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Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
July 05 2009 12:04 GMT
#701
On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss


You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense

Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind.


Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win.

I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come.
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 12:06:54
July 05 2009 12:05 GMT
#702
On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss


You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense

Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind.


Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win.

I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come.


Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately

(Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself)
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
July 05 2009 12:08 GMT
#703
Coincidentally, Flash is playing on Outsider again tomorrow, while Shuttle is playing again on Heartbreak. Epic rematch Destination ace match???
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 05 2009 12:08 GMT
#704
On July 05 2009 21:05 Tinithor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss


You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense

Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind.


Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win.

I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come.


Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately

(Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself)


He is not going to quote things that prove his idiocy.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
July 05 2009 12:10 GMT
#705
On July 05 2009 21:05 Tinithor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss


You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense

Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind.


Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win.

I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come.


Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately

(Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself)

Isn't that kind of like a contain? Containing someone is offense
The two situations are different. If Flash would have been a little more offensive and attacked after the crap proxy, he probably could have won. Instead he turtled and fell behind again after losing the first 2 or so battles.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
July 05 2009 12:10 GMT
#706
Now now gentlemen, he hasn't called anyone a name, you don't need to either.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Realistically though, the opinion should have some merit.
Don't you agree?
ModeratorGodfather
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 05 2009 12:11 GMT
#707
On July 05 2009 20:51 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 20:50 Raithed wrote:
btw shuttle vs flash, the end game, flash has 3 tanks and shuttle has 1 goon lol. we know who would win that, right?

Spidermines


I counter your spidermines with spiderpigs
[image loading]
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 05 2009 12:12 GMT
#708
On July 05 2009 21:10 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 21:05 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss


You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense

Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind.


Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win.

I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come.


Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately

(Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself)

Isn't that kind of like a contain? Containing someone is offense
The two situations are different. If Flash would have been a little more offensive and attacked after the crap proxy, he probably could have won. Instead he turtled and fell behind again after losing the first 2 or so battles.


So BASICALLY you are just saying that you think flash turtled, you don't like the word turtle, nothing we say can change this point of view, and that you are ultimately wasting all of our time for no reason. Ok

Also NO its not a contain if you just split the map in half and wait for the zerg to attack you
Zerg can't beat 200/200 terran either so if the terran gets an advantage early by defeating the 5 pool and then defends his half of the map the rest of the game he WILL win.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
July 05 2009 12:13 GMT
#709
On July 05 2009 21:10 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 21:05 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss


You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense

Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind.


Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win.

I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come.


Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately

(Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself)

Isn't that kind of like a contain? Containing someone is offense
The two situations are different. If Flash would have been a little more offensive and attacked after the crap proxy, he probably could have won. Instead he turtled and fell behind again after losing the first 2 or so battles.


I banned you as a compliment. I banned you because I do not think you are this dumb, so I can only conclude that you are trolling. And, after already being warned, you continued.

Just on the off chance that you are this dumb though, Flash actually did have a containment in that game. He contained the resources, and forced Shuttle to attack. It was an excellent containment I think.

See you in a couple days!
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 12:15:32
July 05 2009 12:14 GMT
#710
On July 05 2009 21:11 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 20:51 Nokeboy wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:50 Raithed wrote:
btw shuttle vs flash, the end game, flash has 3 tanks and shuttle has 1 goon lol. we know who would win that, right?

Spidermines


I counter your spidermines with spiderpigs
[image loading]


[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
dont hate me steve
ModeratorGodfather
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 05 2009 12:14 GMT
#711
On July 05 2009 21:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Now now gentlemen, he hasn't called anyone a name, you don't need to either.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Realistically though, the opinion should have some merit.
Don't you agree?


amen.

I thought his reception of a baseless opinion was handled fairly. Direct name calling didn't happen and he was given plenty of perspective and information and opportunity to perhaps change his wording and maybe even his opinion.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 12:15:51
July 05 2009 12:15 GMT
#712
*Huge sigh of relief*

Thank you SO much Mani... for saving us from this horrendous predicament.
Graphics
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 05 2009 12:15 GMT
#713
On July 05 2009 21:14 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 21:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Now now gentlemen, he hasn't called anyone a name, you don't need to either.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Realistically though, the opinion should have some merit.
Don't you agree?


amen.

I thought his reception of a baseless opinion was handled fairly. Direct name calling didn't happen and he was given plenty of perspective and information and opportunity to perhaps change his wording and maybe even his opinion.


I never once called him anything, i may have been heavily sarcastic but i didn't actually insult him.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 05 2009 12:16 GMT
#714
On July 05 2009 21:15 Tinithor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 21:14 keV. wrote:
On July 05 2009 21:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Now now gentlemen, he hasn't called anyone a name, you don't need to either.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Realistically though, the opinion should have some merit.
Don't you agree?


amen.

I thought his reception of a baseless opinion was handled fairly. Direct name calling didn't happen and he was given plenty of perspective and information and opportunity to perhaps change his wording and maybe even his opinion.


I never once called him anything, i may have been heavily sarcastic but i didn't actually insult him.


Don't think anyone did in a direct fashion.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
July 05 2009 12:17 GMT
#715
Good job men! We defeated the evil troll by banding together and standing our ground. We did not give an inch, and finally, frustrated beyond all measure, he cast himself on our defenses, rending his guts and spilling his blood. Had we not defended so mightily, we may have lost to his cheesy tactics.
ModeratorGodfather
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 05 2009 12:19 GMT
#716
On July 05 2009 21:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
Good job men! We defeated the evil troll by banding together and standing our ground. We did not give an inch, and finally, frustrated beyond all measure, he cast himself on our defenses, rending his guts and spilling his blood. Had we not defended so mightily, we may have lost to his cheesy tactics.

ahahahahhahahahahaa
dats racist
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
July 05 2009 12:19 GMT
#717
I guess the best offense is a FlaSh-like DEFENSE.
Graphics
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 05 2009 12:20 GMT
#718
On July 05 2009 21:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
Good job men! We defeated the evil troll by banding together and standing our ground. We did not give an inch, and finally, frustrated beyond all measure, he cast himself on our defenses, rending his guts and spilling his blood. Had we not defended so mightily, we may have lost to his cheesy tactics.


HUZZAH~!
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 05 2009 12:22 GMT
#719
I'm very amused by the parallelism.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 12:24:48
July 05 2009 12:23 GMT
#720
In other news, today is Flash's Birthday!

Wow what a great birthday game indeed.
dats racist
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