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[SPL] Playoffs - Hwaseung Oz vs CJ Entus Day 2 - Page 78

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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
August 02 2009 06:46 GMT
#1541
On August 02 2009 15:37 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:35 Aegraen wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:30 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:29 AlTheCake wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:25 Aegraen wrote:
As a SKT1 fan I'm stoked. SKT1 will win finals with 100% certainty. However, as a Jaedong hater (Terran forever!), and a zerg hater in general, I hoped CJ won. Oh well. SKT1 1a2a3a4a.


I can't believe that this is even possible ;-;

As a zerg hater, you rooted for CJ? Yes, that is immaculate logic. Shouldn've just shunned these matches.


There is no logic fail. Jaedong is the best zerg, therefore I hate him the most and want him to lose every game he plays. If it is a ZvZ obviously I want Jaedong to lose over any other, right? Why would I want the guy I hate the most to advance?

Please do tell, where is the logic fail?


You failed the moment you used the word "hate" with regards to people on another continent you've never met playing a computer game.


It's an American thing I guess. I'm a Buffalo bills fan and I HATE the Cowboys and Dan Marino. Ask any other Bills fan and they will too. It's how Americans view sports.

I'm also a die-hard Tampa Bay Rays fan as I'm from St. Pete and lived there for most of my life. I HATE with a supreme passion the Yankees. There is no other team in this world that even comes close.

Just like if you ask any Englishmen about soccer they'll have teams and players they hate. Ask any Aussie I'm sure they have their most hated Rugby team/players. No different. I'm very passionate when it comes to sports and life in general.

"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
August 02 2009 06:46 GMT
#1542
On August 02 2009 15:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
also, oz won fair and square, they 4-1'd CJ with 3 wins from non-Jaedong

let me give a big FU to all fans (yes, including CJ fans) that complain about format or "one man teams"

seriously stfu


Ok, then you rely its gonna be the same @ Pusan Finals. You rely too much

Watch SKT1 rooster vs Oz one.. no comparision
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
August 02 2009 06:47 GMT
#1543
On August 02 2009 15:39 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:38 MrHoon wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:37 AzureEye wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:32 Aegraen wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:29 AlTheCake wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:25 Aegraen wrote:
As a SKT1 fan I'm stoked. SKT1 will win finals with 100% certainty. However, as a Jaedong hater (Terran forever!), and a zerg hater in general, I hoped CJ won. Oh well. SKT1 1a2a3a4a.


I can't believe that this is even possible ;-;


So everyone must suck on the 'dong? (It's a pun, not clever, but just saying)

Why do you think I'm a rabid SKT1 fan? Terran's are the supreme race!


Worst poster in TL serious...

And Terrans are supreme, supremely overpowered, thats why they have the highest winning percentage in all broadcasted matches ever played

To be honest you aren't that far off.

<3

yeah the only poster that is even close to rivaling Aegraen is that AzureEye dude

+ Show Spoiler +


Hey, do I get some kind of icon next to my name? Plz!
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 02 2009 06:47 GMT
#1544
As much as I'd prefer Oz over SKT1, I really don't see SKT losing. Oz may have the best Zerg but SKT has the best Protoss and the best Terran. And even for ace match, this is the only situation where Jaedong doesn't have advantage, I'd say he's 50/50 against Bisu
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
August 02 2009 06:47 GMT
#1545
On August 02 2009 15:45 GTR wrote:
Proleague Post-Season Records
▶ 프로리그 포스트시즌 통산 다승 순위
1st (Z)Jaedong(화승) 12승 3패
1st (Z)sAviOr(CJ) 12승 8패
3rd (T)sKyHigh(CJ) 9승 1패


wow. skyhigh 9-1
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 02 2009 06:48 GMT
#1546
On August 02 2009 15:46 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
also, oz won fair and square, they 4-1'd CJ with 3 wins from non-Jaedong

let me give a big FU to all fans (yes, including CJ fans) that complain about format or "one man teams"

seriously stfu


Ok, then you rely its gonna be the same @ Pusan Finals. You rely too much

Watch SKT1 rooster vs Oz one.. no comparision

Cute typo.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 02 2009 06:48 GMT
#1547
On August 02 2009 15:47 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:39 JWD wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:38 MrHoon wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:37 AzureEye wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:32 Aegraen wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:29 AlTheCake wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:25 Aegraen wrote:
As a SKT1 fan I'm stoked. SKT1 will win finals with 100% certainty. However, as a Jaedong hater (Terran forever!), and a zerg hater in general, I hoped CJ won. Oh well. SKT1 1a2a3a4a.


I can't believe that this is even possible ;-;


So everyone must suck on the 'dong? (It's a pun, not clever, but just saying)

Why do you think I'm a rabid SKT1 fan? Terran's are the supreme race!


Worst poster in TL serious...

And Terrans are supreme, supremely overpowered, thats why they have the highest winning percentage in all broadcasted matches ever played

To be honest you aren't that far off.

