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viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 06:43:50
August 02 2009 06:42 GMT
#1521
oopsie
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 02 2009 06:42 GMT
#1522
On August 02 2009 15:41 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:33 MrHoon wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:27 motbob wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:26 Zzoram wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:20 anderoo wrote:
jaedong deserves a proleague title more than anyone
gl oz


Flash probably deserves a proleague title just as much.

The best terran isn't even Flash anymore, it's the guy on your team.

As a Flash fan I gotta agree with what the others said (NOT U), Fantasy and Flash are pretty evenly matched at the moment, and it is now more of a personal preference.

In a BO1/BO3, I'd bet Flash. But in a BO5, I'd bet Fantasy over Flash anyday.


Honestly I might take it the other way around. Fantasy's ability to just absolute dominate one game is unparalleled in all of SC. His game 4 in OSL (on Plasma no less) against Stork, as well as games 1 and 2 in OSL against Jaedong are great examples of this. His opponent just had NO chance in any of those games.

But, for all the Fantasy rules hype (which I'm a supporter of overall ... he's the best Starleague Terran at the moment without a doubt), he is in the end only 2-2 in BO5s, if I'm not mistaken.

Flash on the other hand has some BO5 fails in his history but he has played so few BO5's lately that it's hard to say (3-0 his only one in the past year, admittedly unconvincingly). It wasn't long before the ForGG and JD debacles (in MSL and GOM respectively) when Flash crushed Bisu and Stork 6-1 in two straight BO5s in a map pool that included Katrina and Troy, two of the worst TvP maps in SC history. Flash's entire problem lately has been isolated games and facepalm builds/mistakes, whether they be BO1s or split BO3s.

i ruv u darktreb <3
dats racist
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
August 02 2009 06:42 GMT
#1523
On August 02 2009 15:36 JIJIyO wrote:
I thought Jaedong said "there's no point in getting nervous". That's what Superdanielman always says about him. Guess his human functions appear here and there when his robot body malfunctions.

And Smix, time to change that mood icon ;_;


hmmmm I think it had something to do with fear, not nervousness
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 06:43:10
August 02 2009 06:42 GMT
#1524
On August 02 2009 15:42 viewer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:35 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Yes this, I belive skyhigh to have most potential, effort concerns me as of late with his play seeming more average. Skyhigh off and on. Perhaps another kal only zerg

I respectfully disagree.
Skyhigh's TvT is flawless, but his TvP and TvZ is mediocre. Yes, his TvZ. If you watch his games, he cheese all the time. Not even creative, just bunker rushing. The last zerg he beat with over 5 wins in his last 10 against Terran was vs JD in WLs.
Obviously, he can step up his vP but vZ but that's how they are right now.

Effort, on the other hand, still has a lot of potential. I don't like how Effort was edging out JD for the best zerg at the moment for awhile, but his last 7 losses really isn't something to be ashamed of if you really look at the circumstances under which they happened. He's strong in all MUs, but just needs the experience.


Upon further thought I will agree, I was perhaps being brash. You bring up essential points with skyhighs tvt but what concerns me is effort even if there were losses from gom and others I honestly just dont feel the confidence I did even from only so few days ago. Perhaps it isnt such a big deal, but I just really love skyhigh and hope for him to do well
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
August 02 2009 06:42 GMT
#1525
On August 02 2009 15:37 Alsar wrote:
PerfectMan and Killer both have huge potential in Oz I think. I don't know why their coach continues to send out people like ggaemo instead. D:

Perfectman is baller. He can perform on stage, he's not nervous, he's clutch, he's awesome. Poor spear/young, their time is over, too many missed opportunities. This guy is the reason i believe Hwaseung can take down SKT (They only need 2 wins if JD is perfect).
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
August 02 2009 06:43 GMT
#1526
On August 02 2009 15:42 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:41 darktreb wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:33 MrHoon wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:27 motbob wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:26 Zzoram wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:20 anderoo wrote:
jaedong deserves a proleague title more than anyone
gl oz


Flash probably deserves a proleague title just as much.

