(T)Flash < Return of the King > (Z)Jaedong Flash's impeccable timing pushes were run over by Yarnc in an earlier OSL game. I think Jaedong will run over Flash.
(P)BackHo < Holy World > (P)Stork Backho's only "good" matchup is PvP. However, Stork recently took a game off of Bisu. Advantage Stork.
On July 01 2009 03:26 DreaM)XeRO wrote: (T)Flash < Return of the King > (Z)Jaedong Flash's impeccable timing pushes were run over by Yarnc in an earlier OSL game. I think Jaedong will run over Flash.
(P)BackHo < Holy World > (P)Stork Backho's only "good" matchup is PvP. However, Stork recently took a game off of Bisu. Advantage Stork.
people picking stork over backho need to look up TLPD stats 1st. Blackho almost ALWAYS beat stork. ALL THE TIME.
Im going to have to go with JD, Backho, Hwasin and Leta. Hopefully JD vs Flash will fulfill anticipation. I almost hope Flash wins (even though I like JD better) just so that they can both advance into the Ro8.
On July 01 2009 04:13 Ideas wrote: people picking stork over backho need to look up TLPD stats 1st. Blackho almost ALWAYS beat stork. ALL THE TIME.
Im going to have to go with JD, Backho, Hwasin and Leta. Hopefully JD vs Flash will fulfill anticipation. I almost hope Flash wins (even though I like JD better) just so that they can both advance into the Ro8.
Flash > Jaedong BackHo < Stork Bisu < Hwasin (only because of the other awesome Outsider game between the two, but I do want Bisu in this OSL) Leta > Canata
Predicting: Flash > Jaedong: Flash has not been doing against Jaedong in his last few games, and I think he really needs to prove his TvZ, especially after his last embarrassing loss. After his game this morning + Show Spoiler +
with FBH
, I think he'll be even more pumped to practice for this match.
BackHo > Stork Just because.
Bisu > Hwasin I can't see him losing again, even though Hwasin has been playing extremely well.
On July 01 2009 06:56 MuffinDude wrote: After watching stork's play during incruit osl, I was really sad. I remember the times when stork was playing outstanding sc. =(
I picked jaedong, he seems so much stronger recently than flash. But I hope flash wins because I want him to advance and he's already down 0-1 and I felt bad for him to way he lost to yarnc(even though it was all his fault)
On July 01 2009 04:13 Ideas wrote: people picking stork over backho need to look up TLPD stats 1st. Blackho almost ALWAYS beat stork. ALL THE TIME.
Im going to have to go with JD, Backho, Hwasin and Leta. Hopefully JD vs Flash will fulfill anticipation. I almost hope Flash wins (even though I like JD better) just so that they can both advance into the Ro8.
What an epic round of games this is going to be. Flash has a lot to prove tonight, and I think he has it in him.
I just want to say though, I love you Team Liquid! This is such a great community, and there is nothing like following great games like these along with you.
On July 01 2009 08:59 scyper wrote: If Bisu loses this game, is he out of OSL? Since he will have lost to go.go and Hwasin?
Edit: answered above. Re-edit: To clarify, one player needs to go 3-0 while the others go 1-2. The remaining 1-2 players will do RR cycles until one player goes 2-0. (Theoretically, a 2-0 player who is already clinched could purposely lose his final game to affect who would advance.)
Flash > Jaedong- No "Special" build this time for Flash. Flash has shown he can play against Jaedong Since this is a basic coin toss, I'm siding with Flash. Why not?
BackHo > Stork- BackHo, much to my despair, has somehow manage to pull wins against hot PvPer Kal and Flash in Proleague and conveniently spite my FPL team. With Stork looking like he can't win against anyone and somehow losing to type-b (who did play well though) despite massacring so much overlords that type-b had a 170/80 supply, Stork will lose this one.
Bisu > Hwasin- Crazy things have happened and with the red-hot Hwasin stacked up against his mortal enemy and S-rank player Bisu, this match looks to be a good one. However, Hwasin's subpar TvP record looks to be his demise. Bisu will win this one.
