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[SPL] Playoffs - Hwaseung Oz vs CJ Entus Day 2 - Page 3

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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 01 2009 15:18 GMT
#41
Yay, Plexa for my favorite mod! ^_^

Can't wait for this to start :/ At least it's not a week between the series... Just one day feels hellish.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 01 2009 15:20 GMT
#42
No super ace prediction?
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
August 01 2009 15:21 GMT
#43
LOL @ Mirrors
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
August 01 2009 15:36 GMT
#44
<.< go Oz go
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 01 2009 15:39 GMT
#45
When was the last time Skyhigh beat a competent zerg without cheese? Or with cheese?
Jaedong
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 15:46:05
August 01 2009 15:44 GMT
#46
On August 01 2009 23:49 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 23:44 mog87 wrote:
On August 01 2009 22:59 Magic84 wrote:
(T)HiyA <<< (T)sKyHigh
Skyhigh is superior

(P)Young >>> (P)Movie
Game of Young's life and he had plenty of time to prepare

(T)Lomo <<< (T)Iris
Iris's better

(Z)Jaedong >>> (Z)Orion
JvZ

(Z)ggaemo <<< (Z)EffOrt
EffOrt is way better

(P)BackHo >>> (Z)Kwanro
zizi yO


Any of ace matches
(Z)Jaedong >>> cheesing (T)sKyHigh


Young over Movie, meh not really a good rationale, buts its PvP and could very well happen. Backho over Kwanro is just plain silly.

I know! I though about it for a bit, just how the hell i'm gonna justify that, but Backho > logic.

Backho's had a positive PVZ since he's got back, and against decent ZvPers too.
Young vs Movie isn't as impossible as it looks because Movie's inconsistent and he's 4-8 in PvP.
Double =[
Jaedong
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
August 01 2009 15:50 GMT
#47
I would just say that CJ should have this but because of yesterday I am questioning this heavily. Hwasung as prepared extremely well for this. Whether it will carry over into to day 2 or not is another thing, but looking at the MU's on paper CJ should have this.
^______________^
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
August 01 2009 15:55 GMT
#48
Man every time i've felt nervous going into the second day, and nervous going into the first, i didn't think CJ would win any, and somehow we did. Yesterday i felt we'd lose, and we did, today i feel it will go to ace, and we'll lose. Somehow i think it might be savior sent, but that's just a random gut instinct. Either way i feel hopeless for CJ .

Predictions:
(T)HiyA < (T)sKyHigh
(P)Young > (P)Movie
(T)Lomo < (T)Iris
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Orion
(Z)ggaemo > (Z)EffOrt
(P)BackHo < (Z)Kwanro

ACE Match:
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)sAviOr/(Z)Kwanro/(Z)EffOrt
sAviOr...
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
August 01 2009 15:57 GMT
#49
On August 02 2009 00:55 Camlito wrote:
Man every time i've felt nervous going into the second day, and nervous going into the first, i didn't think CJ would win any, and somehow we did. Yesterday i felt we'd lose, and we did, today i feel it will go to ace, and we'll lose. Somehow i think it might be savior sent, but that's just a random gut instinct. Either way i feel hopeless for CJ .

Predictions:
(T)HiyA < (T)sKyHigh
(P)Young > (P)Movie
(T)Lomo < (T)Iris
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Orion
(Z)ggaemo > (Z)EffOrt
(P)BackHo < (Z)Kwanro

ACE Match:
(Z)Jaedong > (Z)sAviOr/(Z)Kwanro/(Z)EffOrt


Wow haha
pretty iffy for a CJ fan

even a hardcore Oz fan wouldnt pick ggaemo > Effort
Writerman what
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
August 01 2009 16:01 GMT
#50
I dont thing Skyhigh is sent out for super- ace as well, and it is even more likely as the map is not Destination. If it goes to ACe, Effort seems to be the best choice and he actually has a shot. However, I seriously doubt it goes to super-ace. I have a sense that the preparation of Oz is far better than CJ. More preparation time + hidden strategy, while the opposite team struggled through 2 superace- matches showing probably the best in these matches, mean a lot of advantage for Oz. Just look at how Hyia countered the Movie's build and how Iris failed hard against PerfectMan

Given Konadora is SKT fan, someone pls take over the prediction for the grand final, even he still makes the LR thread. His curse, after kicked out Canata in both leagues (!?), is like stronger than ever :p
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
August 01 2009 16:02 GMT
#51
I don't understand cj's lineup at all
Why would you send out a Zerg on a map that you know jaedong is playing on. Wouldn't it be better to send out movie and hope good movie show and then have savior play young? Last team I saw saviors ZvP, it was decent, I mean he beat bisu twice.
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
August 01 2009 16:12 GMT
#52
On August 02 2009 01:02 OreoBoi wrote:
I don't understand cj's lineup at all
Why would you send out a Zerg on a map that you know jaedong is playing on. Wouldn't it be better to send out movie and hope good movie show and then have savior play young? Last team I saw saviors ZvP, it was decent, I mean he beat bisu twice.


it's probably better to save better players for other matchup.

anything thrown at JD, you're basically throwing it away.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 16:15:49
August 01 2009 16:15 GMT
#53
On August 02 2009 01:02 OreoBoi wrote:
I don't understand cj's lineup at all
Why would you send out a Zerg on a map that you know jaedong is playing on. Wouldn't it be better to send out movie and hope good movie show and then have savior play young? Last team I saw saviors ZvP, it was decent, I mean he beat bisu twice.


