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sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
April 04 2009 10:02 GMT
#1061
On April 04 2009 18:59 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 18:58 sushiman wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:56 red.venom wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:54 sushiman wrote:
Why did he feel he should switch to muta? >>


Possibly because he thought Fantasy would play Mech?

Seemed like Jaedong was just an edge of out place the whole game. Hydra build spotted/countered, mutas unable to do damage, lurkers all caught and trapped in center, not prepared at expo and bad nydus placement.

TT oh well


He saw air early on, so he should've been prepared for valks as that's fantasy's signature build.
If he had continued with hydras, he would've probably won.


no, he wouldve faced 3 fac tanks and lost

He had a timing window when fantasy was building eco and investing in valks. The mutas were dead-wrong to counter fantasy, and JD should've known that. He had prepared for the vult/wraith harass, dunno why he didn't take valks into account since fantasy seems to get them every single game.
1000 at least.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-04 10:03:36
April 04 2009 10:02 GMT
#1062
On April 04 2009 19:01 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 18:57 Puosu wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:56 Shikyo wrote:
So he won with a creative cheesy build. Let's see if he can do it 2 more times...

jaedongs build was more cheesy than fantasys that game..

I completely disagree, I'm fairly certain he was going for 2 hatch muta.

How the hell was fantasy's build cheesy? Do you know what cheese is?

Jaedong went for a semi all in 6hydra rush off 2 hatch into 2 hatch muta/scourge...

So..I don't really know where you're going with this.

Fantasy simply countered jaedongs cheese for the easy win.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
April 04 2009 10:02 GMT
#1063
On April 04 2009 19:01 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 18:57 Puosu wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:56 Shikyo wrote:
So he won with a creative cheesy build. Let's see if he can do it 2 more times...

jaedongs build was more cheesy than fantasys that game..

I completely disagree, I'm fairly certain he was going for 2 hatch muta.

if he was going 2 hatch muta there would be no hydras, looks like he was going for a 2 hatch hydra break? lol
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
April 04 2009 10:02 GMT
#1064
Ok so we're back going into game 2. As I already stated long before these series started - Fantasy will win. Together with oov and boxer he has got this in his strategical fist. As predicted people are seeing the pattern now... Proceed...
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
April 04 2009 10:02 GMT
#1065
On April 04 2009 19:01 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 18:57 Puosu wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:56 Shikyo wrote:
So he won with a creative cheesy build. Let's see if he can do it 2 more times...

jaedongs build was more cheesy than fantasys that game..

I completely disagree, I'm fairly certain he was going for 2 hatch muta.


which explains the hydralisks and the attempted hydra break in the beginning
im gay
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
April 04 2009 10:02 GMT
#1066
On April 04 2009 19:01 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 18:57 Puosu wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:56 Shikyo wrote:
So he won with a creative cheesy build. Let's see if he can do it 2 more times...

jaedongs build was more cheesy than fantasys that game..

I completely disagree, I'm fairly certain he was going for 2 hatch muta.


your last comments are pretty clueless
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-04 10:04:13
April 04 2009 10:02 GMT
#1067
On April 04 2009 19:01 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 18:57 Puosu wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:56 Shikyo wrote:
So he won with a creative cheesy build. Let's see if he can do it 2 more times...

jaedongs build was more cheesy than fantasys that game..

I completely disagree, I'm fairly certain he was going for 2 hatch muta.

if you don't count 2 hatch muta as cheese then theres no reason to count the mech build fantasy did as cheese either.

not that i think either of those builds are cheese, but there are some people who do.
Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
April 04 2009 10:02 GMT
#1068
Omg, this build is awsome!

Fantasy used it also against Luxury in this OSL..
Elena[PaiN]
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
April 04 2009 10:03 GMT
#1069
valks are so sick vs mutas, I don't see why people didn't use them before

anyone care to give me a history lesson as to why valks were considered bad?
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
April 04 2009 10:03 GMT
#1070
What drama is it from? I always wondered what gag concert was parodying
Sullifam
exkgb
Profile Joined September 2005
United States504 Posts
April 04 2009 10:03 GMT
#1071
fantasy 306apm
jaedong 385apm
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
April 04 2009 10:03 GMT
#1072
announcers: once fantasy got rid fo the mutas, he moved out right away and gained control of the center. jaedong couldn't do anything once he moved outside his base~
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
April 04 2009 10:03 GMT
#1073
Showing the part where Jaedong attacks with muta and scourge.
OGN: This was the part where JD should have sniped the valks, but he just lost mutas and scourges, didn't even hurt the SCVs, couldn't touch the Valks. This was the turning point of the game, because Fantasy seems to have predicted that Jaedong will come in to snipe his valkyries.
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Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
April 04 2009 10:03 GMT
#1074
On April 04 2009 19:02 OSWater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 19:01 Shikyo wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:57 Puosu wrote:
On April 04 2009 18:56 Shikyo wrote:
So he won with a creative cheesy build. Let's see if he can do it 2 more times...

jaedongs build was more cheesy than fantasys that game..

I completely disagree, I'm fairly certain he was going for 2 hatch muta.

if he was going 2 hatch muta there would be no hydras, looks like he was going for a 2 hatch hydra break? lol


Nononono he definitely went for 2hatch mutas, why do you think he rallied hydras to try break the supply depots at the nat + not have a lair?
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
April 04 2009 10:03 GMT
#1075
why was jaedong scared of the first tank? there werent that many rines either so he coulda killed that tank and rines and then win the game
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
April 04 2009 10:03 GMT
#1076
On April 04 2009 19:03 integral wrote:
valks are so sick vs mutas, I don't see why people didn't use them before

anyone care to give me a history lesson as to why valks were considered bad?

because they cant attack and move, thus are fairly easy to scourge.

wraiths go pew pew
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
April 04 2009 10:04 GMT
#1077
On April 04 2009 19:03 integral wrote:
valks are so sick vs mutas, I don't see why people didn't use them before

anyone care to give me a history lesson as to why valks were considered bad?

you see, valks have a female pilot thus they are inherently weaker then most units.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
April 04 2009 10:04 GMT
#1078
On April 04 2009 19:03 integral wrote:
valks are so sick vs mutas, I don't see why people didn't use them before

anyone care to give me a history lesson as to why valks were considered bad?

Low on hp, High in cost, Driven by women.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
April 04 2009 10:04 GMT
#1079
On April 04 2009 19:03 integral wrote:
valks are so sick vs mutas, I don't see why people didn't use them before

anyone care to give me a history lesson as to why valks were considered bad?


cost a ton, take a lot of tech to get to, and die to two scourge
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
berkguyyy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States151 Posts
April 04 2009 10:04 GMT
#1080
On April 04 2009 19:02 Arkqn wrote:
Omg, this build is awsome!

Fantasy used it also against Luxury in this OSL..


Funny thing is Fantasy lost pretty badly with it. Maybe that's why Jaedong didn't expect this build...
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