Leta < Canata- Canata will drag this TvT in vintage Canata Style. The TvT will span for 1+ hours, making half of the crowd sleep. Leta will be so bored he'll move his BCs to Canata's and watch them die just to End the agony.
On July 01 2009 06:43 Orbifold wrote: I'm worried about Flash, I hope he doesn't cry after Jaedong beats him. He seems like such a nice guy and I don't want to see him get hurt
On July 01 2009 06:43 Orbifold wrote: I'm worried about Flash, I hope he doesn't cry after Jaedong beats him. He seems like such a nice guy and I don't want to see him get hurt
Fixed
Heh... I knew I messed up something with that post
On July 01 2009 04:13 Ideas wrote: people picking stork over backho need to look up TLPD stats 1st. Blackho almost ALWAYS beat stork. ALL THE TIME.
Im going to have to go with JD, Backho, Hwasin and Leta. Hopefully JD vs Flash will fulfill anticipation. I almost hope Flash wins (even though I like JD better) just so that they can both advance into the Ro8.
Actually Stork is 5-4 against Backho all-time
lol that makes me look like a total jackass
don't worry about it. I understood that your point was that Backho does better at PvP vs Stork than most of the other protoss players. Still, imo Stork will win this
Expecting Flash to win on a standard map like ROTK. He can 1 rax CC (Which hopefully he does, no mech please Flash) and I think he'll have the advantage over any 2 hatch muta thing Jaedong throws at him.
On July 01 2009 11:39 Vasoline73 wrote: Expecting Flash to win on a standard map like ROTK. He can 1 rax CC (Which hopefully he does, no mech please Flash) and I think he'll have the advantage over any 2 hatch muta thing Jaedong throws at him.
You should expect Jaedong to go 3 hatch muta if Flash doesn't mech
On July 01 2009 11:51 scwizard wrote: "(T)Leta 62%-38% (T)Canata" No way is that accurate. The statistics must have been fashioned without regarding race.
leta is REALLY good vs T. That's probably his best MU even though statistically TvZ is his best.
anyone else watching the best flash vs JD VODs from the past?
currently watching their game on rush hour 3 from winners league, later going to watch them on: neo harmony @ lost saga MSL Loki II @ GOMTV S4 MSL Katrina SE @ all-star match
Cant wait for Flash to show his Terran awesomeness Little worry for Stork though, Cant decide between Bisu and Hwasin Go Leta go! some Wraith control, anyone?
Flash > JD ; Flash is stronger atm Stork > BackHo ; Stork is bad, but not BackHo terribad Bisu <? Hwasin ; Bisu will either 2-0 vT today or 0-2, I'm guessing 0-2 Canata > Leta ; Canata is a pimp
Is there some secret to getting VLC stream to work? I've been trying to get it to work in wmp for the past half hour without becoming a horrible, 2 minutes of buffering every 1 minute of video mess, but it just isn't working for me. =(
On July 01 2009 18:23 Jaksiel wrote: Well, I was going to go to sleep, but it would be ridiculous to NOT stay up an extra half hour or so to watch Jaedong-Flash.
You're wasting your time, as JD will make very short work of Flash.
Jaedong should expect early strategic play from Flash since he'd been practicing nonstop TvP for the Khan match to try and keep his team in playoff contention.
On July 01 2009 18:36 NovaTheFeared wrote: Jaedong should expect early strategic play from Flash since he'd been practicing nonstop TvP for the Khan match to try and keep his team in playoff contention.
You sure he was practicing nonstop TvP to play a rookie on Destination, in a game where he ended up playing his standard TvP strat that basically always works against lesser players?
On July 01 2009 18:36 NovaTheFeared wrote: Jaedong should expect early strategic play from Flash since he'd been practicing nonstop TvP for the Khan match to try and keep his team in playoff contention.
Or he had been practicing nonstop TvZ for OSL to try and keep himself in Ro8 contention.
On July 01 2009 18:36 NovaTheFeared wrote: Jaedong should expect early strategic play from Flash since he'd been practicing nonstop TvP for the Khan match to try and keep his team in playoff contention.
You sure he was practicing nonstop TvP to play a rookie on Destination, in a game where he ended up playing his standard TvP strat that basically always works against lesser players?
