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[OSL] Grand Final - Jaedong v Fantasy - Page 132

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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 04 2009 14:32 GMT
#2621
meh
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 04 2009 14:39 GMT
#2622
Jaedong! Rawr! You're a beast!
this is my quote.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 04 2009 14:43 GMT
#2623
On April 04 2009 21:06 StRyKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 21:01 Atrioc wrote:
On April 04 2009 21:00 StRyKeR wrote:
lol @ disciple

OSL produces a set of maps that are BARELY zerg favored over terran (ignoring Chupung for the hell of it) and terran players cry foul.

I guess once you're used to having maps handed to you on a silver platter, anything less is a disappointment.


honestly what the fuck

i didnt see any of these terrans complaining during Arena MSL - you know, a tournament in which the maps actually were imbalanced.



Here is Arena MSL.

Athena
TvZ: 9-3 (75%)

Collosseum
TvZ: 11-7 (61.1%)

Othello
TvZ: 22-12 (64.7%)

Tiamat
TvZ: 5-0 (100%)

Jaedong loses 0-3 to fOrGG.


Here is Batoo OSL.

Medusa
TvZ: 21-27 (43.8%)

Return of the King
TvZ: 7-8 (46.7%)

Sin Chupung-Ryeong
TvZ: 18-12 (60%)

Tears of the Moon
TvZ: 5-5 (50%)

Jaedong wins 3-2 to fantasy.

nuff said


Hahaha, looking at these stats, any Terran complaining about map imbalance should just go choke down a fat one.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 04 2009 14:46 GMT
#2624
On April 04 2009 22:57 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:o look I'm a high templar

How do you change your icon? At first I thought it was based on your postcount, but I'm still a zergling and there are people with hydra icons who have fewer posts than me.
?
brood war for life, brood war forever
Neak
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom124 Posts
April 04 2009 14:48 GMT
#2625
so any Vods up yet ?
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 04 2009 14:49 GMT
#2626
On April 04 2009 23:46 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 22:57 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:o look I'm a high templar

How do you change your icon? At first I thought it was based on your postcount, but I'm still a zergling and there are people with hydra icons who have fewer posts than me.
?


Yeah and while you're at it could I please get a Jaedong icon?
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 04 2009 14:50 GMT
#2627
On April 04 2009 23:46 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 22:57 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:o look I'm a high templar

How do you change your icon? At first I thought it was based on your postcount, but I'm still a zergling and there are people with hydra icons who have fewer posts than me.
?

Here come the flying monkeys. :<
Moderator。◕‿◕。
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 04 2009 14:51 GMT
#2628
On April 04 2009 23:46 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 22:57 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:o look I'm a high templar

How do you change your icon? At first I thought it was based on your postcount, but I'm still a zergling and there are people with hydra icons who have fewer posts than me.
?


I'm pretty sure time registered has something to do with it.
Check BuGzlToOnl's profile for more top secret information.

There's also the possibility that you've been accepted to join the Infinite Zergling club!
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
April 04 2009 14:56 GMT
#2629
On April 04 2009 23:18 MacWorld wrote:
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On April 04 2009 23:03 Jaeden wrote:
SCARAMANGA I SWEAR I~LL GIVE U ALL THE BEAR IN THE WORLD IF I SEE U
<3


That is not very friendly.

lol , my bad, I wanted to say beer, was just a little too happy ^^
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 04 2009 15:03 GMT
#2630
VODs on nevake
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 04 2009 15:19 GMT
#2631
On April 04 2009 23:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 23:46 Crunchums wrote:
On April 04 2009 22:57 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:o look I'm a high templar

How do you change your icon? At first I thought it was based on your postcount, but I'm still a zergling and there are people with hydra icons who have fewer posts than me.
?


I'm pretty sure time registered has something to do with it.
Check BuGzlToOnl's profile for more top secret information.

There's also the possibility that you've been accepted to join the Infinite Zergling club!

