EPTEDIT: Jaedong's 63% weakest MU is definitely inside the requirements for bonjwa, he just needs to win like this for 6 months longer. Maybe get a couple more titles and so on.
[OSL] Semifinal 2 by.hero vs. n.Die_Jaedong - Page 24
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
EDIT: Jaedong's 63% weakest MU is definitely inside the requirements for bonjwa, he just needs to win like this for 6 months longer. Maybe get a couple more titles and so on. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
 Also, this. On March 27 2009 23:40 Jaksiel wrote: I laugh at anyone who actually thought hero had any chance at all of taking this. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
On March 28 2009 00:47 JWD wrote: Bisu loses one game to HoeJJa and an OSL semifinal series, and now his "dominance is gone"? Bisu will still be a force next SC season. I don't think you understand the meaning if the term Bonjwa...there can be no such thing as a "ZvZ bonjwa" because dominance over all three races is an inextricable component of the definition of "bonjwa". lulz, getting beaten by HoeJJa, which is pretty much the reason SKT1 lost to KTF to be honest, and then getting 3-0'd not by flash or jaedong but by fantasy of all people is pretty big. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On March 28 2009 00:51 Shikyo wrote: Well, nearly all the bonjwa's had weak match-ups... Boxer's TvP, iloveoov's TvT to an extent, Savior's ZvZ... I can't recall Nada having any specific weak MU, though. EDIT: Jaedong's 63% weakest MU is definitely inside the requirements for bonjwa, he just needs to win like this for 6 months longer. Maybe get a couple more titles and so on. i really wish they would make a news post about this there is no such thing as a requirement for being bonjwa it does not mean you won 3 msls and an osl it does not mean you have a certain winrate it means the dominant player at any given time. if you're raping everyone else in the ass you're the bonjwa. if you're not you arent. you cant call jaedong a heavy favorite over bisu or flash and hes not a sure win on anyone else in the top 10. hes really fucking good, probably the best right now, but there are other people who are also so good that you cant call him dominant. | ||
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NiTenIchiRyu
United Kingdom273 Posts
On March 28 2009 01:04 Fr33t wrote: lulz, getting beaten by HoeJJa, which is pretty much the reason SKT1 lost to KTF to be honest, and then getting 3-0'd not by flash or jaedong but by fantasy of all people is pretty big. + that cursed game 5 + losing to Savior and ZerO in the MSL group stage + his shitty performance in the ongoing OGN race tournament I will go ahead and say that Bisu won't win anything next season as well. He missed his chance. | ||
disciple
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konadora
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Deleted User 31060
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86 misguided souls... | ||
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sh02hp0869
Sweden460 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 28 2009 01:06 disciple wrote: well, thats the best thing about JD, his longest slump lasted 2 weeks or so, he is so consistent. His slumps are extremely depressing to watch though. They always happened against Terran players too. The short span of ZvTs before the semifinals against Hwasin in the MSL were so frustrating. | ||
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
On March 28 2009 00:51 Shikyo wrote: Well, nearly all the bonjwa's had weak match-ups... Boxer's TvP, iloveoov's TvT to an extent, Savior's ZvZ... I can't recall Nada having any specific weak MU, though. EDIT: Jaedong's 63% weakest MU is definitely inside the requirements for bonjwa, he just needs to win like this for 6 months longer. Maybe get a couple more titles and so on. Besides Jaedong Savior had the best ZvZ. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On March 28 2009 01:28 Sunyveil wrote: 86 misguided souls... Sometimes these souls laugh the loudest. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7230 Posts
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
Besides, if we agree that Jaedong (or Flash, or Bisu) is the best player out there, what does it matter if he's a bonjwa or not? On March 28 2009 01:07 konadora wrote: You can only feel bonjwa. You can't really define bonjwa other than calling him 'the guy who fucks up map balance towards his favor and makes a comeback from impossible games infinite times' That doesn't seem like a good definition, especially considering Jaedong and Flash and their performance on maps like Katrina. Both fit that perfectly. More on topic, I too find it hard to believe anyone seriously thought by.hero had a chance in this series (no offense Plexa). | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
On March 28 2009 01:05 IdrA wrote:you cant call jaedong a heavy favorite over bisu or flash and hes not a sure win on anyone else in the top 10. I understand the greater point, but I would call JD a sure win in any ZvZ (assuming we're talking about a series). | ||
EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
Bisu loses one game to HoeJJa and an OSL semifinal series, and now his "dominance is gone"? Bisu will still be a force next SC season. There's a difference between "being a force" and "being dominant". Bisu is no longer the latter. He is a powerful mortal, but he is clearly mortal. And when you lose an OSL semifinal 3-0, while playing like crap the whole time, yes, your "dominance" is gone. It's not like those were 3 close, nail-biting games; Stork showed better skill vs. Jangbi than Bisu vs. Fantasy. | ||
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scwizard
United States1195 Posts
All you people wouldn't be talking so much about bonjwaness if the potential wasn't there. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Well, he's broken my mind and the rule of more luck in ZvZ. If the rule doesn't apply to him it no longer makes it a rule. This is among the most amazing things ever to be seen in progaming. | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On March 27 2009 19:40 lolaloc wrote: I bet CJ are huddling right now and talking about several ways to snipe JD Do you honestly think that CJ Entus's team has discussed anything else? Sniping Jaedong is their only winning strategy, especially since he's up first. | ||
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. his dominance is gone, and he barely got anything during his period. Jaedong, on the other hand, is starting to look unbeatable. If he get a couple OSL and a MSL, he would achieve what Bisu could not 