The best terran isn't even Flash anymore, it's the guy on your team.

As a Flash fan I gotta agree with what the others said (NOT U), Fantasy and Flash are pretty evenly matched at the moment, and it is now more of a personal preference.

In a BO1/BO3, I'd bet Flash. But in a BO5, I'd bet Fantasy over Flash anyday.


Honestly I might take it the other way around. Fantasy's ability to just absolute dominate one game is unparalleled in all of SC. His game 4 in OSL (on Plasma no less) against Stork, as well as games 1 and 2 in OSL against Jaedong are great examples of this. His opponent just had NO chance in any of those games.

But, for all the Fantasy rules hype (which I'm a supporter of overall ... he's the best Starleague Terran at the moment without a doubt), he is in the end only 2-2 in BO5s, if I'm not mistaken.

Flash on the other hand has some BO5 fails in his history but he has played so few BO5's lately that it's hard to say (3-0 his only one in the past year, admittedly unconvincingly). It wasn't long before the ForGG and JD debacles (in MSL and GOM respectively) when Flash crushed Bisu and Stork 6-1 in two straight BO5s in a map pool that included Katrina and Troy, two of the worst TvP maps in SC history. Flash's entire problem lately has been isolated games and facepalm builds/mistakes, whether they be BO1s or split BO3s.

i ruv u darktreb <3


Haha much <3 to you too MrHoon!
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
August 02 2009 06:43 GMT
#1527
On August 02 2009 15:41 Ym1r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:40 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:39 Ym1r wrote:
Is anybody still watching the stream? wut was that song the guy was rapping


I was wondering the same thing... he was talking so fast...


yeah

I wasn't watching, but if people are talking about speed, it was almost definitely Outsider - Loner.

아웃사이더 - 외톨이

Writer
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
August 02 2009 06:43 GMT
#1528
Have to agree with viewer, with reference to his meeting July in Gom he really struggled to deal with the mid-late game zerg.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
DeepGray
Profile Joined October 2008
United States214 Posts
August 02 2009 06:43 GMT
#1529
[image loading]

Damn, there's a huge gap between first and even 10th place on rankings.
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
August 02 2009 06:44 GMT
#1530
HELP i still dont get why orion beat jaedong. anyone care to explain that game?
♠Spades ♣Clubs ♥Hearts ♦Diamonds ★★★★★
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
August 02 2009 06:44 GMT
#1531
On August 02 2009 15:36 JIJIyO wrote:
I thought Jaedong said "there's no point in getting nervous". That's what Superdanielman always says about him. Guess his human functions appear here and there when his robot body malfunctions.

And Smix, time to change that mood icon ;_;


It is disappointing but... gotta give props to JD. He is a beast. =l
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 02 2009 06:44 GMT
#1532
as much as I love outsider lets plz not derail this into kpop.
dats racist
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
August 02 2009 06:44 GMT
#1533
On August 02 2009 15:38 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:37 AzureEye wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:32 Aegraen wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:29 AlTheCake wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:25 Aegraen wrote:
As a SKT1 fan I'm stoked. SKT1 will win finals with 100% certainty. However, as a Jaedong hater (Terran forever!), and a zerg hater in general, I hoped CJ won. Oh well. SKT1 1a2a3a4a.


I can't believe that this is even possible ;-;


So everyone must suck on the 'dong? (It's a pun, not clever, but just saying)

Why do you think I'm a rabid SKT1 fan? Terran's are the supreme race!


Worst poster in TL serious...

And Terrans are supreme, supremely overpowered, thats why they have the highest winning percentage in all broadcasted matches ever played

To be honest you aren't that far off.

<3



hmm the competition this days is staggering.... have they let raithed back yet?
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 02 2009 06:45 GMT
#1534
On August 02 2009 15:43 scintilliaSD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:41 Ym1r wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:40 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:39 Ym1r wrote:
Is anybody still watching the stream? wut was that song the guy was rapping


I was wondering the same thing... he was talking so fast...


yeah

I wasn't watching, but if people are talking about speed, it was almost definitely Outsider - Loner.

