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Sandster
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United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 11:04:13
March 05 2009 11:02 GMT
#741
EDIT: Crap wrong thread. My bad >.<
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
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March 05 2009 16:00 GMT
#742
On March 01 2009 14:00 mog87 wrote:
Yea hes 8-2 in his last zvp, but 8 of them were played over a month ago. Beating Stork...isnt exactly the most telling of his zvp skills, and 5 pooling Bisu..meh. His ZvP still isnt great and that fact remains...compounding those other issues makes Jangbi the favorite, no one is saying luxury has 0% chance.


And please enlighten me, because I suck at this game, how this godly player luxury was able to 5 pool an obviously early mech build...because zerg starts his pool at 5, at which point terran hasnt even a barracks. I dunno sounds like you are giving him too credit..especially for a 5 pool. And I dont see how gimmicky builds make one more deserving to advance then a straight up player. Personally, I think if you fool someone, then clearly they can lose, but if you can dictate the game regardless of the opponents awareness then you are more likely to win, as you cant fool the opponent every time. Therefore solid play is more important in the long run.

Mech builds are very popular on Destination, and are arguably more powerful on Destination than bio builds due to characteristics of the map. Leta has also beaten down Luxury on Destination twice before, both times using tricky wraith builds. He's also used tricky builds vs. different zerg players on Destination as well, so it isn't really a far stretch to say that Luxury was expecting Leta to use some kind of fast tech build in the form of mech or wraiths.

Leta is arguably the more "gimmicky" player when it comes to TvZ than Luxury in ZvT anyway.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
March 06 2009 03:37 GMT
#743
On March 06 2009 01:00 koreasilver wrote:
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On March 01 2009 14:00 mog87 wrote:
Yea hes 8-2 in his last zvp, but 8 of them were played over a month ago. Beating Stork...isnt exactly the most telling of his zvp skills, and 5 pooling Bisu..meh. His ZvP still isnt great and that fact remains...compounding those other issues makes Jangbi the favorite, no one is saying luxury has 0% chance.


And please enlighten me, because I suck at this game, how this godly player luxury was able to 5 pool an obviously early mech build...because zerg starts his pool at 5, at which point terran hasnt even a barracks. I dunno sounds like you are giving him too credit..especially for a 5 pool. And I dont see how gimmicky builds make one more deserving to advance then a straight up player. Personally, I think if you fool someone, then clearly they can lose, but if you can dictate the game regardless of the opponents awareness then you are more likely to win, as you cant fool the opponent every time. Therefore solid play is more important in the long run.

Mech builds are very popular on Destination, and are arguably more powerful on Destination than bio builds due to characteristics of the map. Leta has also beaten down Luxury on Destination twice before, both times using tricky wraith builds. He's also used tricky builds vs. different zerg players on Destination as well, so it isn't really a far stretch to say that Luxury was expecting Leta to use some kind of fast tech build in the form of mech or wraiths.

Leta is arguably the more "gimmicky" player when it comes to TvZ than Luxury in ZvT anyway.


Yea, I guess, but I was responding the notion proposed by an earlier poster that because luxury did these types of builds that he deserves to advance over Zero, I think leta is pretty gimmicky as well. And as for the 5 pool that very may well have been the case, but would a 5 pool mostly like have fucked him up if he was was playing standard as well, seems more like he was taking a risk thinking either I win up front or lose up front as opposed to lose later on.

Either way the original point still stands the most people would have jangbi as the fav.
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