• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:08
CEST 13:08
KST 20:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 225ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon325.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? ZOWIE DIVINA preview Server Blocker
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5108 users

[PL] Round 4 Week 1 Lineups - Page 4

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
April 10 2009 05:23 GMT
#61
On April 10 2009 04:08 JWD wrote:
No (P)BeSt for T1

I hope this just means they're saving him for the ace game on Medusa.

PS ways to make yourself look dumb on TL:
1) blindly TLPD-ize your entire post
2) confuse "progamers" with "programmers". OK, let me break this one down. "Programmers" write computer code. "Progamers" play computer games professionally. Not that hard, people!!


i think he has medical issues, how can a player fell so hard in a very short time, i dont get it.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 05:57:19
April 10 2009 05:56 GMT
#62

Neo Medusa:
3 PvZ
1 PvT
2 PvP
1 ZvZ
One game does not feature any Protoss, and that's a ZvZ. The only Terran that appears is Flash. It appears that the changes that took place were not great enough to benefit Terran, but we'll see in the long run.

Battle Royale:
1 PvZ
4 ZvZ
Obviously Zerg favored. We'll see if any race can come up with some interesting build to put Zergs back in their place later in on in the season. However, as it stands, This will be Jaedong's paradise.


Lol, it seems that Medusa will stay a T graveyard as it used to be. I hope at least Flash will be able to overcome it imbalances.

But I don't really understand why Battle Royale would favour Zergs so much. Can someone explain that to me?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
April 10 2009 05:59 GMT
#63
Apparently it has a lot to do with the short air distance -- overlords can scout really fast, making it hard for protoss and terran to do interesting and unexpected builds and get away with it.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
April 10 2009 05:59 GMT
#64
On April 10 2009 14:56 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +

Neo Medusa:
3 PvZ
1 PvT
2 PvP
1 ZvZ
One game does not feature any Protoss, and that's a ZvZ. The only Terran that appears is Flash. It appears that the changes that took place were not great enough to benefit Terran, but we'll see in the long run.

Battle Royale:
1 PvZ
4 ZvZ
Obviously Zerg favored. We'll see if any race can come up with some interesting build to put Zergs back in their place later in on in the season. However, as it stands, This will be Jaedong's paradise.


Lol, it seems that Medusa will stay a T graveyard as it used to be. I hope at least Flash will be able to overcome it imbalances.

But I don't really understand why Battle Royale would favour Zergs so much. Can someone explain that to me?

According to the Korean article about it, the short air distances make it really easy for Z to scout the T/P builds. Also, the natural really is susceptible to muta harass, theres no room behind minerals to defend.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
April 10 2009 06:03 GMT
#65
On April 10 2009 14:23 Hyperionnn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2009 04:08 JWD wrote:
No (P)BeSt for T1

I hope this just means they're saving him for the ace game on Medusa.

PS ways to make yourself look dumb on TL:
1) blindly TLPD-ize your entire post
2) confuse "progamers" with "programmers". OK, let me break this one down. "Programmers" write computer code. "Progamers" play computer games professionally. Not that hard, people!!


i think he has medical issues, how can a player fell so hard in a very short time, i dont get it.


An ultralisk sat on him >.>
OMG you nasty gurl
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 10 2009 06:07 GMT
#66
On April 10 2009 15:03 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2009 14:23 Hyperionnn wrote:
On April 10 2009 04:08 JWD wrote:
No (P)BeSt for T1

I hope this just means they're saving him for the ace game on Medusa.

PS ways to make yourself look dumb on TL:
1) blindly TLPD-ize your entire post
2) confuse "progamers" with "programmers". OK, let me break this one down. "Programmers" write computer code. "Progamers" play computer games professionally. Not that hard, people!!


i think he has medical issues, how can a player fell so hard in a very short time, i dont get it.


An ultralisk sat on him >.>

Something about having a disk in his neck.
Jaedong
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 17:44:43
April 10 2009 17:29 GMT
#67
On April 09 2009 22:02 3 Lions wrote:
I'll do an statistical analysis (my odds formula thing) of all CJ and KHAN games this season in these threads...because I have a lot of time on my hands lol.

Woongjin Stars vs KHAN
(Z)GGPlay 49%-51% (Z)Juni
(Z)ZerO 43%-57% (P)Stork
(P)free[gm] 60%-40% (Z)great
(T)MVP 39-61% (T)firebathero

ACE vs CJ
(P)Reach 47%-53% (Z)Orion
(Z)YellOw 54%-46% (P)Much
(P)Anytime 48%-52% (Z)sAviOr
(T)Casy 40%-60% (T)sKyHigh



What's the formula if you don't mind sharing? I'm pretty interested in these things.

My roommate and I ended up with huge spreadsheets and an optimization program written in GAMS (http://www.gams.com/), something normally used for industrial process optimization or so I hear from my roommate (I normally use matlab/Aspen).

