• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:45
CET 14:45
KST 22:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1904 users

[GOM] Ro16, Day 2 - Page 23

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 34 Next All
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:49 GMT
#441
--- Nuked ---
Snowden
Profile Joined April 2009
United States79 Posts
June 14 2009 10:50 GMT
#442
shuttle with what looks like some good macro, supply difference of 50 right now
jaedong HWAITING
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2009 10:50 GMT
#443
On June 14 2009 19:45 Musoeun wrote:
I really like Hwasin's play in holding this off, but he's on the edge of a knife right now.

--------

Also, the best Terran argument:
+ Show Spoiler +
fantasy has always looked like he has more potential than flash, but he's never lived up to it, and I say that makes him actually the worse player. Apart from the last season of individual leagues, I can't think of any time or place where fantasy's actually posted better results than Flash overall despite the insanely high level of thought in his builds.

You could say he's the victim of his genius, because his builds are so timing-dependent, and if his timing gets thrown off they're very vulnerable - high risk, high reward play.

Don't get me wrong, fantasy's very good: if Flash and fantasy played a game at their best possible level, with time to prepare, I might put my money on fantasy. But if Flash and fantasy played a BoX series, I'd expect Flash to win. fantasy's creativity and timing can only carry him so far before he runs out of luck or misses a timing, and against a nearly perfect mechanical Terran like Flash (who's not dumb either), the longer the series, the more it favors Flash.

Btw, any idea how the success rate of the oov/fantasy valkonic build(s) compares with Leta/Baby's wraith play in TvZ?


flash has been roughly as good as he currently is for like two years. its a shitload better than everyone else, except now fantasy is exceeding him in both tvz and tvp

fantasy's tvz builds are far more successful than leta's wraith play, which is also fuckin' cool as hell
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:51 GMT
#444
--- Nuked ---
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 14 2009 10:51 GMT
#445
These zlow zeals make me cry inside
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6181 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 10:53:09
June 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#446
OMG that reacalls was so well placed!

ninja edit: concidering it was to the mass turretted/mined main base.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#447
--- Nuked ---
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
June 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#448
Shuttle is maxxed.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#449
--- Nuked ---
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#450
go shuttle....
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
nothingbutzerg
Profile Joined May 2006
Greece626 Posts
June 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#451
am i wrong or this map is carrier-favorite????
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6181 Posts
June 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#452
shuttle should've recalled those units away from there.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:55 GMT
#453
--- Nuked ---
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:56 GMT
#454
--- Nuked ---
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
June 14 2009 10:56 GMT
#455
Hallucinated Arbiter!

RECALL
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6181 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 10:57:20
June 14 2009 10:56 GMT
#456
Looooooooooollll hallucinations :DDDDD

edit: looks pretty bad for shuttle.
nothingbutzerg
Profile Joined May 2006
Greece626 Posts
June 14 2009 10:57 GMT
#457
all those hallucinated arbiters for one recall? i thought there were 2
Snowden
Profile Joined April 2009
United States79 Posts
June 14 2009 10:57 GMT
#458
shuttle vacillating between trying hard to win and doing his best to fail
jaedong HWAITING
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:57 GMT
#459
--- Nuked ---
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 14 2009 10:58 GMT
#460
On June 14 2009 19:54 nothingbutzerg wrote:
am i wrong or this map is carrier-favorite????

Uhm, I think that if you go carriers, you will need to go to the sidelines, because the goliaths can just fight you in the open and you don't want that.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
12:00
Day 2
TaKeTV3416
ComeBackTV 1331
IndyStarCraft 494
TaKeSeN 327
SteadfastSC288
Rex124
3DClanTV 91
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 494
SteadfastSC 288
Rex 124
BRAT_OK 54
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2690
Larva 993
EffOrt 790
Jaedong 554
Hyuk 506
Stork 465
ZerO 442
Mini 424
Soulkey 234
Rush 198
[ Show more ]
Last 145
PianO 77
[sc1f]eonzerg 49
Backho 49
ToSsGirL 46
Free 43
Yoon 42
Shuttle 40
sorry 28
Movie 23
Rock 18
soO 17
HiyA 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
GoRush 15
Sacsri 13
Terrorterran 13
ivOry 5
Stormgate
BeoMulf55
Dota 2
Gorgc5018
singsing2606
qojqva2114
XcaliburYe356
Counter-Strike
fl0m1669
byalli396
Other Games
B2W.Neo1555
crisheroes337
Sick182
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt617
• TFBlade507
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 16m
HomeStory Cup
23h 16m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W6
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.