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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#361
Lol "Great games" Tasteless is dilusional

The violet vs effort 2nd game sucked but effort still made a great play there. I'm positive that wasnt his original plan. He read the build like a champ.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#362
On June 28 2009 19:29 Zozma wrote:
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On June 28 2009 19:28 Harem wrote:
2 games in row that Violet has gotten owned on Heartbreak for only making 1 cannon.

greeeeeeeeeeeed
One additional cannon wouldn't have done shit there... what he needed to do was keep his zealots in the gap.

Zergs wouldn't be doing this in first place though if Violet would just play safer instead of so greedy.

The luring out of the zealots was a sick move though.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#363
My god how easy.

But seriously, Violet was nowhere up to the task.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#364
violet lost the same way he lost the last time he played on that map. well, similarly (got greedy and didnt build cannons)
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#365
On June 28 2009 19:30 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
i think the commercial break was longer than all the games combined


i LOL'd
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#366
On June 28 2009 19:32 prOxi.Beater wrote:
2 good series on paper turned out really lack-luster. One player was just way superior in both matchups.

Ye was expecting a bit more..
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#367
On June 28 2009 19:31 GTR wrote:
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On June 28 2009 19:29 Itachii wrote:
GG
Violet is just PL wonder, it seems.


The Protoss Sea!

Except Sea sucks at everything now
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#368
So Jaedong beating Effort next? Nice
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
June 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#369
i really dont understand why Violet wont learn his lesson, he lost THE EXCATLY same way to Jaedong in PL
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
June 28 2009 10:34 GMT
#370
On June 28 2009 19:32 SuperArc wrote:
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On June 28 2009 19:31 Orbifold wrote:
On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


No it didn't.


No scouting, one cannon usually works against weak zergs, but good zergs know how to exploit it.

In case you didn't notice there was a big deal about Violet's probe in the zerg main for a long time. Also about the 1 canon thing, watch Jaedong vs Movie in Avalon MSL Ro32 on Heartbreak Ridge.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 28 2009 10:34 GMT
#371
On June 28 2009 19:32 samachking wrote:
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On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


Wtf are you saying? 2 cheese games means Violet sucks PvZ? Let the games last over 10 min then talk.

Edit:Effort also watched yesterday's game and saw violet opting for 1 canon so he probably 3hatlingd because of that.


It's not hard to win long games if you cut corners all the time and dont get punished, is it?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
June 28 2009 10:34 GMT
#372
this is like flash's 14cc. hope he learns from it next time.
Woo Jung Ho
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
June 28 2009 10:34 GMT
#373
On June 28 2009 19:32 samachking wrote:
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On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


Wtf are you saying? 2 cheese games means Violet sucks PvZ? Let the games last over 10 min then talk.


Well, if Violet did not play horrible, then the game could have lasted longer than 10 minutes.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
June 28 2009 10:35 GMT
#374
On June 28 2009 19:34 Malinor wrote:
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On June 28 2009 19:32 samachking wrote:
On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


Wtf are you saying? 2 cheese games means Violet sucks PvZ? Let the games last over 10 min then talk.


Well, if Violet did not play horrible, then the game could have lasted longer than 10 minutes.

what makes you say violet played horrible in the 2nd game?
Woo Jung Ho
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
June 28 2009 10:35 GMT
#375
Violet shoulda played a lot safer in game 2, considering it was the clinch game. After his risky build in game 1, he shoulda tried to bring his best..

So unfortunate when Protoss's try to get away w/ building 1 cannon for defense while FE'ing.
Most of the time Zergs will react in such a manner.. You have to be like, constant and perfect w/ zealot macro throughout the entire game if u want to be safe from a run-in or early game mass ling.

Seen the same in Violet v Jaedong @ Proleague.
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Build 2 cannons guys!
2 cannons is still not a guarantee, but it's better than 1!!

gL
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
June 28 2009 10:36 GMT
#376
On June 28 2009 19:34 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 19:32 samachking wrote:
On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


Wtf are you saying? 2 cheese games means Violet sucks PvZ? Let the games last over 10 min then talk.


Well, if Violet did not play horrible, then the game could have lasted longer than 10 minutes.


Honestly Violet made only 2 mistakes those 2 series, not attacking with the zeals from the start, and in game 2 not building that 2nd canon and sending out a 2nd probe scout. Effort did a good job abusing it, but it doesnt say anything about the merit of violet's pvz.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 28 2009 10:36 GMT
#377
On June 28 2009 19:31 Orbifold wrote:
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On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


No it didn't.


Well it did . Both Jaedong and Effort bit the crap out of him .
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
June 28 2009 10:38 GMT
#378
On June 28 2009 19:35 iLoveKT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 19:34 Malinor wrote:
On June 28 2009 19:32 samachking wrote:
On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


Wtf are you saying? 2 cheese games means Violet sucks PvZ? Let the games last over 10 min then talk.


Well, if Violet did not play horrible, then the game could have lasted longer than 10 minutes.

what makes you say violet played horrible in the 2nd game?


I dislike greedy play. 1 cannon without scouting information is just bad in my opinion.

I really got confused over the Violet hype the last weeks on these forums, people comparing him to Bisu and stuff. Way to go.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 28 2009 10:39 GMT
#379
On June 28 2009 19:36 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 19:34 Malinor wrote:
On June 28 2009 19:32 samachking wrote:
On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


Wtf are you saying? 2 cheese games means Violet sucks PvZ? Let the games last over 10 min then talk.


Well, if Violet did not play horrible, then the game could have lasted longer than 10 minutes.


Honestly Violet made only 2 mistakes those 2 series, not attacking with the zeals from the start, and in game 2 not building that 2nd canon and sending out a 2nd probe scout. Effort did a good job abusing it, but it doesnt say anything about the merit of violet's pvz.


His third mistake was not playing 100% safe when hes one game down in a Bo3
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
June 28 2009 10:39 GMT
#380
On June 28 2009 19:36 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 19:31 Orbifold wrote:
On June 28 2009 19:30 SuperArc wrote:
This series showed that Violet has no chance against good zergs


No it didn't.


Well it did . Both Jaedong and Effort bit the crap out of him .


Really? Getting cheesed once and failing a cheese means you can't beat that opponent ever? I guess Jaedong has no chance against Skyhigh then.
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