EPT[OSL] Grand Final - Jaedong v Fantasy - Page 142
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monstar123
United States516 Posts
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Synneby
Sweden61 Posts
On April 06 2009 16:08 latent wrote: (my favorite one thus far, perhaps because of its simplicity, is that it turns out during a game's opening it's better to send your miners to the patches on the edge of the mineral line. You end up with a 300-400 mineral advantage over an extended period of time) Okey now i have no idea what you are talking about. plz explain.. On April 06 2009 16:08 latent wrote: Lol I just watched the OSL Finals interview myself, but apparently a Korean friend of mine thought Fantasy was a bit bad-mannered for not thanking the crowd or his teammates or anyone for that matter (I don't know why but there are tons and tons of Korean international students at my uni). According to Baezzi's translation the commentator asked Fantasy to say something appreciative to his fans and the kid just brushed it off, saying he'll win next time. He didn't even look sad to me...just ticked off at Jaedong. Personally I can understand how he left, but lol... ignoring his fans like that was a little crude. Oh well, it just makes my point in another thread about how he always seems to think about his own success more meaningful. It will be interesting to see how well he does in the next Proleague season compared to the individual leagues. Im acctually a BIG fantasy fan. And i dont care at all. Why is it when it comes to starcraft EVRYBODY is so fucking easely offended. Idra states that he think polands sux compåared to USA and the ww3 is upon ous. Bisu rating jaeding as a defence 2 and ppl getting really upset. FBH rubbing a win into sviors face and now he is the most hated progamer of all time. Am i the only one that dont give a shit about these SMALL insedents. If it was football nobody would care! | ||
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latent
United States428 Posts
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
Congratulations Jaedong! | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
gotta learn when to let go and just trust, a la phil jackson/hwaseung oz coach | ||
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Ideas
United States8142 Posts
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latent
United States428 Posts
On April 07 2009 00:39 d_so wrote: oov overcoached fantasy to the loss gotta learn when to let go and just trust, a la phil jackson/hwaseung oz coach I kinda agree with this. In my experiences there's a tendency for asian adults to hover too much when given the opportunity to help. In some ways they want to enjoy success vicariously through their pupil(s). But I'm guessing the next time Fantasy reaches a final he'll much more confidently find his own way to win. | ||
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animus123
United States171 Posts
On April 07 2009 00:39 d_so wrote: oov overcoached fantasy to the loss gotta learn when to let go and just trust, a la phil jackson/hwaseung oz coach I disagree. Fantasy obviously used his own "Fantasy" build in the fifth and final set. If anything, Oov's coaching set him up for the win. He had to seal the deal with his own build though, and failed. | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
He had to seal the deal with his own build though, and failed. Failed is a strong word for what happened. He did everything he was supposed to. How could he know Jaedong had clairvoyance and would deny his Vulture-harass? Fantasy did not fail; he got beaten. He played his ass off and ran into Jaedong. There's no shame in that. This is one of those rare series where both players come out looking better. Jaedong shows his mental fortitude after coming back from 0-2, and Fantasy shows that he can tangle with the best in the business. Why is it when it comes to starcraft EVRYBODY is so fucking easely offended. Idra states that he think polands sux compåared to USA and the ww3 is upon ous. Bisu rating jaeding as a defence 2 and ppl getting really upset. FBH rubbing a win into sviors face and now he is the most hated progamer of all time. First, people are offended because every player has some fans. So naturally, those fans will be offended when a player BM's him. Honking off the Savior fanbase is probably going to cause some hatred. I think FBH can take it  Second, people are offended because BM'ing when you have nothing to back it up is just lame and makes you a poor sport. It's one thing if you're Jaedong or Bisu or someone with similar skill and you say that someone else sucks. It may be BM, but at least there's a hint of truth there. When Idra BMs, especially in games that he is losing due to his own lack of skill, I have nothing but scorn and derision for him. Third, BM in general is just unsportsman-like conduct. I've got no problem with celebrating a win vigorously. But full-on BMing your opponent is never justified; at best, it can be excused if you are truly great. And note: the truly greats almost never BM. It's usually the near-greats who do it (or the wannabes), and most of them don't. | ||
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animus123
United States171 Posts
not winning seems like failing to me. Everyone can't be a winner. My main point was to defend the coaching job. Fantasy played great and seemed very well prepared. | ||
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
On April 06 2009 23:53 latent wrote: 'insedents'? If I recall, Jay Cutler demanded a trade because his coach 'hurt his feelings'... Also, Terell Owens was just fired for his bad attitude. | ||
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ichimarugin680
United States182 Posts
Bm poeple never gets you anywhere and it will only sink u deeper the moment you get beaten like fb hero for example which in turn demoralizes u bit by bit even if u say u don't care. | ||
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xxbluejay21
United States94 Posts
On April 07 2009 06:03 NicolBolas wrote: First, people are offended because every player has some fans. So naturally, those fans will be offended when a player BM's him. Honking off the Savior fanbase is probably going to cause some hatred. I think FBH can take it Second, people are offended because BM'ing when you have nothing to back it up is just lame and makes you a poor sport. It's one thing if you're Jaedong or Bisu or someone with similar skill and you say that someone else sucks. It may be BM, but at least there's a hint of truth there. When Idra BMs, especially in games that he is losing due to his own lack of skill, I have nothing but scorn and derision for him. Third, BM in general is just unsportsman-like conduct. I've got no problem with celebrating a win vigorously. But full-on BMing your opponent is never justified; at best, it can be excused if you are truly great. And note: the truly greats almost never BM. It's usually the near-greats who do it (or the wannabes), and most of them don't. LOL why would Idra say that. He sux... Goodness he cant say anybody's better than neone cuz he sux. progamer my ass. and yeha i agree w/ u on the bm stuff | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On April 07 2009 08:00 xxbluejay21 wrote: LOL why would Idra say that. He sux... Goodness he cant say anybody's better than neone cuz he sux. progamer my ass. and yeha i agree w/ u on the bm stuff Ad hominem. | ||
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scwizard
United States1195 Posts
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BWdero
Netherlands476 Posts
On April 07 2009 09:02 scwizard wrote: It's a pity oov lost. If he had won he would have finally gotten that golden mouse :O I see what you did there. And I disagree, Fastasy is pretty good even without his coaches to help him out. See Fantasy vs Bisu for proof. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=90767 ENJOY  | ||
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BBS
Germany204 Posts
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Zinbiel
Sweden878 Posts
On April 07 2009 19:24 BBS wrote: epic games by jaedong :o I found the first 2 pretty epic by fantasy... | ||
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