He said in the interview that he practiced TvP on Medusa, anticipating JangBi or Stork.
On July 01 2009 18:36 NovaTheFeared wrote: Jaedong should expect early strategic play from Flash since he'd been practicing nonstop TvP for the Khan match to try and keep his team in playoff contention.
You sure he was practicing nonstop TvP to play a rookie on Destination, in a game where he ended up playing his standard TvP strat that basically always works against lesser players?
Flash himself said in the interview he was intended to play ace against Khan tosses, not TvT/TvZ. He also said he practiced a lot for his first game. He was practicing TvP destination and TvP Medusa, so it seems there would be less time for TvZ on Rotk.
Jaedong keeping the marine count very low, but flash managed to makes several turrets at his nats and near the factory/rax. A ling tries to pull a mine to the goliath, nice1
flash why oh why do you have to play so retardedly play standard, what the fuck, ez win if you played standard T_T atcually that was doomed to fail after a failed proxy like that, ahwell
On July 01 2009 06:43 Orbifold wrote: I'm worried about Jaedong, I hope he doesn't cry after Flash beats him. He seems like such a nice guy and I don't want to see him get hurt
On July 01 2009 06:43 Orbifold wrote: I'm worried about Jaedong, I hope he doesn't cry after Flash beats him. He seems like such a nice guy and I don't want to see him get hurt
whos crying now?
Jaedong does not cry. Unless its tears of victory. If he loses he just puts on the rape face.
kinda expected this. as usual, flash vs jaedong games are always rape from the winner. only a couple of there games are really close. Sad for flash... Well, lets just settle with MSL then.
So stupid from Flash. If you're going to come up with a dumb ass strat, at least make it entertaining for the viewer. Your 1 rax CC play against 2 hatch muta has gotten so good Flash, and you insist on the dumbest build ever that you can't even execute. T_T.
What needs to happen for a tiebreaker? Or is Flash done for good?
On July 01 2009 18:56 Vasoline73 wrote: So stupid from Flash. If you're going to come up with a dumb ass strat, at least make it entertaining for the viewer. Your 1 rax CC play against 2 hatch muta has gotten so good Flash, and you insist on the dumbest build ever that you can't even execute. T_T.
What needs to happen for a tiebreaker? Or is Flash done for good?
It's not impossible. He needs JD > Yarnc (likely), and Effort > Yarnc (dicier, around 50/50 probably), as well as Flash > Effort of course.
On July 01 2009 18:56 Vasoline73 wrote: So stupid from Flash. If you're going to come up with a dumb ass strat, at least make it entertaining for the viewer. Your 1 rax CC play against 2 hatch muta has gotten so good Flash, and you insist on the dumbest build ever that you can't even execute. T_T.
What needs to happen for a tiebreaker? Or is Flash done for good?
On July 01 2009 18:56 hk2717 wrote: I think Jaedong already qualified to Ro8?
Almost certainly, unless he loses to Yarnc, Yarnc loses to Effort, AND Flash loses to Effort. Even then, he gets a tiebreaker against Yarnc and Effort.
So yeah, in other words, JD is pretty much 99% in RO8.
On July 01 2009 18:56 Vasoline73 wrote: So stupid from Flash. If you're going to come up with a dumb ass strat, at least make it entertaining for the viewer. Your 1 rax CC play against 2 hatch muta has gotten so good Flash, and you insist on the dumbest build ever that you can't even execute. T_T.
What needs to happen for a tiebreaker? Or is Flash done for good?
Jaedong needs to beat Yarnc, Flash needs to beat Effort, and Effort needs to beat Yarnc. Then Flash needs to beat both Effort and Yarnc in the tiebreaker.
On July 01 2009 18:56 Vasoline73 wrote: So stupid from Flash. If you're going to come up with a dumb ass strat, at least make it entertaining for the viewer. Your 1 rax CC play against 2 hatch muta has gotten so good Flash, and you insist on the dumbest build ever that you can't even execute. T_T.
What needs to happen for a tiebreaker? Or is Flash done for good?
efforts MUST win against yarnc, jaedong MUST win against yarnc, Flash MUST win against effort. Only way for a tiebreaker.
