EPTwell jangbi's pvz isn't crash hot while luxury's is 'ok'
[MSL] Lost Saga Quarterfinal B - Page 33
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GTR
51509 Posts
well jangbi's pvz isn't crash hot while luxury's is 'ok' | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
With his current level of play, no. But I think lux definitely has what it takes to bring his zvp to a higher level for the finals. There's a history of players redefining their weak mu (like jd vs stork) to win finals. Lux is capable of this. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:40 Kot wrote: and luxury accounts for 2, i don't see how you could possibly say zero is the favorite against luxury. I never said favorite, please stop drawing false assumptions because I don't like Luxury and you do? What I'm saying is that Luxury certainly does not have a free MSL final ride like it has been implied here, ZerO is a hell of a lot better then people give him credit for. ZerO's ZvZ wins have been very recent and he's been on a complete tear, Luxury however has not. ZerO is not the favorite but I certainly wouldn't consider Luxury one either. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27156 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:42 Malinor wrote: Exactly what I was thinking. The position of the Den was so obvious. But after all, we always see the whole map, easy for us to judge  Scouting wins games, one additional proof to this rule. Well, he dropped that den there when the first scv was scouting from the ramp down. Maybe Leta just saw the dot on the mini map and could't click it. That is why he sent the second scout down, and Lux crossed him up. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:41 LosingID8 wrote: haha even luxury knows that he played well today. he can't stop smiling. anyway, i think any two from the combination of stork/forgg/jangbi/nada are stronger contenders than zero/luxury. i'm interested in seeing how that side of the bracket turns out. Hell no Luxury is as strong as any other contander . Terran players at their best only have 50 % chance against him and he has showed promise vs protoss after he beat Kal twise and all - killed samsung khan and 5 pooled Bisu  . I fear for his match against Zero thought ZvZ is such an unforgiving MU  . | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:40 GinNtoniC wrote: I do agree Luxury is far more interesting to watch, but Leta being overhyped? I don't know man, he's played some friggin insane games these past few months  Then again, he does seem to get nervous in stage in these tournaments. At least some of his play looked... off at times today.If anything, I actually think Luxury just read Leta through and through in game 4 and 5. OK, I admit I'm really being biased against him. But it was all the hype on TL.net, like he would bring a new age for Terran or something. And then the fact that he advanced by beating Flash with a cheese build was the last straw. So it seems quite fitting that he would get eliminated from both leagues on consecutive days _just like Flash_ (who is still a far better player despite TL.net coverage of Leta). | ||
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monstar123
United States516 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10829 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:44 raga4ka wrote: Hell no Luxury is as strong as any other contander . Terran players at their best are 50 % chance and he has showed promise vs protoss after he beat Kal twise and all - killed samsung khan ... .... any TWO are stronger than the combination of ZERO/LUXURY | ||
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Malinor
Germany4732 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:43 Manifesto7 wrote: Well, he dropped that den there when the first scv was scouting from the ramp down. Maybe Leta just saw the dot on the mini map and could't click it. That is why he sent the second scout down, and Lux crossed him up. Ok, I must have missed that. My stream was really laggy sometimes. But anyway, Lux played really good starcraft in game 4 and 5, he deserves it. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:44 raga4ka wrote: Hell no Luxury is as strong as any other contander . Terran players at their best only have 50 % chance against him and he has showed promise vs protoss after he beat Kal twise and all - killed samsung khan and 5 pooled Bisu .I dunno, Flash and Hwasin at their best I would put at greater than 1-1 odds of beating Luxury. Every other Terran would fall to him though quite easily. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I'd say that Luxury could very well be the favorite against Jangbi in a Bo5, depending on which map gets played twice. Have you seen his macro in recent ZvPs... in his last game against Jangbi, for example? It's pretty insane. | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:42 Malinor wrote: Exactly what I was thinking. The position of the Den was so obvious. But after all, we always see the whole map, easy for us to judge Scouting wins games, one additional proof to this rule. you are underestimating the psychological pressure in such a situation on stage... leta wanted to get some info SOO badly to secure a tiny advantage and win that MU, so Lux threw him a bone and he fell for it. Smart move by Lux abusing his opponents insecureness. | ||
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:42 LosingID8 wrote: you're ignoring the metagame in a best of 5 series. I dont think Leta could have been more prepared considering luxury has flash to train. And please Leta can look as scary as he wants in PL/WL but individual leagues dont work that way, experience and personal motivation are simply different just look at by.hero/flash/stork/hwasin/best/forgg if you know what i mean. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:45 LosingID8 wrote: .... any TWO are stronger than the combination of ZERO/LUXURY Thats because zero isn't as solid as the other players in this MSL . Well that doesn't really matter because they are not playing 2v2 . | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:50 raga4ka wrote: Thats because zero isn't as solid as the other players in this MSL . Well that doesn't really matter because they are not playing 2v2 .You'll be eating your socks when Zero wins the MSL ;D | ||
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Lhyviathan
Australia975 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:42 GTR wrote: well jangbi's pvz isn't crash hot while luxury's is 'ok' ....what? maybe you should do some research because jangbi's PvZ is probably the best around right now, excluding when Kal plays well | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:51 Shikyo wrote: You'll be eating your socks when Zero wins the MSL ;D jangbi wins this msl. its written by stork. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On February 28 2009 20:46 Jayme wrote: I dunno, Flash and Hwasin at their best I would put at greater than 1-1 odds of beating Luxury. Every other Terran would fall to him though quite easily. Well Flash was looking pretty unstopable everywhere and then Luxury took him out in Ever OSL 2008 ... Hwasin chokes most of the times so i don't know if he can bring his best for a series . | ||
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