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On July 11 2009 20:06 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 20:04 Scaramanga wrote: konadora forgg wasnt a fluke msl winner, he just slumped straight afterward Completely agreed Scara 3-0ing Jaedong and 3-1ing flash is no fluke. forgg's macro and timing in his series against Jaedong is what won him the MSL. Not map imba -_-
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On July 11 2009 20:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Sync was still decent in proleague following his OSL win, which is more than can be said for Forgg.
there was no proleague in 2002. it can be said though he was OKAY before he transferred to KTF, THEN he slumped. similar to forgg how he was okay in lecaf before moving to KTF.
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On July 11 2009 20:06 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 20:04 Scaramanga wrote: konadora forgg wasnt a fluke msl winner, he just slumped straight afterward Completely agreed Scara 3-0ing Jaedong and 3-1ing flash is no fluke. + Show Spoiler + *cough* *cough*
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On July 11 2009 20:06 GTR wrote: er no, everyone just found out his niche of timing rushes and managed to adapt. it's how sync won his osl, and everyone knew how to counter his sparks rush, which is why he never came back to form after his osl win.
same with mind and his tvp
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Expected results, good for my LB. ^^
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Baa?21242 Posts
On July 11 2009 20:08 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 20:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Sync was still decent in proleague following his OSL win, which is more than can be said for Forgg. there was no proleague in 2002. it can be said though he was OKAY before he transferred to KTF, THEN he slumped. similar to forgg how he was okay in lecaf before moving to KTF.
I seem to recall him still being decent when he was playing for KTF in proleague?
edit: or whatever the team leagues were called back then? Weren't they just "Team Leagues?"
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konadora
Singapore66131 Posts
On July 11 2009 20:09 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 20:06 Kuja900 wrote:On July 11 2009 20:04 Scaramanga wrote: konadora forgg wasnt a fluke msl winner, he just slumped straight afterward Completely agreed Scara 3-0ing Jaedong and 3-1ing flash is no fluke. + Show Spoiler +*cough* *cough* + Show Spoiler + hey...
TheRock is awesome okay???
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On July 11 2009 19:50 Jaksiel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 19:48 Highways wrote: - Traditionally ZvP is the most imba matchup in Starcraft (closely followed by TvZ, with TvP the most even) I thought traditionally TvZ is more imba than ZvP.
General consensus is that ZvP was the most imba matchup. But I've always believed TvZ was.
Statistically TvZ is the most imbalanced according to TLPD as well I believe.
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Baa?21242 Posts
On July 11 2009 20:12 Highways wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 19:50 Jaksiel wrote:On July 11 2009 19:48 Highways wrote: - Traditionally ZvP is the most imba matchup in Starcraft (closely followed by TvZ, with TvP the most even) I thought traditionally TvZ is more imba than ZvP. General consensus is that ZvP was the most imba matchup. But I've always believed TvZ was. Statistically TvZ is the most imbalanced according to TLPD as well I believe.
TvZ is definitely imba, since it's always like 54-55%. Post-Bisu ZvP is <50% according to the TLPD stats thread.
On November 23 2008 20:48 PoP wrote:
Pre-Bisu-vs-Savior ZvP: 682-547 (55.49%) Post-Bisu-vs-Savior ZvP: 300-308 (49.34%)
Revolution much?
Of course this is somewhat out of date, but I doubt post Bisu-Savior ZvP is much higher than 50%.
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On July 11 2009 20:06 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 20:04 Scaramanga wrote: konadora forgg wasnt a fluke msl winner, he just slumped straight afterward er no, everyone just found out his niche of timing rushes and managed to adapt. it's how sync won his osl, and everyone knew how to counter his sparks rush, which is why he never came back to form after his osl win. Imho thats a better description of Mind and his tvp.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On July 11 2009 19:41 T.O.P. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 19:37 Jefferson wrote: does it only look imba when JD is playing, or is PvZ pretty hard nowadays?
I read in a LR thread a few days after the zero vs bisu game that zergs went 27-8 in the last 35 pro zvp matches. i dunno.. that's about... like.. 77% zvp
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konadora
Singapore66131 Posts
Anyone noticed how Zergs started raping after YellOw defeated Bisu?
DUN DUN DUN
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Baa?21242 Posts
On July 11 2009 20:22 konadora wrote: Anyone noticed how Zergs started raping after YellOw defeated Bisu?
DUN DUN DUN
Hong Jin Ho returns to raise up the banner of the Zergs.
Remember that, even today, Hong Jin Ho holds the record for longest time spent as the top Zerg in Kespa rankings. YellOw forever!
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On July 11 2009 20:22 konadora wrote: Anyone noticed how Zergs started raping after YellOw defeated Bisu?
DUN DUN DUN
Yellow basically canceled out the morale boost Bisu gave Protoss after beating bonjwa-Savior. After that series all the toss were like "Hey, PvZ is possible!" After Yellow's win all the Zerg are like "Wait. Protoss sucks lol."
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On July 11 2009 20:22 konadora wrote: Anyone noticed how Zergs started raping after YellOw defeated Bisu?
DUN DUN DUN Hey I pointed that out in my Statistics thing. You just generalized it D:
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konadora
Singapore66131 Posts
Lol I didnt read that
hivemind yo
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Forgg still not used to KTF?
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On July 11 2009 19:48 Highways wrote: Its both: - Bisu was complaining about maps a couple months ago and looks like he was right. - Traditionally ZvP is the most imba matchup in Starcraft (closely followed by TvZ, with TvP the most even) When people say Protoss is easy to play, they are referring to amateur level rather than pro level.
SKT1 fanboy - CHECK immature "I hate Terrans" signature - CHECK
Don't you have anything better to do like watching Bisu's games in the OSL ? OH WAIT
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konadora
Singapore66131 Posts
On July 11 2009 21:03 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 19:48 Highways wrote: Its both: - Bisu was complaining about maps a couple months ago and looks like he was right. - Traditionally ZvP is the most imba matchup in Starcraft (closely followed by TvZ, with TvP the most even) When people say Protoss is easy to play, they are referring to amateur level rather than pro level.
SKT1 fanboy - CHECK immature "I hate Terrans" signature - CHECK Don't you have anything better to do like watching Bisu's games in the OSL ? OH WAIT What's with this post?
Bisu did complain Zergs figured out how to play on the maps better
That's not a way to talk to a forum vet
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