For Flash to have even a chance to advance Effort has to beat Yarnc tomorrow and then he has to beat Effort and Yarnc lose to Jaedong... Then 3 players would be 1:2...
well jaedong should have no problem with yarnc, unless he lets yarnc win so flash is out for sure, but Im sure jd wont do that. I hope effort beats yarnc. And I think Flash can beat effort in a must win situation.
in other words. Flash fans should cheer for effort tomorrow!
On July 01 2009 18:56 hk2717 wrote: I think Jaedong already qualified to Ro8?
not yet. If effort >flash, effort > yarnc and yarnc > JD, there's going to be a tiebreaker
And then he'd have to lose to yarnc and effort again since flash would be out 0-3, 2 spots go. For all those game results to happen especially yarnc > JD twice is supremely unlikely. While Jaedong may not technically be in yet, he's basically a lock to the next round.
On July 01 2009 19:00 Kadin wrote: Wow... ling mine dodge was crazy.
yeah... even for JDs standard his micro was insane... honestly i have never seen a game with such INSANE micro from one player from start to finish.... Boxers micro highlights from back in the day seem like crap compared to this t.t
MAYBE (and this is a big maybe) Flash figures out all the timings on this build eventually and it turns into a solid one. It took him awhile to get the anti-Carrier Goliath build down after all.
But, it's looking like too little too late for this OSL. I'd say JD > Yarnc is 80%, Effort > Yarnc is 55%, and Flash > Effort is 40% (I give Flash 40% and not less because ironically, Effort is the one Zerg player whose style gets countered the best by this new build ...). If it got to a tiebreaker, I'd put Flash at 40%.
Obviously these are just arbitrary numbers, but no matter how you look at it, I think it's fair to say Flash has less than a 10% chance of advancing =/
As much as I cringe to bring it up, in some ways it seems that Flash's new build has become his "new 14CC". IF he survives early game, he has a huge advantage (if he had somehow held against JD, even with a CC lift, his advantage would have been enormous). But, it's SO hard to survive the early game, especially when opponents are looking for it, that it just isn't worth it. It's not quite as bad as 9 pool versus 14 CC but a 2 Hatch variant versus the new Flash build is close.
I really hope this doesn't turn into the equivalent of the "Flash strat TvP", where it rolls mediocre Zergs every time but can't beat elite ones....
I'm quite surprised so many people thought Flash would beat Jaedong. One even commented that Flash was "stronger" at the moment.
Jaedong has broken the 2300 ELO limit again, and he's soaring towards a new record pretty quickly if he continues to win like this. I know it's early days yet, but if Jaedong wins this OSL and claims the golden mouse, he'll be an even stronger candidate for the greatest player of all time label.
Battle now in Backho's nat. Stork comes out on top. Backho now contained in his main. Goons in Backho's main. Reaver is out to ddeend though but stork is way ahead. Reaver defending well
Backho pulls probes to defend. Reaver taken out. Backho is pretty much dead.
Stork now walking into backho's main with goons. Probes pulled again. Lots of probes dying. No reaver out yet. Backho defends again with a lot of probe losses. And more goons enter his main. Reaver out again at last. This time stork retreats and waits for reinforcements. Stork keeping his units on top of Backho's ramp
Stork moves in with his goons and snipe another reaver! But a reavers repop for backho just in time! 3 goons versus the reaver now, gets snipped again, GG!
I think BackHo could have held if he made a shield battery, reavers are impossible to kill with those things ;p EDIT: Crap, beaten to the punch by mere seconds.
Song Byeong Gu, you have failed your family. But today, you have done well, and I forgive you for everything. Go on, now, to the clubs and the whores and the coke. You've earned it for tonight.
On July 01 2009 19:20 samachking wrote: GG, Stork kept pressuring and Backho never got more than 2 reavers at once. Stork wins. I have a weird feeling that TypeB will 3-0 this group.
don't think he'll beat fantasy but there is a feeling inside of me that he will advance out of the group.
On July 01 2009 19:21 yoodeok wrote: Song Byeong Gu, you have failed your family. But today, I forgive you. Go on, now, to the clubs and the whores and the coke. You've earned it for tonight.
