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Genjimaru
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada515 Posts
April 09 2009 14:25 GMT
#41
Air Force ACE vs CJ Entus on OGN
(P)Reach<Neo Medusa>(Z)Orion
(Z)YellOw<God’s Garden>(P)Much
(P)Anytime<Outsider>(Z)sAviOr
(T)Casy<Heartbreak Ridge>(T)sKyHigh
<Destination>

I think Much and Skyhigh should take their games pretty easily. Savior may have a tougher time. I haven't seen Orion play in quite a while.

I'm going to guess CJ 3-1 Ace.
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
April 09 2009 14:44 GMT
#42
On April 09 2009 22:02 3 Lions wrote:
I'll do an statistical analysis (my odds formula thing) of all CJ and KHAN games this season in these threads...because I have a lot of time on my hands lol.

Woongjin Stars vs KHAN
(Z)GGPlay 49%-51% (Z)Juni
(Z)ZerO 43%-57% (P)Stork
(P)free[gm] 60%-40% (Z)great
(T)MVP 39-61% (T)firebathero

ACE vs CJ
(P)Reach 47%-53% (Z)Orion
(Z)YellOw 54%-46% (P)Much
(P)Anytime 48%-52% (Z)sAviOr
(T)Casy 40%-60% (T)sKyHigh


It would actually be interesting to do a statistical analysis on how accurate your odds formula is over a large number of games.
wwooaa
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Croatia179 Posts
April 09 2009 15:06 GMT
#43
The last time Anytime and savior Anytime crushed him so hard (just after his loss in MSL ro8)
wWoOaA)Is( /// kasda.cry...Ninjas can't catch you if you are on FIRE !
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 09 2009 15:23 GMT
#44
Damn it wheres for the first match Piano?!?!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 09 2009 15:26 GMT
#45
OZ has nobody solid in their lineup after Jaedong and Hiya... Always gotta play either of them in the first 2 matches.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-09 15:34:04
April 09 2009 15:33 GMT
#46
the ACE vs CJ lineup is sick...


YellOw,Reach,Anytime,sAviOr ftw

and its also great to see Pure back...

fromis_9 enjoyer
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-09 19:01:57
April 09 2009 15:50 GMT
#47
Interesting look at the line-ups and MUs on various maps:

God's Garden:
3 ZvP
2 TvZ
3 PvT
No mirrors. God's Garden appears to be balanced by the first week lineups.

Neo Medusa:
3 PvZ
1 PvT
2 PvP
1 ZvZ
One game does not feature any Protoss, and that's a ZvZ. The only Terran that appears is Flash. It appears that the changes that took place were not great enough to benefit Terran, but we'll see in the long run.

Heartbreak Ridge:
4 TvZ
1 ZvP
2 TvT
One Protoss player in all the games (Stork) apparently this is a T and Z map.

Outsider:
3 PvT
3 TvZ
1 PvZ
1 TvT
A lot of Terrans, but still looks decently balanced as there will be 7 games featuring a P and/or a Z. This map may be the most balanced (it does have a nice distribution of races) and the Terran jump may be due to the "you must play one of each race" rule.

Battle Royale:
1 PvZ
4 ZvZ
Obviously Zerg favored. We'll see if any race can come up with some interesting build to put Zergs back in their place later in on in the season. However, as it stands, This will be Jaedong's paradise.

Destination:
1 PvT
3 TvT
1 PvP
Please make another map Kespa!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
April 09 2009 16:44 GMT
#48
You have to keep in mind the proleague rules though... I bet outsider and destination are more balanced than their stats allow, but because teams have to play a terran somewhere, they have to put them on the maps where they have the best shot, not necessarily the maps that intrinsically favor terran.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-09 16:56:05
April 09 2009 16:52 GMT
#49
On April 09 2009 13:46 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
eSTRO vs STX SouL on MBC
hyvaa<God’s Garden>(T)Notice
(P)SangHo<Neo Medusa>Kal
(T)Really<Heartbreak Ridge>July
UpMaGiC<Outsider>(Z)Calm
UpMagic<Battle Royale>Hwasin


I think you missed the bit (Z)Where (Z)Calm totally smashed Up (T)Last time they played, on Neo Harmony no less.