<3

yeah the only poster that is even close to rivaling Aegraen is that AzureEye dude

+ Show Spoiler +


Hey, do I get some kind of icon next to my name? Plz!

a nuke?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
August 02 2009 06:48 GMT
#1548
but shouldnt jd have been able to hold those lings off? why was he overwhelmed by lings??
♠Spades ♣Clubs ♥Hearts ♦Diamonds ★★★★★
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
August 02 2009 06:48 GMT
#1549
I feel so mixed emotionally right now.

God.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
August 02 2009 06:49 GMT
#1550
On August 02 2009 15:44 MrHoon wrote:
as much as I love outsider lets plz not derail this into kpop.


Sorry, there was a commercial on the stream, I was interested in the song :S
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
August 02 2009 06:49 GMT
#1551
On August 02 2009 15:48 alt.tday wrote:
but shouldnt jd have been able to hold those lings off? why was he overwhelmed by lings??


Because Orion had more of them? Jaedong was saving larvae for mutas because his Spire was about to finish.
BW forever || Thall
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 02 2009 06:49 GMT
#1552
On August 02 2009 15:48 alt.tday wrote:
but shouldnt jd have been able to hold those lings off? why was he overwhelmed by lings??


It wasnt the game that mattered. Whats so hard to understand about it... its Starcraft, even the best player doesnt win every game. People have explained it like 5 times -_-
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
August 02 2009 06:49 GMT
#1553
On August 02 2009 15:43 Red_Storm wrote:
Have to agree with viewer, with reference to his meeting July in Gom he really struggled to deal with the mid-late game zerg.



Thank you. I like effort but I feel because of things hes done recently but then faltered from overshadows the rest of the team.

In any case good job to oz look forward to finals.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 02 2009 06:49 GMT
#1554
This is such a stupid result... CJ does better than hwaesung overall (5 wins vs 4 wins) yet due to the retarded super ace match system hwaeung won ;;
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
August 02 2009 06:50 GMT
#1555
JAEEEDOGN!!!!
the throws never bothered me anyway
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
August 02 2009 06:50 GMT
#1556
On August 02 2009 15:42 viewer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:42 viewer wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:35 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Yes this, I belive skyhigh to have most potential, effort concerns me as of late with his play seeming more average. Skyhigh off and on. Perhaps another kal only zerg

I respectfully disagree.
Skyhigh's TvT is flawless, but his TvP and TvZ is mediocre. Yes, his TvZ. If you watch his games, he cheese all the time. Not even creative, just bunker rushing. The last zerg he beat with over 5 wins in his last 10 against Terran was vs JD in WLs.
Obviously, he can step up his vP but vZ but that's how they are right now.

Effort, on the other hand, still has a lot of potential. I don't like how Effort was edging out JD for the best zerg at the moment for awhile, but his last 7 losses really isn't something to be ashamed of if you really look at the circumstances under which they happened. He's strong in all MUs, but just needs the experience.


Upon further thought I will agree, I was perhaps being brash. You bring up essential points with skyhighs tvt but what concerns me is effort even if there were losses from gom and others I honestly just dont feel the confidence I did even from only so few days ago. Perhaps it isnt such a big deal, but I just really love skyhigh and hope for him to do well


The thing that stands out about Skyhigh to me is that he just has so much potential. His playstyle is so unique (a must in today's progaming scene) and effective that it makes you go "wow, how did he get that advantage?". And, with Terran, you can always get better at the late game (Skyhigh's fantastic TvT suggests that he has the potential for all three matchups late game prowess) as well.

Skyhigh continuously manages to get advantages in games (see Zero in MSL) and just needs to get better at not blowing them. Kind of like Fantasy actually but while Fantasy seems like a better build order specialist (why isn't he nicknamed "Surgeon" yet?), it feels like Skyhigh actually has better mechanics.

Between Fantasy, Skyhigh, Leta, and Flash, there's a whole spectrum of entertaining Terrans (yes Flash is entertaining if you understand SC!) out there which is pretty exciting.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
August 02 2009 06:51 GMT
#1557
On August 02 2009 15:49 Plexa wrote:
This is such a stupid result... CJ does better than hwaesung overall (5 wins vs 4 wins) yet due to the retarded super ace match system hwaeung won ;;


Like I said before, every team that has won so far in this system has had the worse record in overall sets. Maybe it's silly, but at least it's consistent!
BW forever || Thall
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 02 2009 06:52 GMT
#1558
On August 02 2009 15:48 alt.tday wrote:
but shouldnt jd have been able to hold those lings off? why was he overwhelmed by lings??


I think that Effort sending his ovie in the right direction while JD sending his to wrong direction had huge impact because JD's ovie couldn't see the what Effort was producing, his ling number
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 02 2009 06:52 GMT
#1559
Did anyone else see Boxer making that disabled guy really happy
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
FMGustave
Profile Joined February 2008
United States81 Posts
August 02 2009 06:52 GMT
#1560
On August 02 2009 15:49 Plexa wrote:
This is such a stupid result... CJ does better than hwaesung overall (5 wins vs 4 wins) yet due to the retarded super ace match system hwaeung won ;;


It's 5-5 actually, unless you don't count the super ace. In either case Hwaseung won the first match so if the system was regular Bo7 Hwaseung would've advanced yesterday.
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