The only way now for Backho to qualify is for Fantasy to 3-0 this group and then Backho MUST beat Type-b. This way Type-b/Backho/Stork go to tiebreaks for 2nd place...
On July 01 2009 19:23 o3.power91 wrote: The only way now for Backho to qualify is for Fantasy to 3-0 this group and then Backho MUST beat Type-b. This way Type-b/Backho/Stork go to tiebreaks for 2nd place...
Type-b won't lose as long as he has the Bonjwa Note.
On July 01 2009 19:23 Instigata wrote: Did BackHo type out too early perhaps?
He kinda typed out too late. Stork dealt a big blow to his economy with the manner pylons, the early zeal that got 2 kills and the number of probes killed by goons not to mention all the reavers Stork sniped.
The sad thing is. on any normal ramped map, Backho's build would've been sufficient to defend Stork's 4 gate. Goon/reaver upramp is a bitch to break.
On July 01 2009 19:21 yoodeok wrote: Song Byeong Gu, you have failed your family. But today, you have done well, and I forgive you for everything. Go on, now, to the clubs and the whores and the coke. You've earned it for tonight.
On July 01 2009 19:30 iNfeRnaL wrote: wow i was almost happy for a second about reaching 500, then i saw kona prolly going to make his 10k in this thread... ya sup
On July 01 2009 18:56 Vasoline73 wrote: So stupid from Flash. If you're going to come up with a dumb ass strat, at least make it entertaining for the viewer. Your 1 rax CC play against 2 hatch muta has gotten so good Flash, and you insist on the dumbest build ever that you can't even execute. T_T.
What needs to happen for a tiebreaker? Or is Flash done for good?
If Yarnc wins vs Effort it would be: Jaedong 2-0 Yarnc 2-0 Flash 1-2 Effort 0-3 here the winner of Jaedong vs Yarnc advances as #1, the loser as #2
If Yarnc loses vs Effort it would be: Jaedong 2-0 Yarnc 1-1 Effort 1-2 Flash 1-2 here if Yarnc wins vs Jaedong he advances as #1 and Jaedong as #2 if Jaedong wins he advances as #1 and there is a three way tie between Yarnc, Effort and Flash.
Really late scout for Bisu. Nothing non-standard so far though. Both players scout correct directions. Bisu has a zeal to block ramp. Probably to hide something...
HWASIN SNEAKS 3 VULTS INTO BISU'S MAIN LAYING MINES EVERYWHERE. GOON OUT NOW. MORE GOONS AT HWASIN'S NAT. HWASIN WALLS IN AND HAS TANKS TO DEFEND WHILE HARASSING BISU WITH VULTS.
Bisu is safe now. And so is Hwasin. Reaver in shuttle out now.
Bisu loses some goons to mines in his base. bringing up reaver to harass now. Hwasin pulls his tanks. Fail scarab. 2ndscarab does some damage. BIsu trying to break in still. Reaver getting lots of kills... bisu has goons in Hwasins main. they die. Bisu taking his nat now. Getting citadel.
I dont know what the hell is going on, in recent games Hwasin almost always go all-in ...and this all-in versus Bisu is just the worst of it all. I think even Bisu fell sorry for Hwasin, Bisu won even without a fight....T_T
What's the big surprise. We have two greats playing in this round - Jaedong and Bisu. It's no surprise at all that they win. I hope Jaedong and Bisu face each other with best of 5 sets in the later rounds - it will be like Federer-Nadal, though it's hard to say who is who.
Tonight proves to me that Flash isn't on the same plateau as Bisu and JD at their best
He consistently smashes 2nd-tier progamers but can't consistently hang with the top tier. I mean he didn't just lose, he looked totally lost vs JD. He's sort of the Terran ambassador to the Bisu-JD club because they can't send anyone better.
On July 01 2009 20:01 ssj114 wrote: What's the big surprise. We have two greats playing in this round - Jaedong and Bisu. It's no surprise at all that they win. I hope Jaedong and Bisu face each other with best of 5 sets in the later rounds - it will be like Federer-Nadal, though it's hard to say who is who.
