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OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
June 14 2009 10:27 GMT
#361
fakesteve is an awesome troll.
i lol'd
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
June 14 2009 10:27 GMT
#362
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah

I remember watching by.fantasy tvp replays more than 4 years ago, he has been playing forever.
As far as I know flash more or less _started playing_ 3-4 years ago (or even less). And flash already has better results, how you can call fantasy more talented than someone who has produced better results over less time and is still going strong is beyond me.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
June 14 2009 10:28 GMT
#363
Looks like dropships coming from Hwasin and his expansion was earlier - it was completing as Shuttle was warping his in.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
June 14 2009 10:28 GMT
#364
On June 14 2009 19:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:23 Shikyo wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:19 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:16 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:13 Musoeun wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:10 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


raw talent fantasy is better? lol

Flash is 16 and is better than fantasy. Who has more raw talent?


thats a dumb way to look at it

i think the fact that you think proleague games mean anything real is pretty funny


Well, okay (maybe...), but how many titles does fantasy have?

Yeah.


thats also a dumb way to look at it. is nada the current best player on earth?


How can you say fantasy is the best terran in the world then? Do you know how all terrans play in practice? Maybe some very weak-minded player is much better than fantasy, but fails when people watch him play?


does that matter at all? nope

feel free to say something thats actually relevant

Flash won an individual league at the age of 15. He played Starcraft the first time at the age of 12. You were talking about raw talent...


i'm glad you think raw talent is a measurement of how young you are when you win a starleague

please go back to watching starcraft with your infantile brain and leave the terran discussion to me!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha owned

-_- Ok I didnt realize you weren't serious =p
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:28 GMT
#365
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2009 10:28 GMT
#366
On June 14 2009 19:26 SuperArc wrote:
I am sure the builds are a mix of fantasy, boxer and oov.


sure they are
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
June 14 2009 10:29 GMT
#367
lol this whole flash vs fantasy thing is such a popularity contest

fantasy wishes he was half as good as flash
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 14 2009 10:29 GMT
#368
On June 14 2009 19:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:21 Artosis wrote:
for everyone's information, fantasy is currently the best terran in teh world over flash.

HERE WE GO, all is clear now


eventually people will realize that someone like artosis doesnt have to come in and agree with me for me to be right because i'm always right and someone like artosis will always agree with me whether they come in and post or not

you are both wrong, thats why you shouldn't argue.
back to stream people, someone pulled out flame bait and everyone fell for it
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 14 2009 10:29 GMT
#369
Flash is better at TvP than Hwasin, agreed?

Now, how's the game going...
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2009 10:29 GMT
#370
On June 14 2009 19:28 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:23 Shikyo wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:19 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:16 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:13 Musoeun wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:10 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
[quote]

fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


raw talent fantasy is better? lol

Flash is 16 and is better than fantasy. Who has more raw talent?


thats a dumb way to look at it

i think the fact that you think proleague games mean anything real is pretty funny


Well, okay (maybe...), but how many titles does fantasy have?

Yeah.


thats also a dumb way to look at it. is nada the current best player on earth?


How can you say fantasy is the best terran in the world then? Do you know how all terrans play in practice? Maybe some very weak-minded player is much better than fantasy, but fails when people watch him play?


does that matter at all? nope

feel free to say something thats actually relevant

Flash won an individual league at the age of 15. He played Starcraft the first time at the age of 12. You were talking about raw talent...


i'm glad you think raw talent is a measurement of how young you are when you win a starleague

please go back to watching starcraft with your infantile brain and leave the terran discussion to me!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha owned

-_- Ok I didnt realize you weren't serious =p


i was serious, but considering how dumb the average response to the things i say is i really dont have to justify anything
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2009 10:29 GMT
#371
On June 14 2009 19:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:23 Shikyo wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:19 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:16 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:13 Musoeun wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:10 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


raw talent fantasy is better? lol

Flash is 16 and is better than fantasy. Who has more raw talent?


thats a dumb way to look at it

i think the fact that you think proleague games mean anything real is pretty funny


Well, okay (maybe...), but how many titles does fantasy have?

Yeah.


thats also a dumb way to look at it. is nada the current best player on earth?


How can you say fantasy is the best terran in the world then? Do you know how all terrans play in practice? Maybe some very weak-minded player is much better than fantasy, but fails when people watch him play?


does that matter at all? nope

feel free to say something thats actually relevant

Flash won an individual league at the age of 15. He played Starcraft the first time at the age of 12. You were talking about raw talent...


i'm glad you think raw talent is a measurement of how young you are when you win a starleague

please go back to watching starcraft with your infantile brain and leave the terran discussion to me!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha owned
I guess that post means that you lost in that argument, since you agree with me. My point was that winning an individual league in a game that's been played for 11 years at the age of 15 after having played for 3 years is talent, more talent than using cheesy builds to win without being able to play standard and not even having a title yet although you're many years older. Not to mention completely revolutionizing TvP at the age of 15 as well... Well, if you don't understand, you don't.


Uhh, seems like Hwasin is somehow waay ahead of Shuttle. o_O

League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:30 GMT
#372
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
June 14 2009 10:30 GMT
#373
One 6 kill tank and one at least 3 from Hwasin's 2-tank drop at Shuttle's nat. All kills were probes.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
June 14 2009 10:30 GMT
#374
Shuttle looking to counter as Hwasin only has 1 fact.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
June 14 2009 10:31 GMT
#375
4 goons up the ramp, 2 tanks and some vultures taken down. Hwasin's SCVs had to be pulled but the extra tanks that popped out hold it off.

Shuttle has a shuttle out.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:31 GMT
#376
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
June 14 2009 10:31 GMT
#377
Shuttle has expoed to 2 oclock..

Hwasin adds 2 more fac
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2009 10:32 GMT
#378
Okay, shuttle killed like 2 tanks at the cost of like 10 Dragoons, and now he's way behind in both supply and economy. Hwasin should be rolling him in a couple of minutes.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
June 14 2009 10:32 GMT
#379
Shuttle taking top right while Hwasin's vultures are out and about and see the wall off. Hwasin knows about the expansion and is dropping it.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
June 14 2009 10:32 GMT
#380
Hwasin sends his dropship towards the 2 oclock expo, which shuttle wall'ed in with ggate and pylons..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
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