Would you mind sharing your projections for the upcoming week for (T)Notice and (T)firebathero? I'm having a difficult time deciding between the two.
Wake up Mr. B!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 10 2009 17:52 GMT
#68
On April 11 2009 02:29 ccou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2009 22:02 3 Lions wrote:
I'll do an statistical analysis (my odds formula thing) of all CJ and KHAN games this season in these threads...because I have a lot of time on my hands lol.

Woongjin Stars vs KHAN
(Z)GGPlay 49%-51% (Z)Juni
(Z)ZerO 43%-57% (P)Stork
(P)free[gm] 60%-40% (Z)great
(T)MVP 39-61% (T)firebathero

ACE vs CJ
(P)Reach 47%-53% (Z)Orion
(Z)YellOw 54%-46% (P)Much
(P)Anytime 48%-52% (Z)sAviOr
(T)Casy 40%-60% (T)sKyHigh



What's the formula if you don't mind sharing? I'm pretty interested in these things.

My roommate and I ended up with huge spreadsheets and an optimization program written in GAMS (http://www.gams.com/), something normally used for industrial process optimization or so I hear from my roommate (I normally use matlab/Aspen).

Would you mind sharing your projections for the upcoming week for (T)Notice and (T)firebathero? I'm having a difficult time deciding between the two.

Check out his blogs:
here it is
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=80690
Jaedong
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
April 10 2009 19:18 GMT
#69
Woot hopefully savior can come out of his ass ditch, a win against anytime would be great.

Some epic match ups.
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 10 2009 23:31 GMT
#70
On April 11 2009 02:29 ccou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2009 22:02 3 Lions wrote:
I'll do an statistical analysis (my odds formula thing) of all CJ and KHAN games this season in these threads...because I have a lot of time on my hands lol.

Woongjin Stars vs KHAN
(Z)GGPlay 49%-51% (Z)Juni
(Z)ZerO 43%-57% (P)Stork
(P)free[gm] 60%-40% (Z)great
(T)MVP 39-61% (T)firebathero

ACE vs CJ
(P)Reach 47%-53% (Z)Orion
(Z)YellOw 54%-46% (P)Much
(P)Anytime 48%-52% (Z)sAviOr
(T)Casy 40%-60% (T)sKyHigh



What's the formula if you don't mind sharing? I'm pretty interested in these things.

My roommate and I ended up with huge spreadsheets and an optimization program written in GAMS (http://www.gams.com/), something normally used for industrial process optimization or so I hear from my roommate (I normally use matlab/Aspen).

Would you mind sharing your projections for the upcoming week for (T)Notice and (T)firebathero? I'm having a difficult time deciding between the two.

Pleeeeeeee formula share? or PM if you want thanks.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 00:20:02
April 11 2009 00:15 GMT
#71
On April 09 2009 13:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Woongjin Stars vs Samsung KHAN on MBC

GGPlay<Battle Royale>Juni

GGPlay. I fucking believe in you.

ZerO<Heartbreak Ridge>Stork

Stork's vs Zerg is a bit messy but it gets the job done. He proved it with his OSL run. But the MSL quarterfinalist isnt a pushover. I say ZerO takes game 2.

free<Neo Medusa>great

I personally cant wait for Neo Medusa ;D we'll see how it goes. But free put together a rediculous win streak at the latter half of WL. (went like 12-5 or something)

MVP<Destination>firebathero

FBH is sucking royally. It hurts to watch. But i dont know who MVP is so ..FBH ftw

Free<God’s Garden>Jangbi

I dont know who else the Stars would send out besides their ace. Jangbi is playing on an upper A-S class level, so giving ace game to Jangbi


there wouldn't be a 4th match anymore if the first 3 went the way you say lol
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
11:00
GSL CK #5 - Day 1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 229
Ryung 146
SHIN 78
Rex 34
herO (SOOP) 24
Classic 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 2338
Shuttle 650
Jaedong 644
Horang2 574
firebathero 387
Larva 351
BeSt 338
actioN 244
Soulkey 209
Soma 195
[ Show more ]
Light 168
Zeus 144
Killer 115
Pusan 95
Snow 87
ZerO 72
Rush 71
ggaemo 70
Sharp 59
Aegong 56
EffOrt 55
ToSsGirL 53
soO 44
Free 44
[sc1f]eonzerg 43
sorry 39
hero 39
910 33
scan(afreeca) 28
GoRush 18
Bale 18
Barracks 13
Noble 12
Sea.KH 10
Yoon 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Dota 2
XaKoH 810
Dendi96
League of Legends
JimRising 382
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2205
Other Games
singsing944
Pyrionflax222
B2W.Neo151
Happy120
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick22941
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV539
IntoTheiNu 334
Other Games
BasetradeTV213
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream143
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 88
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2169
League of Legends
• Stunt416
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 52m
WardiTV Weekly
23h 52m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.