Ah, I didn't know join date factored into it as well. Thanks.
brood war for life, brood war forever
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 04 2009 15:22 GMT
#2632
vods are on wfbrood
http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/hanguoxingji/xingji_37285.html

(with spoiler)
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
April 04 2009 15:35 GMT
#2633
jesus 0-2 to 3-2, sick play
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 04 2009 15:42 GMT
#2634
Man, fantasy at 3-2 for two consecutive finals. Maybe if FBH keeps sucking, Khan will pick fantasy up...

If I hadn't been cheering for him, that would be funnier...
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 04 2009 15:53 GMT
#2635
How the heck did Fantasy become the newest silver surfer?
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 04 2009 15:56 GMT
#2636
On April 05 2009 00:19 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 23:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On April 04 2009 23:46 Crunchums wrote:
On April 04 2009 22:57 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:o look I'm a high templar

How do you change your icon? At first I thought it was based on your postcount, but I'm still a zergling and there are people with hydra icons who have fewer posts than me.
?


I'm pretty sure time registered has something to do with it.
Check BuGzlToOnl's profile for more top secret information.

There's also the possibility that you've been accepted to join the Infinite Zergling club!

Ah, I didn't know join date factored into it as well. Thanks.

You can't be far off though. When you get your Hydralisk write down the date so we can crack the code.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
April 04 2009 16:04 GMT
#2637
On April 04 2009 21:37 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2009 21:26 Letmelose wrote:
On April 04 2009 21:10 disciple wrote:
On April 04 2009 21:00 StRyKeR wrote:
lol @ disciple

OSL produces a set of maps that are BARELY zerg favored over terran (ignoring Chupung for the hell of it) and terran players cry foul.

I guess once you're used to having maps handed to you on a silver platter, anything less is a disappointment.

my problem is not the zvt, its rather the zvp. This was the most in-your-face pool ever for the toss so far. After all JD got to play his zvt games in the finals and you cant say he abused it someway. Yes, maybe it was about time for zerg to have decent maps for all MUs, but if you look it on larger scale, I think you will see that JD had easy time winning this OSL, it was more or less like bisu's last MSL where got the title for trashing every toss alive and beating fbh like a dead horse. I want to finally have a tournament where no race is in disadvantage from the very beginning, thats all.


Clubday MSL

TvZ: 5-7
ZvP: 1-6
PvT: 20-9
23 PvP matches, compared to 12 TvT and 3 ZvZ matches.

Batoo OSL

TvZ: 16-17
ZvP: 24-20
PvT: 16-18
13 TvT matches, compared to 8 ZvZ and 5 PvP matches.

Quite clearly, Clubday MSL was obviously protoss friendly. Batoo OSL was more terran friendly, rather than zerg friendly. Just because protoss had a hard time in general, doesn't mean Jaedong had a free ride. Bisu was way more fortunate than Jaedong with his map pools.

protoss scored many wins because overall many toss players had great season. Medusa is not that ZvP balanced for example, its just bisu winning a dozen of games there to equalize the stats, thats why the ogn commentators call it Taekdusa. Like artosis' nostalgia analysis, toss players were just better in general , so that the maps looked even more imba. Meh... its absolutely useless to talk about this anyway, but before the finals the only game JD had to work for his money was the one vs Stork on RoTK, besides that it was a zvz practice session and zvp newbie bashing on tears...
Dont get me wrong, JD was clearly the best player in this league and he totally deserved his pin. I remember Plexa calling this OSL "bisu's destiny" but looking back, I can say it was JD's destiny instead. Everything worked out perfectly for him till the very end, even the factors, which were not under his impact


Your fanboyism is strong. Before, you blamed the maps. Now that you see that the maps were actually not very Zerg favoring at all, you now say that Jaedong's opponents were easy.

Well Bisu vs. Fantasy should have been a walkover, considering Bisu's insane PvT lately and his all-kill in the Race Wars. True, you can argue that Jaedong had an easier path than others, but do you think any other Zerg would have won this Starleague given the same opponents? I think not.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
April 04 2009 16:10 GMT
#2638
woot JD!

OP predictions were correct o_O
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
April 04 2009 16:16 GMT
#2639
WOW
a)that was some freaky, psychic predictions
b)Jaedong...........i'm speechless..................
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 04 2009 16:20 GMT
#2640
YAY!
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