Canata has a Dship out now. Would suck if it were intercepted by wraiths. Leta has his own 4 tanks and vults harassing Leta's nat but not doing too much damage
Vulture harass leta's third, they were only 2 scvs. Leta starts his fourth, and a dropship comes to deal with canata's vult, mines are layed but with awesome micro leta saves a tank by putting it back in a dropship! Canat'as wraith kills leta dropship, and canata drops two tanks, leta counters with vults.
Sad day for every Flash fan as his chances arenow at best very slim...
Flash needs to improve his early gameplay. Whenever he plays top players these days he gets behind (or loses) and that leads to those epic games like against FBH, Leta or Hwasin in the last OSL.
I also miss Flash playing simple strategies. Why can't he go bio anymore?
23 wins - 4 losses (85.19%) the record of jaedong in the last 2 month jaedong is so taking this osl only one to stop him is maybe bisu but if he gets to a bo5 jaedong all the way !!!!!!!!1 golden mouse !!!!
On July 01 2009 20:36 GTR wrote: 4/4 today, hell yeh.
you and me both. Normally Canata's a good bet for TvT, but I give Leta the upper hand vs him, as I would with Iris (yes). The other 3 were pretty given considering circumstances.
On July 02 2009 00:54 JWD wrote: Well done Bisu...dropping that first game had some of us scared
I was really hoping for an upset from Canata, but I hope he at least played a good game? Have to check out the VODs.
Leta vs Canata was AMAZING
Probably the best game today, followed by Bisu vs Hwasin
Good to hear! Just watched Bisu-Hwasin and Flash-JD...how could Hwasin think that a 2fac would work given that Bisu put his 2nd nex at his backdoor expo? There's just no way to break a ramp with 8 goons on it...Hwasin couldn't plant a single useful mine from that position.
As for Flash-JD, it was pretty disappointing. JD's muta micro was awesome as usual, but Flash was set pretty far behind by that utter failure of a bunker rush. Perfectly played by JD.
On July 01 2009 21:23 why wrote: It's ok flash, it's ok
you're still in this osl! effort > arnc, jaedong > arnc puts you in the tiebreakers as long as you beat effort. that's likely, right?
Effort > Yarnc Jaedong > Yarnc Flash > Effort
If any of these conditions are not met, Flash is out.
Interesting: we now have a situation where either EffOrt or Jaedong can boot Flash from the OSL by losing to Yarnc. I'd strongly consider blowing my game to keep Flash out of the Ro8...
didn't flash lose to Yarnc almost exactly the same way? let's hope he can beat Effort and everyone else beats Yarnc so that Effort is out ;D i really liked the BackHo vs Stork game, some really intense PvP, too bad BackHo couldn't make it :|
On July 01 2009 21:23 why wrote: It's ok flash, it's ok
you're still in this osl! effort > arnc, jaedong > arnc puts you in the tiebreakers as long as you beat effort. that's likely, right?
Effort > Yarnc Jaedong > Yarnc Flash > Effort
If any of these conditions are not met, Flash is out.
Interesting: we now have a situation where either EffOrt or Jaedong can boot Flash from the OSL by losing to Yarnc. I'd strongly consider blowing my game to keep Flash out of the Ro8...
Given how much Jaedong and Flash respect each other I would be suprised if Jaedong throws away game just to keep Flash out of round of 8 and he is the only one in the group who is in a position to throw game away.
On July 01 2009 21:23 why wrote: It's ok flash, it's ok
you're still in this osl! effort > arnc, jaedong > arnc puts you in the tiebreakers as long as you beat effort. that's likely, right?
Effort > Yarnc Jaedong > Yarnc Flash > Effort
If any of these conditions are not met, Flash is out.
Interesting: we now have a situation where either EffOrt or Jaedong can boot Flash from the OSL by losing to Yarnc. I'd strongly consider blowing my game to keep Flash out of the Ro8...
well effort needs to win his game vs yellow, and jd dropping a zvz would look stupid and obvious. even though i believe flash does not deserve a tiebreaker, it's quite likely he gets one.
I don't know, he did lose vs GGplay last season, though that game had no effect whatsoever on the standings. He must've been going through the motions.