Why waste Movie on Jaedong when you could waste Orion? If you swapped their places right now, CJ would have less of a chance to win the series by a lot.

It was like putting Effort up against Jaedong last match, you don't waste your star players on THE star player.
Remember Violet.
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 01 2009 16:17 GMT
#54
I really really really really really really really really really really really really HOPE to see Hwaseung in the same shape than yesterdaqy (yeah its 1:16 am here).

Fighting.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 01 2009 16:21 GMT
#55
On August 02 2009 01:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 01:02 OreoBoi wrote:
I don't understand cj's lineup at all
Why would you send out a Zerg on a map that you know jaedong is playing on. Wouldn't it be better to send out movie and hope good movie show and then have savior play young? Last team I saw saviors ZvP, it was decent, I mean he beat bisu twice.


Why waste Movie on Jaedong when you could waste Orion? If you swapped their places right now, CJ would have less of a chance to win the series by a lot.

It was like putting Effort up against Jaedong last match, you don't waste your star players on THE star player.

Umm... Orion actually has a decent ZvP from what I saw in the chinese tournament =D And his record isn't that bad either.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
August 01 2009 16:33 GMT
#56
On August 02 2009 01:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 01:02 OreoBoi wrote:
I don't understand cj's lineup at all
Why would you send out a Zerg on a map that you know jaedong is playing on. Wouldn't it be better to send out movie and hope good movie show and then have savior play young? Last team I saw saviors ZvP, it was decent, I mean he beat bisu twice.


Why waste Movie on Jaedong when you could waste Orion? If you swapped their places right now, CJ would have less of a chance to win the series by a lot.

It was like putting Effort up against Jaedong last match, you don't waste your star players on THE star player.


The thing is, sending out a zerg against jaedong is basically a loss. We've seen that if good movie and use a creative strategy, he beat jaedong once. Why have 0% chance or beating jaedong with Orion rather than have 5% chance of beating jaedong with movie
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 01 2009 16:37 GMT
#57
(Z)Jaedong vs (Z)Orion and (Z)ggaemo vs (Z)EffOrt are basically auto 1-1, which is better than sending out Effort vs JD, which is risking a 0-1.
CJ definitely has a bigger chance today tbh.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 16:41:44
August 01 2009 16:41 GMT
#58
On August 02 2009 01:33 OreoBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 01:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 02 2009 01:02 OreoBoi wrote:
I don't understand cj's lineup at all
Why would you send out a Zerg on a map that you know jaedong is playing on. Wouldn't it be better to send out movie and hope good movie show and then have savior play young? Last team I saw saviors ZvP, it was decent, I mean he beat bisu twice.


Why waste Movie on Jaedong when you could waste Orion? If you swapped their places right now, CJ would have less of a chance to win the series by a lot.

It was like putting Effort up against Jaedong last match, you don't waste your star players on THE star player.


The thing is, sending out a zerg against jaedong is basically a loss. We've seen that if good movie and use a creative strategy, he beat jaedong once. Why have 0% chance or beating jaedong with Orion rather than have 5% chance of beating jaedong with movie


Because it is better to try to win something with Movie and sacrifice a player (Orion) that wouldn't have high chances to win against anyone anyway.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 01 2009 16:49 GMT
#59
On August 02 2009 01:41 JohnBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 01:33 OreoBoi wrote:
On August 02 2009 01:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 02 2009 01:02 OreoBoi wrote:
I don't understand cj's lineup at all
Why would you send out a Zerg on a map that you know jaedong is playing on. Wouldn't it be better to send out movie and hope good movie show and then have savior play young? Last team I saw saviors ZvP, it was decent, I mean he beat bisu twice.


Why waste Movie on Jaedong when you could waste Orion? If you swapped their places right now, CJ would have less of a chance to win the series by a lot.

It was like putting Effort up against Jaedong last match, you don't waste your star players on THE star player.


The thing is, sending out a zerg against jaedong is basically a loss. We've seen that if good movie and use a creative strategy, he beat jaedong once. Why have 0% chance or beating jaedong with Orion rather than have 5% chance of beating jaedong with movie


Because it is better to try to win something with Movie and sacrifice a player (Orion) that wouldn't have high chances to win against anyone anyway.

That logic fails slightly, since I believe that Orion has a higher chance to win against Young than Movie does.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 17:07:34
August 01 2009 17:01 GMT
#60
....
HiyA <Destination> sKyHigh ................. Perhaps out on a limb a bit, but this is my predicted 'upset'
Young <Colosseum II> Movie ............... Unknown > Proven mediocre
Lomo <Shades of Twilight> Iris ............. He's still on a rampage, should be back in form tonight
Jaedong <God's Garden> Orion .......... It's the week of Jaedong
ggaemo <Neo Medusa> EffOrt ............. Should be an easy call, unless Jaedong broke him down
BackHo <Heartbreak Ridge> Kwanro .. I just don't like Kwanro, or I wouldn't do this.
Closer <Neo Harmony> Closer

Hwaseung OZ < 4 - 2 > CJ Entus

Jaedong <Neo Medusa> sKyHigh ....... If it comes to this..
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