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Reptarem
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
155 Posts
July 25 2009 09:35 GMT
#1241
Khan-Roll?
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 25 2009 10:34 GMT
#1242
what, I come back from poker and I see that khan won!?!?! ):

CJ can do it. I believe it.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
July 25 2009 11:38 GMT
#1243
Effort's play today was like watching Savior play. The familiar early ling pressure, 3-hatch mutas expand + lurkers at 3rd, followed by fast hive and defensive swarms until his econ rolls over FBH.

Kwanro had good reaction to Miracle's FE with 3-hatch before pool. You're supposed to muta harass and mass econ vs mech. He was just a bit late in producing hydras. Also, Miracle killed 3 overlords as he marched toward Kwanro's base so the supply reduction probably limited Kwanro's production.
Marines > everything
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
July 25 2009 11:39 GMT
#1244
On July 25 2009 16:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 16:32 Kentor wrote:
On July 25 2009 16:25 scyper wrote:
My friend who was watching (he knows Korean) says Jangbi saw Movie cancel goon range and started up a new building.

playback showed that Jangbi saw the citadel with manner pylon

Actually, what jangbi saw (at least the replay made it look like this) was movie starting a robo facility in the exact place where movie then canceled the robo fac and built a citadel after jangbi lost vision. I think Jangbi saw that and guessed correctly that movie built the robo fac within his vision in order to then switch tech, and he also guessed that the switch would be to DTs. But maybe I'm wrong. I saw them go into Jangbi's vision in the replay, then click on the warping in building he saw with his dying pylon, and it showed a robo fac.


I didn't watch the replay-review but even if Movie canceled robo for cidatel, Jangbi saw a cannon warping at nat. 2gate robo is quite standard and Jangbi would've opted for reavers (with obs, or a fast nex) had he not seen a cannon. Then he knew that Movie would be concentrating his defence in the front, and decided to DT drop.
Stuck.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 25 2009 11:40 GMT
#1245
Wow, I am actually very surprised by this result. The first three games of course could easily have been won by CJ (which they won two of them), but oDin surprised me the most. Hell, the game could have gone 4-0 in the favor of CJ. This was, imo, CJ's easier day of the two.

Miracle has really been stepping it up in Proleague. Great job to him!

I can't wait for today. Hopefully CJ will step through.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
July 25 2009 12:37 GMT
#1246
Nooo... CJ...
Brood War loyalist
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 25 2009 12:41 GMT
#1247
always wondered why more zergs dont play the way odin did on big macro maps
so effective
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 25 2009 12:41 GMT
#1248
Still waiting for proof of GTR eating his underwear
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 25 2009 12:59 GMT
#1249
fuckk...
CJ
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unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
July 25 2009 13:17 GMT
#1250
Entus soldiers we must hang in tight and have faith in our troops
I believe in CJ
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
July 25 2009 13:20 GMT
#1251
I believe in Samsung. Hope they will beat CJ and advance to play against Jaedong Oz.
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InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
July 25 2009 13:55 GMT
#1252
GG
Just watched the vods. I knew oDin/andromeda would macro IriS to death.
Well done Khan
Stork protoss legend
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
July 25 2009 14:02 GMT
#1253
wow, i have to say i scoffed at khan fans expecting anything but a sweep from CJ, i guess that's what fanboyism gets me
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
July 25 2009 14:09 GMT
#1254
Oh g-d I hope Khan wins, Oz would stomp them
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Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
July 25 2009 14:19 GMT
#1255
On July 25 2009 23:09 n.DieJokes wrote:
Oh g-d I hope Khan wins, Oz would stomp them


Take your lessons from cj fans
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 25 2009 14:24 GMT
#1256
On July 25 2009 20:38 vnlegend wrote:
Effort's play today was like watching Savior play. The familiar early ling pressure, 3-hatch mutas expand + lurkers at 3rd, followed by fast hive and defensive swarms until his econ rolls over FBH.

Kwanro had good reaction to Miracle's FE with 3-hatch before pool. You're supposed to muta harass and mass econ vs mech. He was just a bit late in producing hydras. Also, Miracle killed 3 overlords as he marched toward Kwanro's base so the supply reduction probably limited Kwanro's production.

I beg to differ. You are NOT supposed to muta harrass against mech. You are only supposed to make those mutas to force them to make more Goliaths and turrets. After that's done, you just need to keep your Mutas alive. Attempting to harrass against mech is suicide. He was a bit late with hydras, yes, but had he had those ~6 extra mutas and the other mutas at full health, the outcome still might have been different.
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-25 14:35:42
July 25 2009 14:34 GMT
#1257
On July 25 2009 23:09 n.DieJokes wrote:
Oh g-d I hope Khan wins, Oz would stomp them


STX stomping KHAN would have made sense: STX has a lot of good players.
CJ stomping KHAN would have made sense: CJ has a lot of good players.

OZ stomping KHAN? Not so much. Jaedong, BackHo (if A-team BackHo shows up), and HiyA (if he stops slumping) vs Stork, Jangbi, and great with Lomo and fbh being equally wildcardy... favors KHAN by a long shot.

As for the rest: Juni and Spear are equally incompetent. Miracle's suddenly on fire but Killer's shown some good play recently. oDin is probably about as good as Young, and Frozean/ggaemo is a push. Additionally, KHAN's backups probably have a better chance at taking games from OZ's front line than the other way around (with the exception of Stork who loses to scrubs for no good reason). Also keep in mind that OZ traded away their best Terran. Looking real smart there OZ, now that HiyA's slumping again.

Obviously we've seen that regular season performance isn't a totally reliable predictor (hi, Miracle), but OZ taking a Best of 7 off of anybody, would be an upset. Anybody, including ACE. No, seriously: Anytime, Reach, KONG, GoRush, Casy, Xellos is probably a better lineup than Jaedong, Lomo, HiyA, BackHo, Young, Killer.

Look, it's true that if OZ can steal a win one day and force a super-ace game they've got a great shot, but they're hardly going to stomp anybody.
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TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 25 2009 14:42 GMT
#1258
Oz would actually be favored vs Ace in a Bo7 but against other teams no.
Arf
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
July 25 2009 14:43 GMT
#1259
So what happened to all the 4-0 CJ fanboys? Gone I see. In a best of 7, anything can happen. Unless you have Jaedong, Bisu, Flash, and Leta as your first 4, don't expect 4-0s in the playoffs.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-25 14:52:57
July 25 2009 14:51 GMT
#1260
On July 22 2009 22:39 Nitan wrote:
4-2 Khan. I go with the Protoss.


Never doubt.

On July 25 2009 23:43 hacpee wrote:
So what happened to all the 4-0 CJ fanboys? Gone I see. In a best of 7, anything can happen. Unless you have Jaedong, Bisu, Flash, and Leta as your first 4, don't expect 4-0s in the playoffs.


Leta just went 0-3 this playoff so...
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