead was just as important imo...

Of course feel free to flame my opinion with how wrong it is everybody =].

PS: im not denying it was bisu's bad decision not having decent defense at those expansions in the first place, just that at the time when it happened, he made an argueably correct decision.


You're right, but since the harass was on-going, Bisu shouldn't have put himself into that position in the first place - just play defensively and carefully. Other than that, I agree.
Complete the cycle!
animus123
Profile Joined January 2009
United States171 Posts
August 04 2009 11:52 GMT
#1196
alright, enough of this Bisu Clown, it's time for the REAL race to play. GO KWANRO
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 04 2009 11:52 GMT
#1197
Brett speaks the truth
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 04 2009 11:52 GMT
#1198
Wow, Iris is fucking good..
Brood War loyalist
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
August 04 2009 11:52 GMT
#1199
I missed the opening builds ><

Zero with 9 pool, and Pikachu with 12 pool I believe
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
August 04 2009 11:53 GMT
#1200
SO GUYS I HEAR THERE ARE STILL GAMES GOING ON TONIGHT
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
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