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On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind. Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win.
I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come.
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On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind. Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win. I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come.
Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately
(Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself)
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Coincidentally, Flash is playing on Outsider again tomorrow, while Shuttle is playing again on Heartbreak. Epic rematch Destination ace match???
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On July 05 2009 21:05 Tinithor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind. Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win. I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come. Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately (Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself)
He is not going to quote things that prove his idiocy.
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On July 05 2009 21:05 Tinithor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind. Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win. I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come. Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately (Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself)
Isn't that kind of like a contain? Containing someone is offense
The two situations are different. If Flash would have been a little more offensive and attacked after the crap proxy, he probably could have won. Instead he turtled and fell behind again after losing the first 2 or so battles.
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Osaka27174 Posts
Now now gentlemen, he hasn't called anyone a name, you don't need to either.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Realistically though, the opinion should have some merit.
Don't you agree?
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On July 05 2009 20:51 Nokeboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 20:50 Raithed wrote:
btw shuttle vs flash, the end game, flash has 3 tanks and shuttle has 1 goon lol. we know who would win that, right? Spidermines
I counter your spidermines with spiderpigs
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On July 05 2009 21:10 Nokeboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 21:05 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind. Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win. I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come. Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately (Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself) Isn't that kind of like a contain? Containing someone is offense The two situations are different. If Flash would have been a little more offensive and attacked after the crap proxy, he probably could have won. Instead he turtled and fell behind again after losing the first 2 or so battles.
So BASICALLY you are just saying that you think flash turtled, you don't like the word turtle, nothing we say can change this point of view, and that you are ultimately wasting all of our time for no reason. Ok
Also NO its not a contain if you just split the map in half and wait for the zerg to attack you
Zerg can't beat 200/200 terran either so if the terran gets an advantage early by defeating the 5 pool and then defends his half of the map the rest of the game he WILL win.
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Osaka27174 Posts
On July 05 2009 21:10 Nokeboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 21:05 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 21:04 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:02 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 21:01 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 21:00 Tinithor wrote:On July 05 2009 20:59 Nokeboy wrote:
Oh well my hero July will have to fight the turtling terran to get into the finals instead of can't-break-the-turtle protoss You have NO argument here. If the other player is being offensive then you HAVE to be defensive... Should a player who beats a 5 pool by defending not count as winning cause he just turtled? You make no sense Ummmm, they don't win by defending the 5 pool. They win by attacking after the 5 pool because the zerg failed his rush so is extremely behind. Or you could just expand and defend all bases on the map till the zerg mines out, why wouldn't that count? It would take longer but it would still win. I don't think that would work. The reason I like ZvT because if the terran turtles too long they eventually get ran over by dark swarm and ultralisks. So they actually have to have a real strategy to take them down before ultra/swarm come. Nah if you turtle at the halfway point of the map and you micro well you can be more cost effective than the zerg and turtle indefinately (Oh and don't forget to respond to the fact that you have contradicted yourself) Isn't that kind of like a contain? Containing someone is offense The two situations are different. If Flash would have been a little more offensive and attacked after the crap proxy, he probably could have won. Instead he turtled and fell behind again after losing the first 2 or so battles.
I banned you as a compliment. I banned you because I do not think you are this dumb, so I can only conclude that you are trolling. And, after already being warned, you continued.
Just on the off chance that you are this dumb though, Flash actually did have a containment in that game. He contained the resources, and forced Shuttle to attack. It was an excellent containment I think.
See you in a couple days!
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Osaka27174 Posts
On July 05 2009 21:11 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 20:51 Nokeboy wrote:On July 05 2009 20:50 Raithed wrote:
btw shuttle vs flash, the end game, flash has 3 tanks and shuttle has 1 goon lol. we know who would win that, right? Spidermines I counter your spidermines with spiderpigs
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On July 05 2009 21:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Now now gentlemen, he hasn't called anyone a name, you don't need to either.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Realistically though, the opinion should have some merit.
Don't you agree?
amen.
I thought his reception of a baseless opinion was handled fairly. Direct name calling didn't happen and he was given plenty of perspective and information and opportunity to perhaps change his wording and maybe even his opinion.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
*Huge sigh of relief*
Thank you SO much Mani... for saving us from this horrendous predicament.
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On July 05 2009 21:14 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 21:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Now now gentlemen, he hasn't called anyone a name, you don't need to either.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Realistically though, the opinion should have some merit.
Don't you agree? amen. I thought his reception of a baseless opinion was handled fairly. Direct name calling didn't happen and he was given plenty of perspective and information and opportunity to perhaps change his wording and maybe even his opinion.
I never once called him anything, i may have been heavily sarcastic but i didn't actually insult him.
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On July 05 2009 21:15 Tinithor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 21:14 keV. wrote:On July 05 2009 21:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Now now gentlemen, he hasn't called anyone a name, you don't need to either.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Realistically though, the opinion should have some merit.
Don't you agree? amen. I thought his reception of a baseless opinion was handled fairly. Direct name calling didn't happen and he was given plenty of perspective and information and opportunity to perhaps change his wording and maybe even his opinion. I never once called him anything, i may have been heavily sarcastic but i didn't actually insult him.
Don't think anyone did in a direct fashion.
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Osaka27174 Posts
Good job men! We defeated the evil troll by banding together and standing our ground. We did not give an inch, and finally, frustrated beyond all measure, he cast himself on our defenses, rending his guts and spilling his blood. Had we not defended so mightily, we may have lost to his cheesy tactics.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On July 05 2009 21:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
Good job men! We defeated the evil troll by banding together and standing our ground. We did not give an inch, and finally, frustrated beyond all measure, he cast himself on our defenses, rending his guts and spilling his blood. Had we not defended so mightily, we may have lost to his cheesy tactics.
ahahahahhahahahahaa
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
I guess the best offense is a FlaSh-like DEFENSE.
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On July 05 2009 21:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
Good job men! We defeated the evil troll by banding together and standing our ground. We did not give an inch, and finally, frustrated beyond all measure, he cast himself on our defenses, rending his guts and spilling his blood. Had we not defended so mightily, we may have lost to his cheesy tactics.
HUZZAH~!
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I'm very amused by the parallelism.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
In other news, today is Flash's Birthday!
Wow what a great birthday game indeed.
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