아웃사이더 - 외톨이

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kkxbaB5xRs


People on TL rock. Seriously
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
August 02 2009 06:45 GMT
#1535
Oh well. Cj made a very good run and stepped up to any level required when needed. Sad that we lost the ace match, but jaedong is very good ZvZ and got plenty to see from effort the past weeks.

I hope the next season CJ can keep a good level so they don't have to go through all of the games playoffs...

gg's.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 02 2009 06:45 GMT
#1536
On August 02 2009 15:44 alt.tday wrote:
HELP i still dont get why orion beat jaedong. anyone care to explain that game?

bad overlord position + all in lings
ModeratorGood content always wins.
yoodeok
Profile Joined April 2009
United States101 Posts
August 02 2009 06:45 GMT
#1537
On August 02 2009 15:40 Hinanawi wrote:
So (Z)EffOrt is currently on a 7-game losing streak. That's...unexpected, to say the least...

Well, it's not like Effort's "physical", as the Koreans call it (APM and accuracy etc.) is as good as Jaedong's. On the contrary, Jaedong's "physical" is said to be "the best ever". He was doing well because of strategies and game sense and whatnot, but Jaedong is such a beast that the very fact that a match between the two is anything resembling even is a great credit to Effort.

Did you see the mutalisk fight that just happened? OGN commentators said, "How can someone be one mutalisk ahead and end up keeping almost all of them while killing all the enemy's mutalisks?! Samsung Khan's great would seem to demonstrate that when you are down a mutalisk or two, it's not a big deal, you can still win, but if Jaedong is one mutalisk ahead, it would appear that it actually is a big deal."
Dad works for Samsung -> automatic rabid Samsung KHAN fanboy. Buy LG and I'll cut you
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 02 2009 06:45 GMT
#1538
On August 02 2009 15:44 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:38 MrHoon wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:37 AzureEye wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:32 Aegraen wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:29 AlTheCake wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:25 Aegraen wrote:
As a SKT1 fan I'm stoked. SKT1 will win finals with 100% certainty. However, as a Jaedong hater (Terran forever!), and a zerg hater in general, I hoped CJ won. Oh well. SKT1 1a2a3a4a.


I can't believe that this is even possible ;-;


So everyone must suck on the 'dong? (It's a pun, not clever, but just saying)

Why do you think I'm a rabid SKT1 fan? Terran's are the supreme race!


Worst poster in TL serious...

And Terrans are supreme, supremely overpowered, thats why they have the highest winning percentage in all broadcasted matches ever played

To be honest you aren't that far off.

<3



hmm the competition this days is staggering.... have they let raithed back yet?


He's permbanned, very doubtful he'll be back.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51454 Posts
August 02 2009 06:45 GMT
#1539
Proleague Post-Season Records
▶ 프로리그 포스트시즌 통산 다승 순위
1st (Z)Jaedong(화승) 12승 3패
1st (Z)sAviOr(CJ) 12승 8패
3rd (T)sKyHigh(CJ) 9승 1패
3rd (T)Sea(MBC게임) 9승 2패
3rd (Z)sigamari(은퇴) 9승 5패
3rd (T)XellOs(공군) 9승 6패
3rd (P)Nal_rA(KT) 9승 10패
8th (P)Stork(삼성전자) 8승 5패
8th (Z)YellOw(공군) 8승 11패
10th (T)Midas(SK텔레콤) 7승 1패
10th (T)Goodfriend(은퇴) 7승 3패
10th (T)Iris(CJ) 7승 10패
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 06:47:39
August 02 2009 06:46 GMT
#1540
On August 02 2009 15:43 scintilliaSD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 15:41 Ym1r wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:40 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
On August 02 2009 15:39 Ym1r wrote:
Is anybody still watching the stream? wut was that song the guy was rapping


I was wondering the same thing... he was talking so fast...


yeah

I wasn't watching, but if people are talking about speed, it was almost definitely Outsider - Loner.

아웃사이더 - 외톨이

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kkxbaB5xRs


It was outsider, but it was a different song

edit: Thanks though, I sounded unappreciative there.
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