Damn why did Flash loose? If he had 1 firebat and 3 marines in that damn bunker he would've won T.T And why didn't he mass turrets like mad? And why didn't he add more production facilities???? He played worse than a D noob (tactically speaking).
On July 02 2009 02:59 verzisor wrote: Damn why did Flash loose? If he had 1 firebat and 3 marines in that damn bunker he would've won T.T And why didn't he mass turrets like mad? And why didn't he add more production facilities???? He played worse than a D noob (tactically speaking).
On July 01 2009 03:26 DreaM)XeRO wrote: (T)Flash < Return of the King > (Z)Jaedong Flash's impeccable timing pushes were run over by Yarnc in an earlier OSL game. I think Jaedong will run over Flash.
(P)BackHo < Holy World > (P)Stork Backho's only "good" matchup is PvP. However, Stork recently took a game off of Bisu. Advantage Stork.
On July 02 2009 02:12 Solinren wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN. FLASH AND HWASIN. NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
On July 02 2009 02:32 Avidkeystamper wrote: I don't know, he did lose vs GGplay last season, though that game had no effect whatsoever on the standings. He must've been going through the motions.
Yeah, I was going to mention that one. Probably the worst ZvZ I've seen Jaedong play--it was like he didn't even bother turning on the hack.
On July 02 2009 04:37 udgnim wrote: I think Flash's parents need to threaten that they'll stop him from being a progamer if he doesn't win a OSL or MSL.
He already won an OSL? In a dominating fasion too. He also crushed everything (Jaedong too) in GomTV Star Invitational
On July 02 2009 04:37 udgnim wrote: I think Flash's parents need to threaten that they'll stop him from being a progamer if he doesn't win a OSL or MSL.
Yeah, I sure wouldn't want my son making 200,000-300,000 dollars a year if he's not winning any leagues.
Well hey, he's doing well in the MSL. If the group stages don't go his way this time then he can take a lesser title. If he gets to the MSL finals he can't lose! (Nada reverse curse -- Nada will be the only terran to ever lose an MSL :3)
Last time, it was pointed out that you can't do that in OSL or GOM booths because of the way the glass is.
Is it only one-sided toward the audience then? Because in the video, there was a part where you could see Leta in his booth from inside Canata's booth.
Last time, it was pointed out that you can't do that in OSL or GOM booths because of the way the glass is.
Is it only one-sided toward the audience then? Because in the video, there was a part where you could see Leta in his booth from inside Canata's booth.
Only GOM booths have one-sided glass, but OSL's booths are positioned in a way that you cant see the audience.
ugh thx alot Flash for crushing my anticipation of seeing an epic game. Wasn't he just beaten by Yarnc with the similar 2-hatch mutas? I don't see it as a loss for him to leave this OSL. The Tyrant is >>>>> Flash. The gap just gets wider and wider.
On July 02 2009 14:14 ASAzerg wrote: ugh thx alot Flash for crushing my anticipation of seeing an epic game. Wasn't he just beaten by Yarnc with the similar 2-hatch mutas? I don't see it as a loss for him to leave this OSL. The Tyrant is >>>>> Flash. The gap just gets wider and wider.
It's been said but Yarnc was a 1 hatch lair into 2 hatch muta, meaning he went pool first for a quick lair, but JD was normal 2 hatch, albeit after being bunker rushed.
On July 02 2009 10:23 ArvickHero wrote: Was hoping to see some humiliation tactics from Bisu again D: guess he felt sorry for Hwasin and decided to just beat him standard
Seems to me that Hwasin decided that he will beat himself with his strategy...
Last time, it was pointed out that you can't do that in OSL or GOM booths because of the way the glass is.
Is it only one-sided toward the audience then? Because in the video, there was a part where you could see Leta in his booth from inside Canata's booth.
Only GOM booths have one-sided glass, but OSL's booths are positioned in a way that you cant see the audience.
Man, see at 1:31 How they cant see the audience? Now i see this OSL affirmation is false.
EPT
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Flash < Return of the King > 
Jaedong 
BackHo < Holy World > 
Do care about Hwasin kicking Bisu's ass (pretty please with sugar on top).
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Flash starting e bay, but mutas are already hatching!
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