Of course, I totally think the lineup looks like eSTRO should beat KTF, so I'm not (T)Really one to be talking. But looky:

eSTRO vs KTF MagicNs on OGN
(P)SangHo<Neo Medusa>Flash
hyvaa<God’s Garden>(P)Violet
UpMaGiC<Outsider>(Z)Luxury
Really<Heartbreak Ridge>(T)fOrGG
<Destination>

(T)UpMaGiC *might* drop his game (though unlikely, mech > mutas usually), but then we see Up vs (T)Flash on Desti, I say advantage Up.

EDIT: I'd edit this post for real, but lol at the random programmer names, I think I'm keeping it the way it is.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
April 09 2009 19:00 GMT
#50
On April 10 2009 01:44 talismania wrote:
You have to keep in mind the proleague rules though... I bet outsider and destination are more balanced than their stats allow, but because teams have to play a terran somewhere, they have to put them on the maps where they have the best shot, not necessarily the maps that intrinsically favor terran.


I remembered this when I began writing the article, but I forgot by the time I had finished it lol. I'll try and edit in something to that effect.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-09 20:27:00
April 09 2009 19:08 GMT
#51
No (P)BeSt for T1

I hope this just means they're saving him for the ace game on Medusa.

PS ways to make yourself look dumb on TL:
1) blindly TLPD-ize your entire post
2) confuse "progamers" with "programmers". OK, let me break this one down. "Programmers" write computer code. "Progamers" play computer games professionally. Not that hard, people!!
✌
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
April 09 2009 19:08 GMT
#52
On April 09 2009 22:43 Velr wrote:
lol
GGPlay 49%-51% Juni


Wow, you would be screwed whiteout your statistic . Now it all becomes clear.

Juni's going to rape GGPlay ez
yeah seriously, I didn't make this up or anything, it sometimes turns out like this
In this case, GGPlay's ZvZ is not top tier, Juni has very few losses and very few wins, so GGPlay's stats were more influential (GGPlay has been slumping recently)
CZ4A
Profile Joined April 2008
United States182 Posts
April 09 2009 19:25 GMT
#53
Why doesn't Wemade us Nada regularly? He hardly plays in PL.
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
April 09 2009 21:40 GMT
#54
WeMade needs to send up Nada... after that epic jangbi fight, nada has proven himself better than roro or keke
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-09 21:46:22
April 09 2009 21:43 GMT
#55
On April 09 2009 13:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Woongjin Stars vs Samsung KHAN on MBC

GGPlay<Battle Royale>Juni

GGPlay. I fucking believe in you.

ZerO<Heartbreak Ridge>Stork

Stork's vs Zerg is a bit messy but it gets the job done. He proved it with his OSL run. But the MSL quarterfinalist isnt a pushover. I say ZerO takes game 2.

free<Neo Medusa>great

I personally cant wait for Neo Medusa ;D we'll see how it goes. But free put together a rediculous win streak at the latter half of WL. (went like 12-5 or something)

MVP<Destination>firebathero

FBH is sucking royally. It hurts to watch. But i dont know who MVP is so ..FBH ftw

Free<God’s Garden>Jangbi

I dont know who else the Stars would send out besides their ace. Jangbi is playing on an upper A-S class level, so giving ace game to Jangbi


I dunno bro.. Why would they send Free against Jangbi/Stork, when they could send ZERO or even GGPlay. Unless there is some huge PvZ imba on the map, which I am not aware of. It really doesnt make sense for you to predict them to send out free vs 2 good toss, when they have 2 good zergs, one of which beat Bisu last time they played.

I mean otherwise, I agree, but Jangbi's PvZ is good, but he really hasnt beat any quality zergs, whereas I think a player of Zero's caliber is enough to beat Jangbi's PvZ.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
April 09 2009 21:44 GMT
#56
They went back to old format? and not winners league?
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
April 09 2009 23:56 GMT
#57
(T)PianO vs (Z)Jaedong!

Battle Royal line-up is such a disappointment, at least Heartbreak Ridge doesn't disappoint.
POGGERS
panda_inc
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia170 Posts
April 10 2009 03:33 GMT
#58
I love ACE all those baller oldschool players. Who doesn't want to see (P)Reach, (P)Anytime,
(Z)YellOw, (T)Casy play?!?! seriously!
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
April 10 2009 03:43 GMT
#59
GO GO Tigertoss!
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
April 10 2009 03:46 GMT
#60
On April 10 2009 06:44 Tekin wrote:
They went back to old format? and not winners league?


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